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Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224859 is a reply to message #224561] Thu, 05 October 2006 15:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is this the best half of you can come up with? "He's been an asshole on these forums." WOW, who gives a fuck? I don't see how being a prick is anything worthy of a ban. He offended you, well get over it. If you're that easily offended, the Internet is not for you.

If you actually have a legit reason as to why Aircraftkiller should be banned, I'm obviously not talking to you, so don't bother stating that you have an actual reason besides his assholish actions on these forums.


Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224863 is a reply to message #224859] Thu, 05 October 2006 15:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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j_ball430 wrote on Thu, 05 October 2006 18:33

Is this the best half of you can come up with? "He's been an asshole on these forums." WOW, who gives a fuck? I don't see how being a prick is anything worthy of a ban. He offended you, well get over it. If you're that easily offended, the Internet is not for you.

If you actually have a legit reason as to why Aircraftkiller should be banned, I'm obviously not talking to you, so don't bother stating that you have an actual reason besides his assholish actions on these forums.


Nicely put j_ball430.

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Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224880 is a reply to message #224561] Thu, 05 October 2006 16:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Voted "yes".
For my reasons, "Search" is your friend Razz


Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224882 is a reply to message #224880] Thu, 05 October 2006 16:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mad Ivan wrote on Thu, 05 October 2006 19:35

Voted "yes".
For my reasons, "Search" is your friend Razz


You're just as stupid as the17doctor Big Ups


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Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224896 is a reply to message #224561] Thu, 05 October 2006 17:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Please stop calling everyone stupid. As for the vote, I agree so what if he flamed you, you dont even know the guy so just ignore him and get on with your life. I didnt vote as I am indifferent if he leaves or stays. Sarcasm

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Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224897 is a reply to message #224561] Thu, 05 October 2006 17:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Пожалуйста, не кормите Троллей. http://www.renegadeforums.com/images/message_icons/icon13.gif

Voted yes.
Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224902 is a reply to message #224561] Thu, 05 October 2006 18:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I voted yes.

I tried to like ack. I always said, he has done a fair bit for this community, made some good maps, developed the most successful mod for this game etc.
But he is always putting crap on people. In the ways of a grammar nazi, putting people's work down, leaking mods. He's a fire starter.
Most of all, he says he hates this game. Then why is he here? Why does he continue to linger here, put crap on a great game most of us love, put people down, and spread hatred and shit around the community.
To me, he should just piss off.

To all those that are his friends or are close to ack. Be warned and be wary. I thought ack and crimmy were close friends too, she always gave him the benefit of the doubt, even put him above the communities best interests sometimes. Well i was obviously wrong. For someone to do all of this to a close friend, then there is the chance he may do it again. Who knows how many of you he has IRC conversations saved.

Anyway, if ack claims he doesnt care about this place. He wont really give a shit if he doesn't come back.

My two cents.

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Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224904 is a reply to message #224897] Thu, 05 October 2006 18:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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но почему? Я люблю кормить, напевает.
Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224905 is a reply to message #224904] Thu, 05 October 2006 18:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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AmunRa wrote on Thu, 05 October 2006 20:20

но почему? Я люблю кормить, напевает.


Острокомедийно! Я противоречу.

However, I must ask. Is this simply a ban from the Public forums, or a ban from NS servers, NS forums, etc? Also, doesn't he hold moderator status in both this forum and the n00bstories forum? Just want to make sure what I'm voting for.
Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224906 is a reply to message #224902] Thu, 05 October 2006 19:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sterps wrote on Thu, 05 October 2006 20:13

To all those that are his friends or are close to ack. Be warned and be wary. I thought ack and crimmy were close friends too, she always gave him the benefit of the doubt, even put him above the communities best interests sometimes. Well i was obviously wrong. For someone to do all of this to a close friend, then there is the chance he may do it again. Who knows how many of you he has IRC conversations saved.

Aircraftkiller didn't do anything to Crimson. Crimson's at fault here, but she's too arrogant to face that, so she's spent the last couple of weeks trying to make someone else the bad guy - myself, Aircraftkiller, etc. And apparently, some people are gullible enough to swallow it.


