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Thu, 12 February 2004 19:12   |
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well now tghat i have made a complete ass of myself and gotten everyones panties al fucked up why dont we continue with the topic.
George Bush is the worst thing that could have happened to america
let the arguing begin
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #66281] |
Thu, 12 February 2004 19:58 |
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No... Franklin Roosevelt, Lindin Johnson, and Edward Kennedy are some of the worst things that happened to America.
God is the "0wnage". Plain and Simple.
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #66294] |
Thu, 12 February 2004 21:20 |
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Let's get him a pointy-haired boos avatar for the forum!
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Well, I couldn't resist. Here are 3 pics I scanned in that can be used as avatars...
BOSS 1 -
http://www.n00bstories.com/image.fetch.php?id=1350453554
BOSS 2 -
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BOSS 3 -
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If you want to make one of these an avatar, that would be pretty awesome.
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Nooo. The worst thing to happen to America was the birth of these two morons.
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The fact that we don''t agree doesn't make me a moron and you a king, superhero, whatever.
MrBob, you didn't mean Franklin Delacorte Roosevelt when you were talking about the worst things to ever happen to America, did you? He pulled America out of the Depression. Although, if Hoover hadn't made a slew of poor decisions right before the depression, like giving lots of money to the rich so they can invest it in the stock market, the nation could have gotten out of the depression in 9 months, not until the early 1940s.
And without Lyndon Johnson, civil rights would not have come around for a lot longer. Perhaps he wasn't the greatest man as an actual person, but he was brilliant at political manuevering.
Contrary to President Bush, who has lost America almost 3 million jobs, and sent America in to a "war" under false pretexts [WMDs] while lying to American people about how he knew there were WMDs in Iraq and that Saddam could deploy them within an hour.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #66300] |
Thu, 12 February 2004 22:02 |
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*sigh*
*wonders why he even bothers posting when people just argue around it without paying any attention*
To sum up:
Mass murder, torture, and rape of Iraqi citizens- STOPPED
Connection between Saddam and Osama- ESTABLISHED(see my last post)
WMD's- FOUND, BUT NOT IN THE FORM THEY WERE HOPING FOR. Large quantities of nerve and blister agents, in the form of agricultural chemicals which NO average Iraqi under Saddam could have afforded, were found, but were not weaponized! People are off looking for missiles and bombs, and ignoring the big goddamn barrels of the stuff that are sitting right under their noses!
Was Saddam in violation of UN weapon restrictions?- YES! In the very first days of the invasion, Saddam used banned missiles on Kuwait!
On Oil- Iraq produces a very, very, very, VERY, VERY small percentage of the world's oil. If it was oil we were after, we would have gone after some other country. I mean, use your damn brains- if Iraq were a country with enough oil to be worth invading for, would Saddam have invaded Kuwait for its oil?
Were France and Russia, who opposed the invasion, selling banned weapons to Saddam?- A HEARTY YES! Where in the hell do you think all his military hardware came from? Saddam was equipped with the latest in French and Russian military gear, which means both nations were selling him stuff AFTER the first Gulf War!
What in the name of all things highly explosive are you people not seeing here? It's blatantly obvious! Granted, I live with an Army Colonel, and get any information that comes down the pipe (that is, anything that's not classified, of course), but any of the information I've been spewing could be found with about an hour's worth of research!
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine
Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #66316] |
Fri, 13 February 2004 01:32 |
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FYI -- I didn't search Google. If you're looking for a specific location you get much better results with the YELLOW PAGES on DexOnline.com.
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And looky, I (and others) were proved right. I think SuperFlyingEngi just likes to argue. Maybe he's compensating for something lacking in his life.
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #66407] |
Fri, 13 February 2004 16:15 |
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And looky, I (and others) were proved right. I think SuperFlyingEngi just likes to argue. Maybe he's compensating for something lacking in his life.
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I don't argue just for the sake of arguing, I was pointing out how all you people were builing on each other's accusations without taking a step back first. None of you had the capability to prove llama man and pimp boy joe were the same person. The fact that you were proved right doesn't justify what you were doing, it just means you got lucky.
majikent, this is another example of building off of what other people say without applying rational thought. I haven't been saying the exact same thing for five pages. More like two, really, and it's because all of you people wouldn't stop with your accusations that were not founded in fact. Again, you all getting proved right doesn't justify what you were doing, it just means you got lucky.
