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Why Windows? [message #74678] Mon, 29 March 2004 17:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I thought the only way to format a HD was to go into MS-DOS and type the 'fdisk' command. Heh, well thats how I've always done it Razz .


Fdisk is actually for partitioning the hard drive, you nead to use format to format the drive.

In fact I don't think Windows XP even has an fdisk program. You have to use the MMC disk manager pluggin.
Why Windows? [message #74683] Mon, 29 March 2004 17:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I use Windows because it is efficient. I am starting to use Linux more and more everyday. I am learning about compiling and putting together a Stage 1 Gentoo OS.

My intake on this is that even though Microsoft has about 90%, it will eventually decrease. Schools, corperations, small businesses and even home users need to spend their money on other stuff. While, I'll get feedback that will say "I didn't buy Windows", it's still quite known that a very small percentage of the Windows userbase is using Windows pirated.

I'm working with my school's funding on software and hardware and to purchase all of these Windows 2000/XP operating systems completely blows the funding. We have switched to Linux terminal system and a believe that using it saves a whole lot of money, allows us to use older PCs and also gives us more to work with.

Microsoft won't stand tall forever. They don't have very many promising things to add to their next OS (and after that). I believe that their market will gradually decrease and open-source will play a big role.


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Why Windows? [message #74702] Mon, 29 March 2004 19:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I thought the only way to format a HD was to go into MS-DOS and type the 'fdisk' command. Heh, well thats how I've always done it Razz .


Fdisk is actually for partitioning the hard drive, you nead to use format to format the drive.

In fact I don't think Windows XP even has an fdisk program. You have to use the MMC disk manager pluggin.


On XP it's format, but lets look at windows 3.11... (An odd thing about windows 95-ME is that the 'help' command doesn't work, yet when I turn on my Toshiba, exit windows, and type 'help' (well, help|more) it displays a list of commands Confused .)

Anyway, done booting
FDisk - Configures a HD for use with MS-Dos
Format - formats a hard drive for use with MS-Dos

Well, Fdisk is for deleting partitions. Oh yeah, I did use Fdisk once... I had a (EDIT:) Hitachi notebook vision plus with a ton of crap on it. The drive on it was partitioned, one part with linux, and one with Windows 95. I remember, I had to delete the linux partition. Heh.

Well, you win.


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Why Windows? [message #74759] Mon, 29 March 2004 23:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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2000 is natively NTFS but could be installed as a FAT32 and possibly FAT16. But DOS/95 are FAT and 95OSR2/98/98SE/ME are FAT32


WTF are you talking about:

NTFS = New Technology Filing System

NTFS is simply a filing sytem(partion type) it has nothing to do with whether the OS is based on DOS or not.

If MS wanted to they could have released a new version of DOS that could read and write to NTFS partitions but it would still be DOS. **

The deciding factor is not the partition type, but how the OS interacts with the hardware, In Windows 3.11, windows just made DOS calls and it was DOS that made the hardware calls. In Windows NT based OS'es the windows NT kernel makes direct calls to the hardware without going through a DOS layer.


** - I think there may have been some third party software that can do this.


Short for NT File System, one of the file system for the Windows NT operating system (Windows NT also supports the FAT file system). NTFS has features to improve reliability, such as transaction logs to help recover from disk failures. To control access to files, you can set permissions for directories and/or individual files. NTFS files are not accessible from other operating systems such as DOS.
For large applications, NTFS supports spanning volumes, which means files and directories can be spread out across several physical disks.


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Why Windows? [message #74772] Tue, 30 March 2004 01:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The amount of crashes in an OS is directly proportionate to the user's inability to use it correctly.

I cannot, in recent memory, recall any time in which I got an error that I did not know how to fix, or at least did not accept as my own fault.

When you've got a problem, the first thing you should be checking is the user.err file. :thumbsup:

too true... 98% of all PC problems siting infront of the Monitor Razz

I have installed Win98se Isntalled now for about 2 Years without any reinstall and I got up from Dos 3 to Dos 6 +Win3.1 -> WIn98->se
I think that WIndows is the best for peronal use, Linux is the best for Servers/Multiuser Securety Systems.
Well-.. there are alternatives if you REALLY want to switsch. But most pll are jsut to lazy and just complain about sucking windows... but what will the do without it?


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Why Windows? [message #74784] Tue, 30 March 2004 01:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BTW, I believe you can even install XP on a FAT-partition.
Why Windows? [message #74785] Tue, 30 March 2004 01:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BTW, I believe you can even install XP on a FAT-partition.
Thats not a question of belive.... You can Smile


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Why Windows? [message #74792] Tue, 30 March 2004 02:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Short for NT File System, one of the file system ......


And what does the NT in "Windows NT" stand for ?

http://www.winntmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?IssueID=97&ArticleID=4494

New Technology.

Hence its New Technology Filing System.

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/file/ntfs/


This is actually one of the things that makes me laugh when I see windows 2000 boot, it says:

Based on NT Technology

e.g.:
Based on New Technology Technology

I wonder how much they payed that marketing genius.

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Why Windows? [message #74793] Tue, 30 March 2004 02:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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For a low end server, it is difficult to find flaws in Linux and its really difficult to beat the price. Smile


I'm not sure "low end server" is entirely accurate. We have dual processor linux boxes (both Intel P4 x86 and AMD Opteron x86-64) that thoroughly spank our Solaris boxes that have 8 processors and 8GB of RAM when it comes to raw processing power or database operations (Oracle).

Linux is gaining quite a foothold in the high-end server domain, in part due to the release of the various "Enterprise Linux" distros that are vendor supported and recommended.
Why Windows? [message #74928] Tue, 30 March 2004 19:35 Go to previous message
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