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Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224907 is a reply to message #224561] Thu, 05 October 2006 19:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I removed the last remnant of his power in NS (op in IRC) at the first hint of his betrayal. He hasn't been back by choice and I'm fine with that.

I'm the bawss.
Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224908 is a reply to message #224906] Thu, 05 October 2006 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MaidenTy1 wrote on Thu, 05 October 2006 19:13

Aircraftkiller didn't do anything to Crimson. Crimson's at fault here, but she's too arrogant to face that, so she's spent the last couple of weeks trying to make someone else the bad guy - myself, Aircraftkiller, etc. And apparently, some people are gullible enough to swallow it.


Holding the most private details of my life that I trusted to a friend hostage and blackmailing me with them is CERTAINLY under the "anything" category. Blazer outlined a number of things that those logs contain that should not get out.

It's very obvious that if anyone else gave him a password to something, their address, phone number, picture, complained about their personal life, or anything else that they considered private information, they should be shitting themselves right now.


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Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224919 is a reply to message #224561] Thu, 05 October 2006 20:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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if the most private things in your life are cw versus you then you're fucking pathetic... because that's all i threatened to expose, as well as anything else you did that wronged this community

shall i bring out the e-mails we made so you'll stop lying to cover your ass?

i never once threatened to give out any of your personal information... because i don't have it and i wouldn't give a shit about it to begin with. so why bother? the only thing i was interested in was justice and it's not served by sinking down to the shit level you're at

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Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224926 is a reply to message #224561] Thu, 05 October 2006 22:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Blazer wrote on Thu, 05 October 2006 17:25

Uhh, there are over 2000 logs, do you really think there is no personal information contained in them?

Just off the top of my head, I imagine the logs contain such juicy tidbits like:

1. Renguard information (protocol specs, passwords, etc)
2. Crimsons family life (serious private things)
3. Crimsons love life (I'm sure she at least talked to him about me)
4. Passwords to who knows what (Ack was a member of BHS and was trusted with lots of private information)
5. Info on acks private life

Thats just the tip of the iceberg. I'm sure that even Crimson herself cannot imagine the things the could be contained in over 2000 logs of private conversations. Uploading those to "the internet" was a really shitty thing to do, if not outright illegal.



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Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224928 is a reply to message #224561] Thu, 05 October 2006 22:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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maybe you should read where i said i sift through them before i do anything with them? Sarcasm

but of course you just feed off what blazer tells you and vice versa

try thinking for yourself
Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224931 is a reply to message #224561] Thu, 05 October 2006 23:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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To quote j_ball430,

j_ball430 wrote on Thu, 05 October 2006 20:31

Oh, correction on the "less than half" number. I looked in the zip file, and the number of logs... about 145. That's all...


That 2000 went down far.


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Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224935 is a reply to message #224561] Thu, 05 October 2006 23:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i doubt there are 2,000 conversations between her and i. realistically speaking it's more like 800 at most. probably less.

for being a friend she sure didn't talk much over four years. i suppose so long as i didn't bite her for the shit she pulled, it didn't matter what i did since i had already put her into a position of power.
Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224936 is a reply to message #224561] Thu, 05 October 2006 23:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What position of power did you put her in? I think you need to polish your crystals.
Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224937 is a reply to message #224561] Thu, 05 October 2006 23:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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hmm... let's see

she was a nobody before i started promoting her. talking about how good she was in-game. how much of a team player she was. getting people to rally around her.

then suddenly she's got a new site... who else but me stands by her when she creates it? maybe someone else. i can't remember. i don't care that much anymore

as far as i'm concerned it doesn't take much to realize that i put her where she is now, and there's nothing i can do about her except expose the shit she's done.

sure, maybe i'm a "nobody" too.. but at that point i had a massive amount of influence in C&C's community and it didn't take much to get people to do what i wanted. looking back now it was all a waste. and so was supporting her.

i wonder where she'd be now if i hadn't
Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224938 is a reply to message #224561] Thu, 05 October 2006 23:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey, turn off your bighead cheat.

