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Re: RenGuard Lite - Any chance of seeing something like this? [message #177784 is a reply to message #177375] Thu, 03 November 2005 22:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RenGuard startup is SLOW, and it gets annoying. Loading the GUI, webpage and connecting to the servers all at the same time slows the startup down a fair bit.

The background, title banner and sidebar graphics could just be part of the program, so all that needs to be downloaded each startup is TEXT (way faster).

Having it connect to servers AFTER Renegade is clicked would be better, or you could delay it by a few seconds to give the program a chance to load. Watching this white box thing slowly load it's controls and border is annoying.

RG being gay:
index.php?t=getfile&id=406&private=0

Having it connect AFTER you click means you could have a textbox to change the nick to login with if you need to.

And the whole window is too big.

RG sexified:
index.php?t=getfile&id=407&private=0
And when it's connected it minimizes and Renegade opens.

We want a Renguard Lite! Smile
Re: RenGuard Lite - Any chance of seeing something like this? [message #177792 is a reply to message #177375] Fri, 04 November 2005 00:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I quite like the idea but i understand why

1. Not done yet in 1.03 -> remember, this was the first version that was really finished and protection was the key issue, not interface

2. Not done since then -> if noone had tried to bypass, this would already exist but there are much bigger priorities for the moment.

==> maybe after core patch 2 will be released Razz.


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Re: RenGuard Lite - Any chance of seeing something like this? [message #177794 is a reply to message #177729] Fri, 04 November 2005 01:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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light wrote on Fri, 04 November 2005 00:51

Thats exactly what I am after. Something that gives you the options, but is unobtrusive.

How does yours diaplay like that? If it is an edited .exe, has it been ok'ed by BHS, in which case, may I have a copy?


Resize window with t3h mouse.


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Re: RenGuard Lite - Any chance of seeing something like this? [message #177795 is a reply to message #177794] Fri, 04 November 2005 01:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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TD wrote on Fri, 04 November 2005 03:06

light wrote on Fri, 04 November 2005 00:51

Thats exactly what I am after. Something that gives you the options, but is unobtrusive.

How does yours diaplay like that? If it is an edited .exe, has it been ok'ed by BHS, in which case, may I have a copy?


Resize window with t3h mouse.

Won't makei t faster to load though Wink. But it takes less place indd.


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Re: RenGuard Lite - Any chance of seeing something like this? [message #177803 is a reply to message #177375] Fri, 04 November 2005 01:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I like this idea.
It's nice to see the icon in the taskbar.
But the bad thing is, usally when my game crashes. Due to overheating and the combination of Ren being instable sometimes. Let's say when you watch the score's of the teams and you press JOIN really fast. Sometimes the games crashes. And the first thing you see is the Renguard popup in the middle of the screen. Another example your game crashes ingame. And then you see it again.
Would it be possible to just make it so that you don't see this at all that it just stay minimized in tray?
If it takes to much time or effort, then it wouldn't matter a tiny bit if a light or whatever won't hapen because afterall it's to protect the people from cheaters, and the eye candy around does it really matter?.
Keep up the good work.



Offtopic:
Some time ago, a other Windows before a other format. I had GSA and RG installed. But the strange thing was it didn't display the add's in GSA and it didn't display the website in the Renguard Window.
That was probably the only time I found it ok using GSA because I just wouldn't see anything of the add's nor the pages just the things you use, GDI barack, agt, hand of nod ecta at the lobby.
I never found out how that came but it owned. Is it possible to not show the website in RG? because I read forum's/mainsite anyways.


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Re: RenGuard Lite - Any chance of seeing something like this? [message #177804 is a reply to message #177375] Fri, 04 November 2005 02:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lite also means small dimensions for me. At least, if I make it small, it doesn't look like it is loading a site and it looks like Renguard is trying to connect to Renguard, instead of loading a site along with it. Looks cooler if it is this small too.

You get the idea.


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Re: RenGuard Lite - Any chance of seeing something like this? [message #177807 is a reply to message #177375] Fri, 04 November 2005 02:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm glad to see i'm not alone in my opinion.

I can't see how hard it will be. I have done some GUI work in Java, and taking stuff out it much easier than putting stuff in. (That said, Java is not like all languages)

We can only hope BHS offer something like this.


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Re: RenGuard Lite - Any chance of seeing something like this? [message #177812 is a reply to message #177375] Fri, 04 November 2005 04:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Seeing that many people want this:

- Core Patch option removed, we can download ourself
- Options button removed
- Smaller interface
- No Site loading
- Instead, MOTD button where it said buttons
- Password and auto-run entry on the main window... (if it cant, a small, small, small option button somewhere, and a small window pops up.)

