| Re: Renguard not needed to play Renegade [message #176701 is a reply to message #176329] |
Fri, 28 October 2005 06:23   |
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There is nothing you can say that will make me doubt RenGuard effectiveness. I, like the other members of BHS, have more knowledge than pretty much anyone on Renegade cheats. We have more inside information in more places than you can imagine. With that knowledge, I trust RenGuard to keep cheating out of my server, and as a server owner, I instructed my moderators to take cheating accusations on people running RG very seriously. If someone is suspected of cheating with RG on, they are banned from the network and their activities investigated. I can't go into details for obvious reasons, but we deal with each and every bypass accusation and suspect activity personally. We have been trusted by over 100 servers and we take the responsibility very seriously. We are people who play the game, too (personally I have played 106 games so far this month) and we just want to keep it alive.
If you just look for the information, you will easily find it. RenGuard uses port 80 for loading the web site, and port 6300 to maintain a constant connection to one of our master servers. If you read the Terms of Service you will see that we "[reserve] the right to collect private data regarding your installation of Software and Command and Conquer: Renegade in order to specifically identify you to the network. This data is one-way hashed with MD5 or similar technology for your protection."
Everything is and always has been spelled out for you if you're paranoid enough to need to see it. RenGuard has been installed over 15,000 times in the 18 months since its release and no one has EVER found anything suspect in its activities. (Because there's nothing to find)
I've never said RenGuard was 100% effective either. I know it's been bypassed. I also know that we've fixed any bypasses that come out and will continue to do so.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: Renguard not needed to play Renegade [message #176725 is a reply to message #176658] |
Fri, 28 October 2005 10:13 |
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| BrokenClaw wrote on Thu, 27 October 2005 17:02 |
just by you saying i dont use renguard i must be cheating makes you close minded . i was responding to crimsons' comment . i think you need to scoll up and read the posts before you make a comment .
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You said that she is "just as close minded like everyone else" did you not? So lets review shall we? I did read it all, apperently better than you did your own. If Crimson is a close minded as everyone else then everyone else must be close minded. Clearly you are a little slow so I will try to explain this again. I could (if I so choose to) use your lack of logic that assumes RG is malicious (thats a big word for bad) to assume you cheat. You have no proof that RG is in any way a harmful to your PC or network but yet you accuse it of being bad. I have no proof that you cheat so I can use the same to assume you do.
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| Re: Renguard not needed to play Renegade [message #176794 is a reply to message #176329] |
Sat, 29 October 2005 05:35 |
omega79
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you know what pisses me off is that you cant use commands like !donate without rg, or those annoying popups which are telling you that you dont need to use renguard but you should ... i wouldnt mind if those things popup when you enter the server but it opens every couple of minutes, it happened today in 2 dangerous situations (in the middle of a rush and when i was the only hotty repairing our ref)
those things are really bullshit, specialy if you cant use rg cuz its telling you all the time that you have a corrupted always.dbs no matter how often you reinstall renny and renguard or how often you dowload it from friends or zunnies website.
in the past i never had problems with rg, and i told everyone that there arent any problems ... and that they have to use it if they are annoyed by the popups ... but now, after i have those problems, i can understand how pissed those people were
pls fix rg asap ... so many ppl have problems with rg atm
Omega79 aka DethOIVI
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| Re: Renguard not needed to play Renegade [message #176821 is a reply to message #176794] |
Sat, 29 October 2005 11:23 |
Kanezor
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| omega79 wrote on Sat, 29 October 2005 07:35 |
you know what pisses me off is that you cant use commands like !donate without rg, or those annoying popups which are telling you that you dont need to use renguard but you should
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I agree, that's quite annoying. But you know what? The RenGuard team cannot do anything about that. It's the server owners that set whether or not their players can use !donate and etc.
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| Re: Renguard not needed to play Renegade [message #177360 is a reply to message #176329] |
Wed, 02 November 2005 00:28 |
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Goztow
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All reasons that people give here (pop-ups, no !donate, ...) can all be configured by server owners. It's a pity servers became so darn cheap... now people just give money, throw a server up WOL or gamespy and don't configure anything...
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: Renguard not needed to play Renegade [message #177403 is a reply to message #176329] |
Wed, 02 November 2005 05:38 |
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Kytten9
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I personally see the OP as a silly idea. You don't trust third party programs, ok you made your point, people didn't agree with you, but that is THEIR OWN OPINION, and instead of accepting it, you decided to attempt to ram YOUR OWN OPINION down their throats in an ill guided attempt to make others change their minds or see they are wrong.