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I just think he likes seeing what he posts.
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I just think you like re-posting what others post without thinking.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #66411] |
Fri, 13 February 2004 16:23 |
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Look sparky! More proof for Bush supporters! 
The link (in case you don't bother to read below):
http://preview.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20040210090609990004
The article(in case you can't see it, or feel like reading):
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(Feb. 13) - A retired Alabama Air National Guard officer said Friday that he remembers George W. Bush showing up for duty in Alabama in 1972, reading safety magazines and flight manuals in an office as he performed his weekend obligations.
''I saw him each drill period,'' retired Lt. Col. John ''Bill'' Calhoun said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press from Daytona Beach, Fla., where he is preparing to watch this weekend's big NASCAR race.
''He was very aggressive about doing his duty there. He never complained about it. ... He was very dedicated to what he was doing in the Guard. He showed up on time and he left at the end of the day.''
Calhoun, whose name was supplied to the AP by a Republican close to Bush, is the first member of the 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group to recall Bush distinctly at the Alabama base in the period of 1972-1973. He was the unit's flight safety officer.
The 69-year-old president of an Atlanta insulation company said Bush showed up for work at Dannelly Air National Guard Base for drills on at least six occasions. Bush and Calhoun had both been trained as fighter pilots, and Calhoun said the two would swap ''war stories'' and even eat lunch together on base.
Calhoun is named in 187th unit rosters obtained by the AP as serving under the deputy commander of operations plans. Bush was in Alabama on non-flying status.
''He sat in my office most of the time - he would read,'' Calhoun said. ''He had your training manuals from your aircraft he was flying. He'd study those some. He'd read safety magazines, which is a common thing for pilots.''
Democrats have asked for proof that Bush, then a 1st lieutenant with the Texas Air National Guard, turned up for duty in Alabama, where Bush had asked to be assigned while he worked on the U.S. Senate campaign of family friend Winton ''Red'' Blount.
Pay and medical records released by the White House this week failed to quash allegations that Bush shirked his Guard responsibilities.
The 187th's former commander, retired Brig. Gen. William Turnipseed, has said he doesn't remember Bush ever turning up on base, and more than a dozen members of the 800-person unit, including its commander, told The Associated Press this week they have no recollection of Bush. Critics have made much of the fact that the White House has failed to produce anyone who could remember seeing Bush there.
Calhoun said he contacted Texas GOP leaders with his story in 2000 when the issue was raised just before the November general election.
''I got on the phone and got information and called Austin, Texas, and talked to the Republican campaign. They said I was talking to the campaign manager,'' he said. ''I told him my story and said I would be glad to provide information to that effect. At that time they said ... The story is not true. And we don't think it's got enough weight to stay out as a story.' And they said, 'But if it does we'll call you back.' And I never heard from them again.''
Last week as the issue raged again, Calhoun sent an e-mail to the White House offering to tell his story. ''I got a response back, one of those automatic responses,'' he said. It wasn't until his wife contacted Georgia GOP officials that Calhoun's name surfaced.
White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Friday that the White House was not making any effort to try to locate people who might have served with Bush. He also accused reporters of trying to raise new lines of questioning, beyond whether Bush served in Alabama.
Critics have suggested that Bush used his family connections to get the safe Guard assignment ahead of thousands of others. But Calhoun said Bush never mentioned his congressman father while they sat together at Dannelly.
''I knew he was working in the senatorial campaign, and I asked him if he was going to be a politician,'' said Calhoun, who is a staunch Republican. ''And he said, 'I don't know. Probably.'''
Calhoun has not made any donations to Bush this election season or during the 2000 season, according to campaign finance records.
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There's the monkey wrench in the gears for the AWOL argument. Looks like Bush did his time after all.
