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| CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #98934] |
Fri, 02 July 2004 11:50   |
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SuperFlyingEngi
Messages: 1756
Registered: November 2003
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Dude, Reborn's not shit, it used to be, but it isn't any more. Wait until the next version is released before you go bashing something that I believe is roughly a year old. You know what is shit?
Commando - They've never released anything publicly yet, all the models look terrible except the ones made by Westwood, and it seems like 9/10 of their time is spent figuring out how to use crappy effects like specular whose only apparent purpose is making models look worse.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #98937] |
Fri, 02 July 2004 11:57 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Registered: November 2003
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Well, if you're going to post models, those are supposed to be criticized. But a couple models can't show what a whole mod is going to be like, unless of course it's Commando, in which case they only have made a couple models, all of which suck, and the only real good asset they have is the Flame Tank they got from Westwood. And Renardin does have a point about the first RenAlert beta.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99053] |
Fri, 02 July 2004 19:13 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
Messages: 1756
Registered: November 2003
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There were 4...?
And they really weren't as bad as you said they were. Yes, they had bugs, but THAT IS WHAT BETAS ARE FOR! And now most of the models have been revamped and supposedly many of the bugs have been fixed, but apparently it still suxz0rs in your eyes.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
The Liberal Media At Work
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| CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99060] |
Fri, 02 July 2004 19:49 |
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PointlessAmbler
Messages: 318
Registered: February 2004
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I must say I have to agree, the beta released around Christmas was total crap. Here is a list of my grievances with that beta:
-Subterranean units didn't work on all maps, and sometimes didn't work on maps that they should have, and the units were still there on maps where they didn't work
-Whole subterranean system was very clunky anyway (magically teleport underground? WTF? And if you try to come up from underground under a building, you end up ON TOP OF the building?)
-Same problem with Juggernaut (doesn't deploy)
-Hover MRLS has terrible steering, making it very difficult to control
-Orcas too fast to be able to control properly, and they have a chaingun...
-Orca Bombers waaaay too powerful and can kill someone (in one hit, mind you!) repairing in the deepest underground section of building
-Harpies can fire missiles...
-Banshees are practically useless
-Stealth Tanks can win a head on fight with a Titan without having to even use their stealth as an advantage (no hit and run tactics required!)
-Wolverines are clunky and slow
-Jumpjet guys can easily destroy most vehicles
-One of the Nod infantry classes has a pistol that fires three times as fast as a normal pistol for some reason
-GDI defenses blow ass and can easily be wiped out by free Nod Rocket Soldiers
-Have to jump to get out of a couple of buildings
-The RPG launcher fires a tank cannon :/
-Vulcan Cannons have difficulty hitting anything
-Lasers and the Obelisk can attack aircraft
-Tick Tank doesn't have a deploy function
-Artillery doesn't have a deploy function
-What's up with all the infantry you made up?
-Cyborg Commando can survive a 300 foot drop and still have 100 health left
-Cluster Missile is a poorly-altered Nuke
-Light Infantry damage is pathetic, just like in Renegade
-Mammoth Mark II has difficulty leaving its own base, the gates are too small for it and it often gets 'caught' on the Harvester
THAT is what's wrong with Reborn. Get that all fixed and put out an enjoyable game before working on making everything look fancy.
Red Alert: A Path Beyond Manual Writer
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| CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99110] |
Sat, 03 July 2004 00:39 |
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there is no new beta since xmas... wtf are you talking about ack ? Most of your dreams aren't true... roflmao Next Reborn beta will show to all how you are wrong... And about this bug list, I think all those things are fixed or will be for the next beta. 
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| CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99113] |
Sat, 03 July 2004 00:45 |
Alkaline
Messages: 1132
Registered: November 2003
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ACK, wait for the next version, you keep saying it is shit, but they are fixing it so why are you fighting with reborn when the know thier are bugs to be fixed? :rolleyes:
http://www.UNRules.com
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| CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99138] |
Sat, 03 July 2004 03:14 |
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Shappy
Messages: 36
Registered: June 2004
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another damn bug from Reborn..:
- You can ran over with vechiles on Cyborgs and cyborg commando
-You can run over yourself in a vechile, this happaned to me when I was inside my own vechile, I ran over myself while insided vechile, and the vechile was empty and ready for the next use..
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| CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99156] |
Sat, 03 July 2004 05:24 |
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| Shappy |
another damn bug from Reborn..:
- You can ran over with vechiles on Cyborgs and cyborg commando
-You can run over yourself in a vechile, this happaned to me when I was inside my own vechile, I ran over myself while insided vechile, and the vechile was empty and ready for the next use..
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??? lol... why are you talking about the old crap beta ???
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| CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99192] |
Sat, 03 July 2004 09:19 |
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there is no new beta since xmas...
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Interesting to note that you guy originally claimed that there would be NO beta. The only public release would be the FULL, bug-free version.
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Next Reborn beta will show to all how you are wrong...
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Meh, you said that six betas ago.
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Steppo : lier.
lol @ you
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| CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99207] |
Sat, 03 July 2004 10:31 |
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PointlessAmbler
Messages: 318
Registered: February 2004
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Nice try, but Angel of Dawn said exactly that last year.
And there's been absolutely no proof that you've done any work whatsoever on fixing the bugs and balance issues that make the game almost unplayable. Gameplay before graphics.
Red Alert: A Path Beyond Manual Writer
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| CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99248] |
Sat, 03 July 2004 14:27 |
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smwScott
Messages: 225
Registered: February 2003
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Why should Renardin have to defend his mod to anyone? As far as I know there have only been 5 betas, so saying that he said something 6 betas ago is incorrect. Also, 4 of the betas were internal, which means they're irrelevant. If you got ahold of internal betas from any mod then you could say a lot of shit about it. The public beta that was released at Christmas was a rushed POS, and could have been a lot better if they had kept it inhouse for a month. That was a mistake, but if they can fix it then that's great.
If Renardin is as bad as Angel of Dawn was, then Angel of Dawn wasn't too bad. He's handling himself a lot better than I would if I was constantly badgered everytime I posted a progress report. Actually, I would probably just ignore it, but if I did respond it wouldn't be as polite as he is.
-smwScott
47% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
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