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NeoSaber
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besides the emty warheads are a threat to no one.
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They were designed to fire chemical weapons. That fact that they exist is a threat.
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Check this out
The top National Security Council official in the war on terror resigned this week for what a NSC spokesman said were personal reasons, but intelligence sources say the move reflects concern that the looming war with Iraq is hurting the fight against terrorism.
http://www.rense.com/general35/tearr.htm
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The arguement that the Iraq war is hurting the war on terrorism holds no water. One of the biggest leaders of Al-Qaeda was arrested even with the looming war.
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Thu, 20 March 2003 12:34 |
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This is a very intriguing decision (by Beers)," said author and intelligence expert James Bamford. "There is a predominant belief in the intelligence community that an invasion of Iraq will cause more terrorism than it will prevent. There is also a tremendous amount of embarrassment by intelligence professionals that there have been so many lies out of the administration -- by the president, (Vice President Dick) Cheney and (Secretary of State Colin) Powell -- over Iraq."
Bamford cited a recent address by President Bush that cited documents, which allegedly proved Iraq was continuing to pursue a nuclear program, that were later shown to be forgeries.
click on the link and read for more info.
from. http://www.rense.com/general35/tearr.htm
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Thu, 20 March 2003 12:49 |
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President bush said his aim is to liberate people of iraq.
One of his stragey will be shock and awe to liberate them.
He will first liberate 500.000 iraq's.
Life is cheap for the bushes. much cheaper then oil.
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Russian Expert Predicts 500,000 Iraqi Dead
in War Designed To Test Weapons.
link: click to read more info.
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/SLI303A.html
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Thu, 20 March 2003 12:50 |
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Bamford cited a recent address by President Bush that cited documents, which allegedly proved Iraq was continuing to pursue a nuclear program, that were later shown to be forgeries.
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Yeah, someone dropped the ball on that one. However, It doesn't change the fact that Saddam is a brutal tyrant that needs to be dealt with before his power can grow.
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Thu, 20 March 2003 12:57 |
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NeoSaber
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That's a load of crap. We don't need to test precision weapons any more. They are fully tested. This guy is mixing up causes and effects.
Cause: war is approaching, presenting problems to deal with.
Effect: New weapons are designed to deal with these problems. (This is how things like depleted uranium shells and bunker buster missiles were made.)
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Thu, 20 March 2003 13:31 |
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the depleted uranium shells from the last war caused lots of cancer to the citizens of iraq and also to the US troops who served in the last war.
This latest sandstorm which is still ocurreing all arounf the tropps contains this depeleted uranium, now US troops are breathing this.
Bush don't give a dam about this cause the symtoms will appear long after the war has finished.
Depleted uuranium once inhaled into the lungs causes long term sufering and painful death. like I said bush and co will never send their kids to fight this war.
People who support this are cowards, it's all fine sitting in front of your telly or PC and say this war is good. Your not in danger,
Go out and fight the iraqs yourselfs.
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Thu, 20 March 2003 13:37 |
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" I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned, and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war" -- Abraham Lincoln (Nov. 21, 1864 letter to Col. William F. Elkins)
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Thu, 20 March 2003 13:41 |
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the depleted uranium shells from the last war caused lots of cancer to the citizens of iraq and also to the US troops who served in the last war.
This latest sandstorm which is still ocurreing all arounf the tropps contains this depeleted uranium, now US troops are breathing this.
Bush don't give a dam about this cause the symtoms will appear long after the war has finished.
Depleted uuranium once inhaled into the lungs causes long term sufering and painful death. like I said bush and co will never send their kids to fight this war.
People who support this are cowards, it's all fine sitting in front of your telly or PC and say this war is good. Your not in danger,
Go out and fight the iraqs yourselfs.
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I never said depleted uranium was healthy, I was talking about what brought about its use. Geez, is that all you could come up with? I talk about the causes and effects of how weapons come to be and all you can talk about is the health hazards of depleted uranium.
I'd say people who don't support the war are cowards. They are too afraid about what harm may come to them to try to help fellow human beings.
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Thu, 20 March 2003 13:42 |
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" I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned, and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war" -- Abraham Lincoln (Nov. 21, 1864 letter to Col. William F. Elkins)
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Your point?
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Thu, 20 March 2003 13:51 |
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Another reason why US did not like the idea to interview iraqi sceintists.
This big iraqi defecter claimed iraq has destroyed all WMD and chemicals weapons.
His story was not told in the media. it was kept sercret.
click on this link to find out more.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1733.htm
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Saddam's chief nuclear weapons scientist defected a few years ago. He says that if left alone Saddam could have a working nuke in a matter of months.
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Thu, 20 March 2003 14:00 |
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I don't support this war cause it's unjust .
The reason why US is attacking iraq is dominate the middle east.
The middle east holds most of the worlds recources, whoever controls that area controls the world. Does'nt take a rocket sceintist to figure this out.
Why do you think russia france and china disagree with this war.
Only cowards keep silent and make others go to war.
you want this war bad.
go fight it yourself.
Don't you give dam about US troops inhaling depeleted uranium
getting cancer and then die. All for what. Is this what they get.
At least them iraq's who will fight they will die defending their land.
news reporters speaking to normal iraq's in baghdad said they will defend their land against the agressor.
no iraq's soldiers were nearby. this i seen on TV earlier.
So the Iraqi people don't want this war.
it shows this war is not for the iraqi people, rather to kill them.