I'm the bawss.
Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224943 is a reply to message #224906] Fri, 06 October 2006 00:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MaidenTy1 wrote on Fri, 06 October 2006 12:13

sterps wrote on Thu, 05 October 2006 20:13

To all those that are his friends or are close to ack. Be warned and be wary. I thought ack and crimmy were close friends too, she always gave him the benefit of the doubt, even put him above the communities best interests sometimes. Well i was obviously wrong. For someone to do all of this to a close friend, then there is the chance he may do it again. Who knows how many of you he has IRC conversations saved.

Aircraftkiller didn't do anything to Crimson. Crimson's at fault here, but she's too arrogant to face that, so she's spent the last couple of weeks trying to make someone else the bad guy - myself, Aircraftkiller, etc. And apparently, some people are gullible enough to swallow it.


So your saying that ack abusing people, putting their work down, leaking mods, creating tensions in the community is not wrong? If you dont think its wrong, then how can you expect people to believe what you say. Regardless, i make my own decisions and perceptions on topics. On the one your talking about, i have made my decisions, and from the way you have put your last post, it justifies my decision, and im glad. Calling someone gullible for having their own opinion on a matter is quite childish and aggressive.

Grow up...
Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224945 is a reply to message #224943] Fri, 06 October 2006 00:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sterps wrote on Fri, 06 October 2006 02:26

So your saying that ack abusing people, putting their work down, leaking mods, creating tensions in the community is not wrong? If you dont think its wrong, then how can you expect people to believe what you say. Regardless, i make my own decisions and perceptions on topics. On the one your talking about, i have made my decisions, and from the way you have put your last post, it justifies my decision, and im glad. Calling someone gullible for having their own opinion on a matter is quite childish and aggressive.

Grow up...


Easy, tiger. Here's the post I was referring to.

sterps wrote:

To all those that are his friends or are close to ack. Be warned and be wary. I thought ack and crimmy were close friends too, she always gave him the benefit of the doubt, even put him above the communities best interests sometimes. Well i was obviously wrong. For someone to do all of this to a close friend, then there is the chance he may do it again. Who knows how many of you he has IRC conversations saved.

See, you're totally changing the subject with your second reply, because this...
sterps wrote:

ack abusing people, putting their work down, leaking mods, creating tensions in the community

...isn't something Aircraftkiller did to Crimson.


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Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224948 is a reply to message #224882] Fri, 06 October 2006 02:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Coolrock wrote on Fri, 06 October 2006 02:40

Mad Ivan wrote on Thu, 05 October 2006 19:35

Voted "yes".
For my reasons, "Search" is your friend Razz


You're just as stupid as the17doctor Big Ups


Coolrock, for me he was an awesome dood back in the WW days.

But the "cats" accident, his constant attack on mod newbies, the entire anti-reborn crap, abusing Crimson's trust and spaming the forums with crap, attacking people. And thats just a small part of why i think that he should be banned.

For me, Renegade is the last C&C Game by WestWood.
I love the game, i enjoy visiting these forums, i enjoy reading people's oppinion on anything thats happening and i enjoy helping people even with the smallest things.

What i DONT enjoy is reading crap, because the people producing it do it just because "they can".

That is why, because of his past actions, I think that Aircraftkiller should be banned from this forum.

Coolrock, that is why I think that Ack should be banned.
I don't understand what stupid you find about that. Just look around the other C&C Websites and point me to a forum where people flame eachother and DONT get banned.


Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224954 is a reply to message #224882] Fri, 06 October 2006 04:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Coolrock wrote on Fri, 06 October 2006 00:40

Mad Ivan wrote on Thu, 05 October 2006 19:35

Voted "yes".
For my reasons, "Search" is your friend Razz


You're just as stupid as the17doctor Big Ups


it appears that you're the idiot who thinks that peoples' differing opinions are stupid. get some perspective; i'll vote what i want to vote Wink


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Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) [message #224956 is a reply to message #224561] Fri, 06 October 2006 04:32 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Crimson is where she is now from her own hard work, her dedication, and support for others (the list would go on but I would not want Crimson to catch the big-head hack Razz). Not because AircraftKiller said she was a good team player in a few games of renegade. Even if her position was a direct promotion of AircraftKiller (which I doubt it was), eventually you have to prove that you've got the goods; Crimson has done that 10 times over.


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