*In the mean time, everyone else continues to rag on each other...*
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine
Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #66423] |
Fri, 13 February 2004 18:36 |
Llama Man 451
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wow, i never thought anyone could be more hypocritical than me DAMN that whole awol thing . . . what a bunch of bs. you said in there that 800 people had never heard or remembered him (not an exact quote) but it must be true if this one REPUBLICAN who happens to have this disclosed AFTER the whole thing came out completely a couple of days ago, it might make one with a brain wonder. . . sucks for you.
as for whoever psoted that comment about the war. you are nuts. we you say that frnace and russia supplied weapons, guess who else did. WE DID. ummm duh! also we have "WMD's" that you mentioned as well but since we will kick anyone and everyone who tries to fuck with us's ass they aren't going to invade, it could be becasue they dont have a friggin dyslexic retard on a power trip in control. also, you think we arent after oil, several interviews with Iraqui citizens say that they are unhappy with americans, being they gaurd the oil wells and stand there as tanks smash the crap out of innocent commuters/bystanders . . . sound like they are happy with the "liberty" we are giving them. also we are making new plans to move on in the middle east (syria, almost EVERYWHERE) when we have intelligence that north korea is the bigger threat. liberating is not demolishing infrastructure and imposing our beliefs on them. hey anyone ever hear of spain comin over and kicking the shit out of nine million native americans? but that was completely different . . . . right?
also crimson i believe in an earlier post, you were babbling about acting like an adult. well i think your previous post might state otheerwise.
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #66449] |
Fri, 13 February 2004 21:49 |
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And looky, I (and others) were proved right. I think SuperFlyingEngi just likes to argue. Maybe he's compensating for something lacking in his life.
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I don't argue just for the sake of arguing, I was pointing out how all you people were builing on each other's accusations without taking a step back first. None of you had the capability to prove llama man and pimp boy joe were the same person. The fact that you were proved right doesn't justify what you were doing, it just means you got lucky.
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Not lucky. After how long I (and many others) have been on the internet and especially in there forums (over 2 years now), you can read people like a book.
I'm the bawss.
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #66472] |
Sat, 14 February 2004 01:19 |
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I just think he likes seeing what he posts.
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I just think you like re-posting what others post without thinking.
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That's funny... I don't remember anyone else saying this:
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For Clinton, from the beginning of his first term to the end of his second term, there were 23 million more jobs in America. This includes jobs lost.
Same goes for Bush in that from the beginning of his first term until just a short while ago, nearly 3 million jobs have been lost in America. This includes jobs gained.
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How can you possibly compare these numbers when your taking numbers from Clinton's 2 terms and from the first 3 years of Bush's term? Wow... Impressive! Clinton can gain more jobs in a longer period of time than Bush can!
You can't argue this point until both are in office the same amount of time, unless you use like periods of time to compare, (i.e. Clinton's first term, and Bush's first term when it's finished).
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Or this:
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If his father was any hint, this WILL NOT happen.
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What you need to remember is that the current president isn't his father. They have the same name, they even kind of look alike. That doesn't make them the same person. You can't base what our current president has done, or is going to do, by what his father did in his run as president. That's like saying you'll have three kids because your dad did. Or you'll be laid off from a job because your father was previously. It doesn't make any sense. Two completely different people. This isn't to say he isn't influenced by his father, as I'm sure he is. How could his father possibly be a hint to what he is going to do in the next year, and possibly 4 years after that?
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But yet, you seemed to miss those. And the reason I said you have been going on about the same thing for the last five pages is because the first three of those pages could be summarized like this:
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...Blah... blahblah... blah... numbers... blah blah blah... blah. blah blah blah research... blah blah blah.... blah google... blah blah numbers... blah blah blah... blah numbers... blah blah blah... bush bad... blah blah blah... blah... blah facts... blah blah blah... blah numbers...
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You get the point... Then the past two pages you defend Llama and his "friend". Why? No clue. Maybe the reason they figured out they were both the same person was because they did did have the capability to prove it. Why go against what everyone else is saying, even when there is some sort of proof, and you have nothing backing your argument? This is most likely why Crimson brought up the idea that you just like to argue. Or maybe, you just like to see yourself post. Oh wait! I was the first one to say that too.
