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No there is a very small health risk. You wil lnot get cancer unless you handle the uranium and then eat it and take a bath with it. Trust me I have handled thes eshells my parents have handled these shells and hundreds of thousands of other have and i have heard notihng but lies about it form people like you. Its depleted not impleted!


Its not radioactivity that's the problem, I think that's what you are talking about. Depleted uranium weapons can create a uranium vapor when used. Breathing that can be extremely hazardous to your health.


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No there is a very small health risk. You wil lnot get cancer unless you handle the uranium and then eat it and take a bath with it. Trust me I have handled thes eshells my parents have handled these shells and hundreds of thousands of other have and i have heard notihng but lies about it form people like you. Its depleted not impleted!


Its not radioactivity that's the problem, I think that's what you are talking about. Depleted uranium weapons can create a uranium vapor when used. Breathing that can be extremely hazardous to your health.


Ya but that stil ver unlikely becuase you would have to right there to breath it in on account that the uranium is vaporized in the explosion.


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Back then were the US military using iraqi civilians and US troops as experiments for depleted uranium shells.

Now troops ahve precations, but what the envirinment and iraqi civilians
arent the US giving them any thing to take precations.

seems to me iraqi life is cheap.

New weapons will tested on US troops and civilians, 10 years later US military will say we did now about them new weapons, but we do now and we have taken precautions.
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Ya but that stil ver unlikely becuase you would have to right there to breath it in on account that the uranium is vaporized in the explosion.


I have seen things about how tanks destroyed with depleted uranium weapons become a hazard due to the remaining uranium vapor. I can't quote anyone on that though, so it might not be true.

However, the guy I know at the military arsenal said that depleted uranium, when fired, can leave toxic remnants in the barrel of the tank that fired it. There is now special cleaning solutions that are used to clean out the barrels of the tanks so that soldiers won't be harmed by it.


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Toxins from NATO Bombs Endangering Six Countries Besides Serbia; Use of
Depleted Uranium Shells Condemned by Experts

ATHENS, Apr. 10 - Greek experts registered an increase in levels of toxic substances in the atmosphere of Greece, and said that Albania, Macedonia, Italy, Austria and Hungary all face a potential threat to human health as a result of NATO's bombing of Serbia, which includes the use of radioactive depleted uranium shells.

Prof. Christos Zerefos, a member of the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) and director of the world center for ozone cartography, said that one day after the start NATO's attack on Yugoslavia, Greek experts discovered in the atmosphere dioxin and particles of the group of toxic agents knows as furanes, which pose a high risk for human health of the entire region.

Meanwhile, back in New York, the International Action Center, a group that opposes the use of depleted-uranium weapons, called the Pentagon's decision to use the A-10 "Warthog" jets against targets in Serbia "a danger to the people and environment of the entire Balkans".
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Back then were the US military using iraqi civilians and US troops as experiments for depleted uranium shells.

Now troops ahve precations, but what the envirinment and iraqi civilians
arent the US giving them any thing to take precations.

seems to me iraqi life is cheap.

New weapons will tested on US troops and civilians, 10 years later US military will say we did now about them new weapons, but we do now and we have taken precautions.


I'm having trouble reading that. Are you claiming that we are experimenting on the Iraqi people?


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radiation expert Rosalie Bertell said depleted uranium is highly toxic to humans. Bertell, president of the International Institute of Concern for Public Health, called its use in Yugoslavia radiation and toxic chemical warfare that must be denounced.

Some experts also warned of the environmental hazards posed by depleted uranium, which has a half-life of 4.5 billion years. "In Yugoslavia, it's expected that depleted uranium will be fired in agricultural areas, places
where livestock graze and where crops are grown, thereby introducing the specter of possible contamination of the food chain," said Paul Sullivan, executive director of the National Gulf War Resource Center.

Last year, Iraqi doctors said they feared a disturbing rise in leukemia and stomach cancer among civilians who live near the war zone may be linked to depleted uranium contamination of Iraqi farmland.
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In the areas where depleted uranium was used in southern Iraq, a number of serious health problems have emerged among both soldiers and civilians.
For instance, there has been a 66% increase in leukaemias and cancers in southern Iraq. There has also been a marked increase in the numbers of children born with birth malformations, with horrific reports of 3 children in one family being born with severe congenital malformations.

There are also large numbers of soldiers who served in the Gulf with Allied forces and in the Iraqi army, who are now suffering from mysterious illnesses - often referred to as Gulf War syndrome. Many of these illnesses reflect those seen among Iraqi children and civilians. For example, of the 697,000 US troops who served in the Gulf, over 90,000 have reported medical problems. There are also defects reported among their newborn children. In a veterans community in Mississippi, 67% of the children were born with malformations.
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In the areas where depleted uranium was used in southern Iraq, a number of serious health problems have emerged among both soldiers and civilians.
For instance, there has been a 66% increase in leukaemias and cancers in southern Iraq. There has also been a marked increase in the numbers of children born with birth malformations, with horrific reports of 3 children in one family being born with severe congenital malformations.

There are also large numbers of soldiers who served in the Gulf with Allied forces and in the Iraqi army, who are now suffering from mysterious illnesses - often referred to as Gulf War syndrome. Many of these illnesses reflect those seen among Iraqi children and civilians. For example, of the 697,000 US troops who served in the Gulf, over 90,000 have reported medical problems. There are also defects reported among their newborn children. In a veterans community in Mississippi, 67% of the children were born with malformations.



Have you ever thought there may be other benifactors? aybe their diet? Or i nthese tribes the gene is dominanT? I mena look at rusisa the only palce that doesnt have a 100% cancer risk is moscow.becuas ethey dumped nuelcear waste everywhere. that could be rpoff Saddam is hiding things. The point is to get this stuff form depleted uranium you would have to pretty much eat it and then live with it in a sealed roon.


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Its not Uranium I would be bothered about. (Yes the shells do break up on contact and not many of them are ever recovered, but that’s war.)

Its cluster bombs… so many of them are never cleared up. Only two thirds of the things go off on contact and the rest just lie there. Those things stay live for a long time, well long enough for some one to step on them.
-I don’t like to see little boys and little girls in far off countries, that I don’t give a damd about, missing arms and legs. It just doesn’t seem right.
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