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Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130427] Mon, 03 January 2005 06:57 Go to next message
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Okay for those who don't know me I'm quite experienced at this game and in particular sniping. I created the first ever sniper clan in this game (during beta). Since beta I've been sniping and playing AOW quite a lot.

I only just joined Renegade again (after a few months of not playing), and for the past few weeks I've been playing under another name (N00bsnip2).

During this time, all I've done is play sniper games (my specialty). Now over the past week or so I've been repeatedly kicked and banned from servers for 'cheating'. There are only a few sniper servers that use RenGuard, and those that do are usually empty so there is no point of playing there.

I myself have RenGuard, I don't cheat - just I average about 18 headshots a game, and get about 30 kills a game. Now my main problem is with clan games, practically every game I get accused of cheating. So they 'test' me, I pass the test of course but then I still get kicked? Clan sniper games never have RenGuard on as they are usually small games.

In AOW I also snipe, I've been repeatedly kicked from the games. They try to force RG me, but of course I have RenGuard so it accepts me. They then get about 5 people to vote kick me, which in the end works. My team doesn’t even vote 'no', they just asked how I managed to get 60+ kills.

Renegade sniping is nothing like it used to be. I've also spoken to other very good snipers and they just tell me the same, they are sick of it too.

Something needs to be done about this ASAP.
Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130429] Mon, 03 January 2005 07:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The only thing that can be done is get every server to RenGuard.

No. Seriously. No.
Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130430] Mon, 03 January 2005 07:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I know, but I doubt that's going to happen.
Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130431] Mon, 03 January 2005 07:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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These morons bought the game for $5 or with the C&C pack for $15. They weren't around before cheats, so cheats is all they know. They're probably too stupid to fathom that someone from BETA could be playing. All in all, Renegade has been turned into a bargain bin deal. Once you go there, the game goes downhill. Morons and cheaters flock to this bargain bin game and decide to play it on their parents' computer and then whine, bitch, and moan when they find out that they're not the best player. Of course, not everybody is like this, but the majority is becoming this way.

Re: Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130439] Mon, 03 January 2005 09:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Now my main problem is with clan games, practically every game I get accused of cheating. So they 'test' me, I pass the test of course but then I still get kicked? Clan sniper games never have RenGuard on as they are usually small games.

Hmmm, well I've got a couple of renguard dedis for clan games, so does +FE+. (GDI-GT do as well, but since they always kick people when they're about to lose, they don't really count)

The problem with "sniper" clans now is they all seem to think islands tunnel is sniping. Now, when you play them, they tell you some bullshit rules like "no crack no loop no base entry no Shooting of any kind", which are not clanwar rules and never have been. The reason for this is nothing to do with fairness, it's because they like to make bullshit excuses when they lose to people who can actually snipe instead of wallpop. That's why...


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Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130444] Mon, 03 January 2005 09:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I know the feeling, pisses me off. I was told yesterday that I wasn't allowed to use the harvester as cover as it was 'breaking the rules'. Pathetic, they've probably been playing the game for a couple of months, and they already think they control it.
Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130449] Mon, 03 January 2005 10:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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there needs to me more PURE RG servers for sniping.. even with just basic RG running people can still use click bots
i've stoped visiting sniper servers .. the mods are retards and nobody uses renguard.. its worthless
Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130451] Mon, 03 January 2005 10:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I agree totally, sniping on most servers has turned to crap, I stick to Fnsrv1 and Fnsrv2, maybe the occasional other game but not usually. I have found that those are the only servers where I don't get banned for "cheats"
Plus, I mod there. lol
Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130452] Mon, 03 January 2005 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There is, and has been, no kind of "sniping" in this game. There is no recoil or skill involved, point in the area and you get the shot you want. It isn't hard at all to get 60+ kills a game in one of those servers when your only targets are people that move really slow.
Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130456] Mon, 03 January 2005 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I know but the common term used in Renegade is 'sniping'. Everyone instantly knows what you are talking about as soon as you say that. Plus Renegade sniping is high entertaining, that's why its so popular.

Sniping definitely requires skill, such as: movement patterns, reload timing, map knowledge, wall hugging, accuracy. view point (3rd/1st), chance/risk assesment, lag assesment, etc.

It might not be hard to get 60 kills in AOW, but I garantee it's not easy when you play a sniper only game with people your own level of skill.
Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130458] Mon, 03 January 2005 11:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No, it doesn't. I didn't need any of that "movement pattern" crap or anything else in the entire time I played on those idiotic servers. All I did was use badly designed cover to my advantage and kill opposition forces, it was not hard at all.

