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| ya em,, [message #107917] |
Sat, 14 August 2004 10:57   |
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Commando is what Renegade was before it was renamed to "Renegade".
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| ya em,, [message #107965] |
Sat, 14 August 2004 15:44 |
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Crimson
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We do plan on this sort of thing, but it would be separate from the "original" game. The CP1 changes enhance the game experience and remove bugs and exploits that server owners usually have to create rules against.
"Remastered" maps would have different names from the original maps so that you could choose to play on the "new" maps, since most of the fixes require client and server-side fixing.
I'm the bawss.
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| ya em,, [message #107984] |
Sat, 14 August 2004 18:02 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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He means you should be more forceful in implementing massive balance changes as quickly as possible without listening to anyone.
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No, I think we should take the game and turn it into a new project like RA is. Except it gets made into what it should be, instead of that craptacular shit it is right now. It would run separate from Renegade, yet you'd get a true C&C experience. And you'd still need Renegade to play online.
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Turn it in to a new project - massive balance changes
Make it a seperate thing from Renegade - It would be easy to force this on servers, like making a statement, "Run our version of Renegade or lose our support."
I think it would be nice to fix problems with Renegade, mainly snipers, but you can't just change everything you want, wrap it up in some pretty packaging, and have everyone just start using it.
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| ya em,, [message #107989] |
Sat, 14 August 2004 18:43 |
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YSLMuffins
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We do plan on this sort of thing, but it would be separate from the "original" game. The CP1 changes enhance the game experience and remove bugs and exploits that server owners usually have to create rules against.
"Remastered" maps would have different names from the original maps so that you could choose to play on the "new" maps, since most of the fixes require client and server-side fixing.
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So all of the bug-fixed maps are going to be under a different name?
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| ya em,, [message #107993] |
Sat, 14 August 2004 18:52 |
flyingfox
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.. but you can't just change everything you want, wrap it up in some pretty packaging, and have everyone just start using it.
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http://www.renalert.com
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| ya em,, [message #107998] |
Sat, 14 August 2004 19:41 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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But that's a standalone mod for Renegade, not Renegade in new packaging with huge balance changes.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| ya em,, [message #108018] |
Sat, 14 August 2004 20:53 |
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exnyte
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No, I think we should take the game and turn it into a new project like RA is. Except it gets made into what it should be, instead of that craptacular shit it is right now. It would run separate from Renegade, yet you'd get a true C&C experience. And you'd still need Renegade to play online.
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Personally, if this were ever done, I'd play it. Sometimes changes are welcome. Would be nice to play the same game, but with a change in pace, so to speak.
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| ya em,, [message #108030] |
Sat, 14 August 2004 21:32 |
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Aircraftkiller
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game1 P Pronunciation Key (gm)
n.
An activity providing entertainment or amusement; a pastime: party games; word games.
A competitive activity or sport in which players contend with each other according to a set of rules: the game of basketball; the game of gin rummy.
A single instance of such an activity: We lost the first game.
games An organized athletic program or contest: track-and-field games; took part in the winter games.
A period of competition or challenge: It was too late in the game to change the schedule of the project.
The total number of points required to win a game: One hundred points is game in bridge.
The score accumulated at any given time in a game: The game is now 14 to 12.
The equipment needed for playing certain games: packed the children's games in the car.
A particular style or manner of playing a game: improved my tennis game with practice.
Informal.
An active interest or pursuit, especially one involving competitive engagement or adherence to rules: “the way the system operates, the access game, the turf game, the image game� (Hedrick Smith).
A business or occupation; a line: the insurance game.
An illegal activity; a racket.
Informal.
Evasive, trifling, or manipulative behavior: wanted a straight answer, not more of their tiresome games.
A calculated strategy or approach; a scheme: I saw through their game from the very beginning.
Mathematics. A model of a competitive situation that identifies interested parties and stipulates rules governing all aspects of the competition, used in game theory to determine the optimal course of action for an interested party.
Wild animals, birds, or fish hunted for food or sport.
The flesh of these animals, eaten as food.
An object of attack, ridicule, or pursuit: The press considered the candidate's indiscretions to be game.
Mockery; sport: The older children teased and made game of the newcomer.
According to dictionary.com, it's a game.
Furthermore, were it to be called a "mod," there wouldn't be any "gameplay" since you're not playing a game. It'd just be "we're improving the modplay," which is incredibly stupid sounding.
I don't care if some members of my team call it a mod. They're wrong. Just as WS development team members were wrong when they called Nod "NOD" a few times.
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| ya em,, [message #108085] |
Sun, 15 August 2004 05:15 |
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Fabian
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Wow. Okay, you people can live in your fantasy land and continue thinking that RenAlert is a seperate game.
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First released to the public on June 18th, 1999, Counter-Strike started out as just another fan-produced mod for Half-Life. But thanks to a series of steadily improving beta releases, the mod started to grow a very strong and dedicated following. As the team-oriented, tactical gameplay was refined and improved and new concepts and maps were introduced, Counter-Strike became less and less of a mere Half-Life mod and transformed into a whole new game.
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Ack, you're dreaming if you think RenAlert can live up to CS, or if you think RenAlert deserves to be called a seperate game. Get over yourself :rolleyes: .
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| ya em,, [message #108103] |
Sun, 15 August 2004 08:01 |
sfr3f
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Hmm, so Counterstrike is a game and not a Half-Life mod because it features, "refined and improved and new concepts and maps..."
By that definition, the only reason why RenAlert isn't a game is because you have a bone to pick with Aircraftkiller.
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| ya em,, [message #108134] |
Sun, 15 August 2004 10:28 |
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bigejoe14
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Medal of Honor: Allied Assault = Quake 3 Engine
Americas Army = Unreal Engine
Renegade Alert = Renegade Engine
Counter-Strike = Half-Life Engine
Just because a stand alone game uses the same technology as another dosen't automatically make it a modification.
WHATEVER, FAGGOT
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