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Thu, 20 March 2003 14:08 |
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news reporters speaking to normal iraq's in baghdad said they will defend their land against the agressor.
no iraq's soldiers were nearby. this i seen on TV earlier.
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On the contrary, people talking to reporters would shout out "We will fight America to the death" and then promptly whisper "Actually they will be welcomed here." Tom Brokaw said this after he returned from Iraq.
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Thu, 20 March 2003 14:18 |
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Any country has the means of making nukes.
Does this mean US should invade all of them.
That defecter the top iraqi sceintist by the way how much money did he get paid .
I'm not sure too.
He said saddam had the meens of making them but has not made any.
This don't prove saddam has nukes. nor proves he has the the materials to make a nuke ,Materials are needed to be imported from different countries.
now which country will will sell saddam nuke materials.
An african country was acussed 2 weeks ago that it tried to export uranium to iraq. but that was all bull. there was no proof to back this accusation.
No case for this war.
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Thu, 20 March 2003 14:19 |
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I don't support this war cause it's unjust .
The reason why US is attacking iraq is dominate the middle east.
The middle east holds most of the worlds recources, whoever controls that area controls the world. Does'nt take a rocket sceintist to figure this out.
Why do you think russia france and china disagree with this war.
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France has invested much in Saddam, Russia wants the money Saddam owes them, and China will do just about anything that goes against the US.
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Only cowards keep silent and make others go to war.
you want this war bad.
go fight it yourself.
Don't you give dam about US troops inhaling depeleted uranium
getting cancer and then die. All for what. Is this what they get.
At least them iraq's who will fight they will die defending their land.
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I find it funny how you can make comments like this without knowing a thing about me. I do care greatly for the well being of US troops. I'll have you know that the military knows the dangers of depleted uranium and has methods of protecting our soldiers.
If for some reason I was called to fight this war I would. However, like I said you know nothing about me, so I'll fill you in. I happen to have a very weak immune system and get sick very easily. I just got over a cold that left me nearly bed ridden for weeks. It wasn't a very strong virus and would only effect a normal person for a week tops. However after 6 weeks I'm only just starting to get my strength back. I would probably do little more then get in the way of US soldiers.
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Thu, 20 March 2003 14:30 |
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now which country will will sell saddam nuke materials.
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France would do it, or he'd just get it illegally. A couple men were caught near the Iraqi border in Turkey a few months ago with something like a hundred pounds of uranium.
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Thu, 20 March 2003 14:34 |
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I do apologise, you were right I didn't know you had a health problem.
but the troops are going they are risking their lives not to defend US. not to liberate the iraq's.
after saddam is ousted , US will install a military regime subservient to the Bush and not the iraqi poeple. They now if they step out of line like saddam did the US will take em out.
All these bullets and bombs the US will use will be paid out by the new regime when they start to sell the oil.
So the US is not doing this out of charity.
The US told france the billions it will lose and same with russia
if it supported the war then it will have the chance to mak that money,
France declined this offer so did russia this is not about the losing money.
this about who has the greater influence in the middle east.
you see saddam used to be pro US . then he changed to pro france and russia. And now the new regime will be pro US.
france and russia are opposed to this.
Where is this democracy . US will choose the new leader not the poeple of iraq.
I have heard and seen the iraqi poeple in Tv saying the will fight the US. the news reporter of SKY TV said there are no iraqi troops anywere near this poeple. either the that reporter is lying . or your man is.
maybe he talked to kurds who are against saddam.
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Thu, 20 March 2003 14:41 |
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I have heard and seen the iraqi poeple in Tv saying the will fight the US. the news reporter of SKY TV said there are no iraqi troops anywere near this poeple. either the that reporter is lying . or your man is.
maybe he talked to kurds who are against saddam.
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Tom Brokaw was talking to individuals on the streets of Baghdad. When he was able to get away from his government escorts for a few minutes he would get questions like "Are the Americans coming soon?" and statements like "They will be welcome here."
Neither reporter is necessarily lying. It has been shown that many of the Iraqi people believe that Saddam's secret police can hear them even if they are not around. The Sky TV reporter may not have come across someone brave enough to speak up.
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Thu, 20 March 2003 14:49 |
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On your earlier topic about how the US knows about depleted uranium
and will take pracautions.
I don't think that is true.
look at the last war how many US troops as well as british troops suffered
from inhaling uranium they go in thir hundreds if not thousands.
US new about this but did nothing. like i said they will not send their own sons to battle.
the depleted uraniun left in the air has contaminated crops water and animals as well humnas from the last war.
As a result 5 thousand iraqi children die or get cancer and suffer a slow death.
Thats 5 thousand a month since 1991.
Now they will do the same thing again.
Soon there will not be a society left in iraq. proberbly a disfigured disabaled society.
You know what, the iraq's can't even buy proper medication to treat these victims cause of the sanctions as you know this has been happening for 12 years.
US excuse is saddam may use them for military purposes.
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Thu, 20 March 2003 15:04 |
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On your earlier topic about how the US knows about depleted uranium
and will take pracautions.
I don't think that is true.
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The US didn't know during Desert Storm, it was too experimental back then and the military didn't understand the risks.
I happen to know someone who works at a military arsenal (where new weapons are made). He said they do now know about the dangers of breathing depleted uranium fumes and have come up with precautions to keep soldiers as safe as they can.
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