As I said, there is no skill. Only who can flicker faster in scope mode and use the most body shots with their n00b cannon "sniper rifles."
Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130460] Mon, 03 January 2005 11:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ACK, if you dont like Renegade, dont fucking post here then :rolleyes:
Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130462] Mon, 03 January 2005 11:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you don't use scope you shouldn't have problems with people flickering. If you were to use ramjet in a sniper clan game, your team would most probably lose due to points given.

Also movement pattern does matter, you need to know when to duck/jump, otherwise I'm going to predict your next move and get that headshot.

Plus who needs bodyshots when you can get a headshot or neck shot?
Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130463] Mon, 03 January 2005 11:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This thread isn't about liking Renegade, it's about how stupid players can be when they get killed and think "omg cheat".

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWG7-SkWpjU&feature=relmfu
Here's a compelling comment instead.
Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130464] Mon, 03 January 2005 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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exactly, now lets get back on topic
Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130467] Mon, 03 January 2005 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We were on topic before n00bma came in and tried to tell me what to do. Go get in your box you stupid kid.

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If you don't use scope you shouldn't have problems with people flickering. If you were to use ramjet in a sniper clan game, your team would most probably lose due to points given.


If you don't use scope mode, you still see people flicker around. Both n00b cannons, the "snipers," are based on body shots in that situation.

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Also movement pattern does matter, you need to know when to duck/jump, otherwise I'm going to predict your next move and get that headshot.


You never need to jump or duck. Both simply get you killed.
Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130471] Mon, 03 January 2005 11:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No, it doesn't. I didn't need any of that "movement pattern" crap or anything else in the entire time I played on those idiotic servers. All I did was use badly designed cover to my advantage and kill opposition forces, it was not hard at all.

As I said, there is no skill. Only who can flicker faster in scope mode and use the most body shots with their n00b cannon "sniper rifles."


Want to play a sniper clan game then? Oh wait, THIS GAME SUCKS I DONT PLAY IT I JUST POST ON THESE FORUMS STILL K THX.


+B.R+
Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130474] Mon, 03 January 2005 11:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Considering in the three years I played, I probably have seen more people, been in more servers and games and individual communities than you. So while I may not play this game anymore, I still post here because:

A) I want to.
B) I can.
C) I feel like it.
D) I like advertising here and insulting the various people that whine and give me a few minutes of laughter.
E) People like you, who remind me why Darwin's theories were wrong.
Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130477] Mon, 03 January 2005 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller

E) People like you, who remind me why Darwin's theories were wrong.

I wonder if that's partially the reason why Darwin revoked all he had theorized.

Anyways... I think there has to have some skill involved in "sniping", but I also don't think it's near as much as others think it is. Sniping in CS:S is A LOT harder than Renegade.


Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130481] Mon, 03 January 2005 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you don't use scope mode, you still see people flicker around. Both n00b cannons, the "snipers," are based on body shots in that situation.


I don't get any flickering, unless my computer is acting up or my latency to the server is bad.

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You never need to jump or duck. Both simply get you killed.


Most things actions in Renegade can 'simply get you killed', just you have to know how to use them right or better than your opponent(s) so that it doesn't get you killed.
Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130482] Mon, 03 January 2005 12:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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E) People like you, who remind me why Darwin's theories were wrong.

I wonder if that's partially the reason why Darwin revoked all he had theorized.

Anyways... I think there has to have some skill involved in "sniping", but I also don't think it's near as much as others think it is. Sniping in CS:S is A LOT harder than Renegade.


Yeah sniping in CS:S is pretty tough, but I wouldn't say it's alot harder.

Possibly just me though. Confused
Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130488] Mon, 03 January 2005 12:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How can you "not get flickering"?

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Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130489] Mon, 03 January 2005 12:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't really know, also my FPS never drops below 100 and I mostly play on servers with high SFPS.

Could be my eyes then or I'm so used to it, it doesn't stand out. Surprised :rolleyes:
Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130494] Mon, 03 January 2005 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't get any flickering, unless my computer is acting up or my latency to the server is bad.


No wonder you're so "good", everyone else has to deal with it! Razz
Renegade sniping in shambles [message #130496] Mon, 03 January 2005 12:35 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I think it's probably just because I've become accustomed to it, I take what I said back then. Very Happy
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