That's what many people want. But of course the release of 1.04 comes first. 1.05 could have both a normal version and lite version. ( I think, if we have a lite version, normal version would be obsolete, so consider this light version as the better and faster version of Renguard... )

No functions are removed and it's faster and easier..


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Re: RenGuard Lite - Any chance of seeing something like this? [message #177871 is a reply to message #177375] Fri, 04 November 2005 13:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It doesn't have to wait for 1.05

Once 1.04 is released, the basic functionality isn't going to be changed for a lite, just the GUI. I don't see a huge issue in BHS waiting to ensure 1.04 is stable then (so long as they have the time), editing the GUI.

But that is a nice list of things I would like to see.

BHS: Is there a formal way to approach this? Some kind of Poll perhaps?


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Re: RenGuard Lite - Any chance of seeing something like this? [message #177960 is a reply to message #177871] Sat, 05 November 2005 02:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nice idea and all, but here are some test results:

RenGuard 1.04 Full - 3.0 seconds startup time. (ready to start renegade with html loaded)
RenGuard 1.04 Lite - 2.2 seconds startup time. (ready to start renegade)

Lite has the sound system completely disabled and no html control at all. I am sure we can live with 0.8 seconds imo, again i like the idea, but is it worth the 0.8 seconds that you hardly notice?


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Nothing is impossible, somethings just requires alot of time.

"Impossible" things done so far together with SK:

RenRem Protocol - Custom Checksum/Encryption
HL2 FileSystem replacement
C&C95 Multiplayer under XP with up to 4 players

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Re: RenGuard Lite - Any chance of seeing something like this? [message #177962 is a reply to message #177375] Sat, 05 November 2005 02:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If it loads in the background whilst Renegade is launching, it amounts to basically 0.5 seconds.

Add to that the smaller GUI (just the buttons etc.), which is mainly for aesthetics, and you end up with a minimalist option that quite a few people would go for.


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Re: RenGuard Lite - Any chance of seeing something like this? [message #177964 is a reply to message #177962] Sat, 05 November 2005 03:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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light wrote on Sat, 05 November 2005 04:45

If it loads in the background whilst Renegade is launching, it amounts to basically 0.5 seconds.

Add to that the smaller GUI (just the buttons etc.), which is mainly for aesthetics, and you end up with a minimalist option that quite a few people would go for.


It wouldn't, considering Renegade would be very very slow when starting while RenGuard is busy scanning everything.

Just resize the window and you have your small view with only what you want.


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Nothing is impossible, somethings just requires alot of time.

"Impossible" things done so far together with SK:

RenRem Protocol - Custom Checksum/Encryption
HL2 FileSystem replacement
C&C95 Multiplayer under XP with up to 4 players
Re: RenGuard Lite - Any chance of seeing something like this? [message #177965 is a reply to message #177960] Sat, 05 November 2005 03:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Scorpio9a wrote on Sat, 05 November 2005 10:18

Nice idea and all, but here are some test results:

RenGuard 1.04 Full - 3.0 seconds startup time. (ready to start renegade with html loaded)
RenGuard 1.04 Lite - 2.2 seconds startup time. (ready to start renegade)

Lite has the sound system completely disabled and no html control at all. I am sure we can live with 0.8 seconds imo, again i like the idea, but is it worth the 0.8 seconds that you hardly notice?

That does depend on your PC speed, memory and stuff. The less, the better, and people like me will stop complaining Razz


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Re: RenGuard Lite - Any chance of seeing something like this? [message #178006 is a reply to message #177375] Sat, 05 November 2005 13:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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light wrote on Sat, 05 November 2005 04:45

If it loads in the background whilst Renegade is launching, it amounts to basically 0.5 seconds.

The fact of the matter is, we can't allow the Renegade client to connect to any RenGuard-protected server before the RenGuard client has finished scanning for cheats. Thus, if RenGuard launches Renegade before or while scanning for cheats, it's entirely possible that Renegade will be able to connect to a game server before RenGuard has finished.


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Re: RenGuard Lite - Any chance of seeing something like this? [message #178014 is a reply to message #178006] Sat, 05 November 2005 14:01 Go to previous message
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Kanezor wrote on Sun, 06 November 2005 09:35

light wrote on Sat, 05 November 2005 04:45

If it loads in the background whilst Renegade is launching, it amounts to basically 0.5 seconds.

The fact of the matter is, we can't allow the Renegade client to connect to any RenGuard-protected server before the RenGuard client has finished scanning for cheats. Thus, if RenGuard launches Renegade before or while scanning for cheats, it's entirely possible that Renegade will be able to connect to a game server before RenGuard has finished.



Ah, I hadn't considered that Sad


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