| Idea [message #88486] |
Tue, 18 May 2004 19:31  |
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Majiin Vegeta
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Location: London
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here is an idea
server runs RG on Required mode ( semi on )
Players with or without RG can join.. those who do not have RG installed will be paged where and how to get it but wont be kicked.. they can play..
now those players who are really good who dont have RG can be kicked and told to go download RG or they wont be coming back..
if the server gets full RG can auto kick anybody without RG to make room for those with
there can be a command to check if somebody has RG ingame like !rginfo dethmadx9
" DethMadx9 is not running RG - please download RG from blah.com "
"DethMadx9 is running RG - He cannot cheat on this server "
something like that
what ya think ?
this way our servers will be used.. and it is alot easier to see if somebody is cheating..
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| Idea [message #88494] |
Tue, 18 May 2004 20:18  |
kadoosh
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Registered: April 2004
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i can't say if that's possible cause i just don't know that much about programing. However i do like the idea.
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| Idea [message #88579] |
Wed, 19 May 2004 00:58 |
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gibberish
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Registered: May 2003
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I already have this implemented, basically I have the game limit (say 14 players) and the Renguard limit (say 10 players).
When an 11th player joins the game a "Non-Renguard" player gets kicked.
This means that over time (if the server is busy) non renguard players get kicked, however if only a few people are on the server the server can be played by Non-Renguarders.
Note: Just because someone doesn't have Renguard doesn't mean they are a cheat.
However I had some issues with Renguard kicking players who were using Renguard so I stopped using RenGuard totally and didn't complete the rest of my changes.
The additional stuff I wanted to put in was that any "Renguard" player could kick any "Non-Reguard" player at will.
| mrpirate |
So basically all the non-cheaters are forced to have RenGuard, and the cheaters are welcome to play without it, as long as they're inconspicuous?
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If they are inconspicous who cares? i.e. if they are not doing any better than an average player it really doesn't matter, however if they are playing well but don't have renguard they are likely to get booted by someone who does.
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| Idea [message #88640] |
Wed, 19 May 2004 09:32 |
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Crimson
Messages: 7428
Registered: February 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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General (5 Stars)
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My biggest problem -- I don't want a cheater in my server. I don't want the outcome of any game in my servers changed by someone who has more than just skill on their side, whether I know it or not. And I am willing to wait as more and more players download RenGuard to have my servers fill back up. But I don't want to waste a single kilobyte of my bandwidth on someone who cheats.
Of course, your thoughts may vary, but that's me.
I'm the bawss.
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| Idea [message #88763] |
Wed, 19 May 2004 15:04 |
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Crimson
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| snipesimo |
This was implemented into Dante's SSC until he was pressured to remove it and did so.
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I re-read the thread and I don't see where that option was contested. I like it... I wouldn't use it, but I like it.
I'm the bawss.
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| Idea [message #88786] |
Wed, 19 May 2004 15:54 |
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Crimson
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Or someone gets a minute or two to spray their flamethrower across the field and wipe out an entire armada of tanks. Grief players WILL take every opportunity given to them to cause grief.
I'm the bawss.
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| Idea [message #88802] |
Wed, 19 May 2004 16:43 |
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Crimson
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And did I ever say anything about the MinimumPlayers option? No, I didn't.
500 points still changes the outcome of the game. I consider cheating anything that changes the outcome of the game. Destroy one tank, kill one guy, make one guy have to run back to base to heal... you've changed the outcome of the game. Like a butterfly flapping its wings on one side of the world... every action has a reaction.
I'm the bawss.
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| Idea [message #88833] |
Wed, 19 May 2004 17:15 |
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Crimson
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Yes, that's what we're talking about. But I never tried to talk anyone out of having that option available! I personally wouldn't use it, but that doesn't mean everyone else has to do the same.
I'm the bawss.
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| Idea [message #88838] |
Wed, 19 May 2004 17:22 |
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Crimson
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It doesn't matter. We need either the SSC or a teeny tiny fix in the logfile handling for BR.NET more than some option. Not that I'm saying you can't have it...
I'm the bawss.
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| Idea [message #88887] |
Wed, 19 May 2004 18:51 |
eh4canada
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Registered: September 2003
Location: canada....DUH :)
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i think the original idea is a good one...half the reason many ppl want to get renguard is because they are tired of being accused of cheats, so if there was some sort of program on the server that could tell wether or not a person was using renguard, it could be confirmed that they dont cheat without the long boring screenshot process which takes forever and half the time ends up with the person leaving...the other reason servers dont run renguard is the fear of the server being empty all the time...with a program like this ppl without renguard could play and the server would have at least the same or more ppl 
im not too sure i like the idea of non-renguard ppl being kicked for room though, the "disputing ban" forums for many servers could be flooded with "ive been kicked for no reason" topics...probably better to page them every few minutes and tell them where they can get renguard...that is probably one of the best ways to encourage ppl to get renguard...once a good percentage of the ppl playing in a server are using renguard they can set it to not let anyone who doesnt have renguard play in the server like renguard servers are now
WOL: HTCanada
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