You're wrong in my opinion, but that's my opinion I will keep it, I won't change it and frankly I couldn't give a fuck if you agree with it, respect it or print it out, take it outside, wipe your ass with it and then burn it. It's the way I feel it has fuck all to do with you.....learn that word BrokenClaw, It's nice you have your own opinion, let others have theirs too. Not everyone is right or wrong all the time.
^That is open mindedness.
You have a God given right to be stupid. Please do not abuse this right!
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| Re: Renguard not needed to play Renegade [message #177752 is a reply to message #176329] |
Thu, 03 November 2005 18:38 |
omega79
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I agree, that's quite annoying. But you know what? The RenGuard team cannot do anything about that. It's the server owners that set whether or not their players can use !donate and etc.
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did not administrate a server for a long time ...
all i remember is that it was impossible to turn off those popup messages ... but thats long time ago, maybe i remember wrong
but i gess you are rite, can remember that it was possible to set commands which only rg users are able to use ... to bad people dont care about the confing
it is bad for the team if some players cant donate
Omega79 aka DethOIVI
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| Re: Renguard not needed to play Renegade [message #177780 is a reply to message #176329] |
Thu, 03 November 2005 21:09 |
rengody
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all i have to say is, i would use renguard, if i didn't have problems with it, like this virus thing, i don't understand none of it, i just want to play renegade and renguard helps me with those annoying popups, anyone know if i can go back to renguard 1.1 and see if i still have virus problem?
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| Re: Renguard not needed to play Renegade [message #177805 is a reply to message #176329] |
Fri, 04 November 2005 02:31 |
JPNOD
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As a 3rd part or whatever you call it Renguard is doing a good job.
I mean look at WoW. They have a build in anti cheat (warden or whatever it is called) and they scan your MSN/aim buddy list and other programs running. I see that more sitting in ur pc then RG only scanning Renegade folder.
And that WoW anti cheat is from the original maker of the game..
As long as RG keeps it this way, and does not scan other private things I don't see how they are doing anything wrong but protecting you and your felow gamers.
If you don't want to run Renguard, I only run it when I have too.
Play on Servers without RG like NoN00bs.net
WOL nick: JPNOD
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| Re: Renguard not needed to play Renegade [message #178346 is a reply to message #176329] |
Tue, 08 November 2005 06:03 |
omega79
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the sad thing is that some really cant use RG ...
in the past i doubt that, i thought those people were just to lazy or to stupid to install rg ... but since i had such bad problems with rg i know it happens, and i know that some people really cant use rg.
maybe bhs should think about new default settings for the next version.
default settings which allow users to donate to others, or defaults which set the popup to only appear at the start of a map or just once after you joined the server.
Omega79 aka DethOIVI
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| Re: Renguard not needed to play Renegade [message #178349 is a reply to message #178346] |
Tue, 08 November 2005 06:41 |
Caveman
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| omega79 wrote on Tue, 08 November 2005 07:03 |
the sad thing is that some really cant use RG ...
in the past i doubt that, i thought those people were just to lazy or to stupid to install rg ... but since i had such bad problems with rg i know it happens, and i know that some people really cant use rg.
maybe bhs should think about new default settings for the next version.
default settings which allow users to donate to others, or defaults which set the popup to only appear at the start of a map or just once after you joined the server.
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I've had some problems with RenGuard which can be annoying but i dont get so many problems that i refuse/cant use it.
As to the pop-up thing, yes i agree it is annoying, ive played against good players who wasnt using Renguard and has no bar or hand, having a fight and then he gets the message and losing the last hotwire or whatever. What i pose is to not make that message use !pamsg but to ppage them, I think this will make it easier and more enjoyable for Non-RenGuard players.
To server owners that use brenbot 1.35 or higher you can set what commands you can/can't use if not running RenGuard. I have found it annoying having to quickly ATM people to get a donation so ive made it useable just like some other commands.
I think the only command that wont work for normal Non-RenGuard players are; !forcerg (why should a non rg force another non rg) and voting.
This way it makes everyone happy.
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BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ
Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.
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| Re: Renguard not needed to play Renegade [message #178353 is a reply to message #176329] |
Tue, 08 November 2005 07:12 |
omega79
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on our server non rg users were able to use almost every command ... only showmods, rg and forcerg were restricted.
but my point is that many people just dont configure the rg settings ... they simply use the default, thats why i think that bhs should modify the default settings.
Omega79 aka DethOIVI
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