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Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #137742] Fri, 11 February 2005 20:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I dont think any character or vehicle is usless (apart from the transport chopper - that i agree on)

Flame/chem trooper are good in tunnels where everything is very tight nit...for example if you have a good chem or flame trooper on field you can more or less keep GDI snipers out of the tunnels because they have to refil so much or die trying. (unless the sniper is l33t or cheats)

Sydney (tib version) is good when: you have no WF, no have no Ref and the map is about 5 mins from over and the points are marginal because she delivers a reasonable amount of damage to vehicles but the points value return is helpful and she's cheap.

If Ramjets didnt damage flying vehicles as much as they do, it would turn City Flying into a nightmare, that map is unbalanced because apaches can reach the pp and ref too easily and a wolf pack of apaches would destroy the agt in minutes. Although im not too sure i agree with the amount of damage a ramjet does to the ranged artilary for both teams.


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Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #137779] Sat, 12 February 2005 02:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lack of ramjets would only be a problem in small games, in big games you'd actually see orca vs apache fights won by skill instead of some retard with zero skill interfering with it with his n00btube

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Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #137860] Sat, 12 February 2005 14:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes spoony, but you know who would win every game as much as I do
Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #137861] Sat, 12 February 2005 14:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Usless vehicles: None

Useless charecters: None

Everything in this game has it's use.


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Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #137875] Sat, 12 February 2005 16:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you can give me one example of when a transport helicopter or a tyb syd would have any use at all in a small game, ill give you a cookie
Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #137942] Sat, 12 February 2005 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you can give me one example of when a transport helicopter or a tyb syd would have any use at all in a small game, ill give you a cookie


Is this a genuine example or one with n00bs as an example? (wait we have n00bstories for that one) Shocked Very Happy

Ok Spoony I give up, but can I have the cookie for trying? :lookround: :bigups:


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Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #137944] Sat, 12 February 2005 21:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually... The transport helicopter CAN be useful. It carries 5 people, it flies (unlike apc which can be blocked) and it's semi fast, and not as vunerable to normal fire than an apc (it has more than horizontal movement)

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Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #137968] Sun, 13 February 2005 01:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually... The transport helicopter CAN be useful. It carries 5 people, it flies (unlike apc which can be blocked) and it's semi fast, and not as vunerable to normal fire than an apc (it has more than horizontal movement)


The transport chopper is MORE vulnerable to normal fire... snipers don't eat APCs in a few shots.


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Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #137976] Sun, 13 February 2005 04:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually... The transport helicopter CAN be useful. It carries 5 people

4 including the pilot, which I've never really understood... in C&C it was 5 passengers, so it should be either 5 or 6, depending on whether you count the pilot as a passenger

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Yes spoony, but you know who would win every game as much as I do

Not so...

Discounting orca/apaches and ramjets, Nod has the best anti-air weapon in the game, the Light Tank. How often do you see a Medium Tank shoot down an Apache? Not often, unless Darkoli05 is flying the apache.

Plus when you take stealth options into account, the game isn't as unbalanced as you'd think. You could say GDI will theoretically win every game, well guess what, theoretically they should win every game as it is, but they don't.


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Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #138027] Sun, 13 February 2005 10:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes spoony, but you know who would win every game as much as I do


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Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #138031] Sun, 13 February 2005 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes spoony, but you know who would win every game as much as I do


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Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #138113] Sun, 13 February 2005 17:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kytten9

I dont think any character or vehicle is usless (apart from the transport chopper - that i agree on)


omg kytten09!!! what ever happened to that sniper yourney you had planned?

the transport chopper should have been allowed to carry up to ten people so that, when there were too many n00bs playing you could drive a pack of them to the middle of c&c city fly and call it shooting practise. have any of you actually killed a soldier falling from a transport chopper? it's best when you catch them in mid air with your apache and do the 'cut em up' with the blades. boink!
Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #138462] Tue, 15 February 2005 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No idea what you are talking about Fox. I didnt have anything planned, (that i can recall) I disappeared for a while because i was having a baby. It's also the same reason i dropped my irc network, because Smokie was too busy with the WoW beta too.

Yeah Fox i ONCE killed someone falling from a chopper in City flying and that guy screamed Cheat at me for the rest of the game, regardless of the fact i had RG on.

I hate n00bs, morons and idiots in general. :rolleyes:


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Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #138464] Tue, 15 February 2005 10:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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coolest thing ever was when I 2v2'd with Doomflama against +FE+ about a year ago, map was wallsflying us Nod, I had an apache Flama had an arty, an orca rushed us which we killed, and Flama headshotted the hotwire on his way down with his arty Razz

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Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #138529] Tue, 15 February 2005 15:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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me and nzf in a public server, i had orca and lost it to snipers, nzf had an orca under me and caught me while I was falling

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Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #138594] Wed, 16 February 2005 00:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Patches are actually surprisingly good against buildings--they are after all in the grenadier class. It's just silly, though, to use your ammo against buildings unless you can refill quickly.

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Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #138608] Wed, 16 February 2005 07:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i cant really think of a single one i think is COMPLETELY (sorry i mean Completly oO) useless.

even a transport copter is useful if it made room to get an apc in the other end. Surprised Smile


Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #138656] Wed, 16 February 2005 15:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chem sydneys in transports are the shit. I think the transport would be better if there was a little chaingun mounted and a passenger could use it :/

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Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #138679] Wed, 16 February 2005 17:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Patches are actually surprisingly good against buildings--they are after all in the grenadier class. It's just silly, though, to use your ammo against buildings unless you can refill quickly.


Vs. Buildings at the MCT (per clip): 10% (50 damage)
Vs. Buildings, non-MCT (per clip): 8% (40 damage)

Even with his C4 you can't kill a building by yourself. Your ammo is generally better spent elsewhere. He makes a good assist character to take on basebusting missions to cover engys or techs, though.


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Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #138797] Thu, 17 February 2005 07:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can you shoot from a transport with your units weapon if you are a passenger?

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Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #138801] Thu, 17 February 2005 07:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No, but it'd be pretty darn cool if you could.

I doubt the game engine would support it though, probably isn't possible to make a mod to do it.


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Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #138820] Thu, 17 February 2005 10:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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it be cool if the trans helis had turrets inside of them for the passangers Cool
Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #138850] Thu, 17 February 2005 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You silly people, do you know that both teams are equipped with combat aircraft on C&C_City_Flying.mix? The best way to counter aircraft is with aircraft, but that's just me. Just get a bunch of PICs or Raveshaws guarding your base if your main base defense is destroyed or disabled...

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Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #139006] Thu, 17 February 2005 23:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Homey

Chem sydneys in transports are the shit. I think the transport would be better if there was a little chaingun mounted and a passenger could use it :/


when i was making maps I dug the original transport copter model out.
It comes with twin machine guns affixed the only problem is they both face straight forward and u cant get em to move. Sad


Completly Useless vehicles/infrantry [message #139169] Fri, 18 February 2005 16:02 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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That would still be better than nothing...

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