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| Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224604 is a reply to message #224602] |
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| msgtpain wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 22:18 |
| j_ball430 wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 22:07 |
If you voted "yes", I hope you voted because of what he did on these forums and strictly on these forums. If you voted "yes" because you think he's a bad person, and you DON'T know him outside of the forums... I hope you realize that you're a tool.
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God damnit, NO, I didn't realize that I would be a tool if I did that...
Shit, and I've already voted.. but your opinion of me matters SO FUCKING MUCH, I wish I could go back in time and change what I've done..
How will I sleep tonight, knowing that you think I'm a tool because of what I think.
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Har har. I honestly don't give a fuck what anybody voted. I just decided to state the stupidity of voting "yes" if you hate him and have no actual basis on it besides what stupid shit he's done on a *gasp* online forum.
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| Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224607 is a reply to message #224561] |
Wed, 04 October 2006 19:24 |
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Well, I voted because I think he's a dick.. Here, on other forums, in the game, in IRC, in Private messages, etc..
But mostly, because he bought porn and let his cats starve.. that's just unforgivable.
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| Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224613 is a reply to message #224561] |
Wed, 04 October 2006 19:36 |
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Abstain. I don't tend to keep up with who's pissing who off at any given time. ACK has been the community's most controversial member for years now, but I've never been close enough to any of the flame wars to really have an opinion either way (or even to know who started what, for that matter). And, honestly, I just don't give enough of a shit to go reading through however many dozens of pages of people bitching at each other to find the who's and the how's of why this all started.
Remember, kiddies: voting for/against a ban because you like/don't like someone is petty and stupid. Don't bother voting unless you actually know (and care) what the fuck is going on.
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| Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224615 is a reply to message #224561] |
Wed, 04 October 2006 19:49 |
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you know what, flame me all you want but, personally, i dont see ACK as being an overly bad guy, sure a few quirks, but who doesnt have em, his are just a bit more..... obvious, than others'. i know for a fact at least a few ppl are gonna flip out, but you know what, i dont give a damn.  so what, he told a lie or two, made a few mistakes, no one is perfect. i vote NO 
EDIT: BTW, just for you peeps wonderin, my vote made it 50%/50%
EDIT2: Kamuix, your gonna hate me, and you probobly dont even remember me, but if i still happen to be a mod on your server, you might as well delete me from modlist, not cuz of this, but cuz i barely play anymore as is, and when i do play, i got friends i like to play with, so sry.
EDIT3: go to his profile, click on webpage, and go down to where it says member of:... Garfieldandfriends, love, dagamerz, nature club, doesnt seem very "bad" to me.
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| Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224631 is a reply to message #224561] |
Wed, 04 October 2006 20:14 |
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EDIT2: Kamuix, your gonna hate me, and you probobly dont even remember me, but if i still happen to be a mod on your server, you might as well delete me from modlist, not cuz of this, but cuz i barely play anymore as is, and when i do play, i got friends i like to play with, so sry.
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No you are not still on the mod list and have not been for a long time.
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| Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224642 is a reply to message #224561] |
Wed, 04 October 2006 21:40 |
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I would have to agree with the statement about if you dont know whats going on blah blha blha dont post. Theres to many people in this community that go off what Crimson or other people think. You need to think for yourself for a change. Develop your own opinions.
If you dont know why this poll has come up, dont post, dont vote.
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| Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224647 is a reply to message #224561] |
Wed, 04 October 2006 22:23 |
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Let him be, I find his posts quite interesting. And yes, sometimes entertaining.
Seriously people how can you fight a war on terrorism with all of your borders wide open!
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| Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224666 is a reply to message #224630] |
Thu, 05 October 2006 00:48 |
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| warranto wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 22:11 |
For someone who claims not to care, he sure is arguing a lot.
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I guess you missed the "Bash on Crimmy" thread, where a good dozen people who tried phenomenally hard to make it perfectly clear they don't care about something posted a good hundred posts each to that effect.
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| Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224667 is a reply to message #224561] |
Thu, 05 October 2006 00:50 |
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Voted no by the way... if Aircraftkiller hadn't come to me about the Crimson stuff, I think it goes without saying this vote wouldn't have been posed.
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| Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224688 is a reply to message #224561] |
Thu, 05 October 2006 02:54 |
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Yea i voted no as well, i could care less about blogs and that jazz for i don't read them anyways. Aside from that he is a vital part to the community as a whole and just banning him for his attitude shouldn't be done. He has been around since the birth of renegade and basically this forum even. He has supplied alot of help, reguardless of his way of speaking his mind always.
I think he has every right to stay, i am another that comes here for that edge, we have alot of different personalities here, and thats what makes it enjoyable. Either way i am not at any level to make the decision, so i guess i will sit back down : 
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| Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224692 is a reply to message #224561] |
Thu, 05 October 2006 03:19 |
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I voted no. Aircraftkiller did flame me the few times I did actually play with him and that would have been a long time ago, except, I didn't give a shit. There have been a LOT of people that's talked shit, and I still don't give a shit what they say. As far as I know, he's only truly bad-mouthed mod-makers and I'd have to say a lot of it would have merit to saying the work is bad. When you have "ultra aow" where you get massive loads of points, you easily get 1000 dollar characters and can afford anything you want at any given time. You change the game to make it easier for people, when it's already pretty damn easy. Or stupid mods like having all the characters have shotguns. It's just stupid. I'm not going to say all of his attacks had merit, but some did, and in some of the cases the people modding don't only did it on their spare time. So if his opinion means so little, ignore his posts if you're a modder, and let that be the end of it.
I still find it ironic that the reason ack would be banned, is not because he flamed, but the fact that instead of discrediting spoony, he told the truth, and that's what may/may not lead to him getting banned. Perhaps this all would have been avoided if it was just brought up right away.
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| Matix wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 20:47 |
Why say we have hatred against you, if you voted yourself out? Personally, no one gives a shit about you, you could die right now, no one would care about you except your beloved family & friends. As "Moee" has mentioned, behind all is a good person, but behind aircraftkiller, is really an asscrackfiller. G?g
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Who the fuck are you to judge him? You're like, what, 14? Not only that, but you stole other people's work and said it was your own, apparently. You ran your own server, and you CHEATED in it(which, granted you're apparently not alone in this, but it's still a shitty thing to do) Not only that, but when bbence got caught cheating by doubling his firing rate with ramjet, what did you do? Oh yeah, NOTHING. Maybe everyone should go into your server with cheats on, because apparently moderators can cheat at will? Of course, that would mean that you'd have less of an advantage while playing, and that would suck. Because you, for some reason, place yourself above other people who just want to have fun, and so you cheat. How about you intend to grow up, and be mature? It comes with responsibility of owning something. As for no one caring about him, the same could be said for pretty much damned everybody if they haven't even MET the person. I don't give a shit about you and that's expected. If ack *did* happen to pass, at least he's done something for the community, what little or a lot that may be to anyone's opinion. Can't exactly say the same for you now, can we, cheater?
Oh, i won't even touch on the fact that you pretend to be other people :\
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