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #66501] |
Sat, 14 February 2004 08:14 |
Llama Man 451
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i just up and admitted that he was not my intern and you are still having a fucking heart attack over it, christ! you REALLY need to grow up. wow, you have two posts as evidence!!!!!! that doesnt fill up five whole pages my friend!
as for the first five pages, superflyingengl had no other choice becasue AFC (aircraftkiller) basically just kept saying, uh! oh my god! you point is??? i dont see a point! uh! OH MY GOD!!! george bush is a good president and that means your wrong!!!!! UH!!!!!
with crappy arguments like that along with other stupid things from nodbugger (who hasnt posted for several pages i might add, maybe because he finally learned he was full of shit) its kind of hard not to demand some shred of proof, oh wait AFC hasnt posted for a while EITHER hmmmmmmm . . . .
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #66512] |
Sat, 14 February 2004 09:20 |
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...Blah... blahblah... blah... numbers... blah blah blah... blah. blah blah blah research... blah blah blah.... blah google... blah blah numbers... blah blah blah... blah numbers... blah blah blah... bush bad... blah blah blah... blah... blah facts... blah blah blah... blah numbers...
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Actually, I don't recall ever saying this. Did you read the first three pages where I belted out facts and numbers? That's not blather, it's arguing.
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That's funny... I don't remember anyone else saying this:
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This makes it inherently untrue because why? Also, I was just making a stupid statement to show how dumb your earlier one was.
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You get the point...
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Yes, I do....you're an idiot. All those things you said were just supid, and you didn't post my later replies to them, which would make it look like I didn't know what I was talking about, when in fact I did.
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Then the past two pages you defend Llama and his "friend". Why? No clue.
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Seems like someone hasn't bothered reading what I post except what others post about it. I already said why I was defending llama man and pimp boy joe, because innocent until proven guilty. Everyone attacking llama man and pimp boy joe only had a same IP and opinions, which was pretty silly in my eyes.
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Maybe the reason they figured out they were both the same person was because they did did have the capability to prove it.
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Perhaps, but highly unlikely. I doubt any of them work at the psychic friends hotline or personally know pimp boy joe or llama man.
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Why go against what everyone else is saying, even when there is some sort of proof, and you have nothing backing your argument?
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Alright, lets say some cops arrest someone and take him to court. In the court he is charged with murder because both the police officers recall seeing him in the same city on the same day the murder was commited. You think that would ever fly in courts? Hell no. If the opposing argument isn't strong, you don't need anything to back you besides that.
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Or maybe, you just like to see yourself post. Oh wait! I was the first one to say that too.
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Congratulations, you must have not read the thread.[/i]
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #66554] |
Sat, 14 February 2004 13:04 |
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Wow, Llama, think you could type an intelligent response without swearing every single sentence?
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we you say that frnace and russia supplied weapons, guess who else did. WE DID. ummm duh!
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Reality check to Llama, which decade are you referring to? It is unfortunately true, the US did, at one point, back Saddam, but that was not our current administration (read that: not Bush), and it happened before the first Gulf War- and is therefore not contradictory to UN weapon restrictions, which were put in place after that! France and Russia, on the other hand, have sold Saddam weapons between 1991 and 2003, which IS in violation of weapon restrictions (and under their current administrations, too).
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also, you think we arent after oil, several interviews with Iraqui citizens say that they are unhappy with americans
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Ok, smart boy, howzabout you ask them if they want Saddam back? Somehow I don't think that would go over well, either- odds are they'd choose us over him any day. Go ahead, go over there and ask if you have any doubts...or weren't the scenes of Iraqis cheering and greeting American troops when they arrived good enough for you?
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being they gaurd the oil wells and stand there as tanks smash the crap out of innocent commuters/bystanders
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Where do you pull your info from, the supermarket tabloids? The US military never intentionally targets civilians. If the president were to order that, any sane officer would refuse to carry out such orders.
As for guarding oil wells... It's that same oil which will support Iraq's economy when this is all over- allowing those to be destroyed would leave the country with little to no way of getting back on its feet again. Since the Iraqi military is in shambles, and their police still not at full strength, the only force in the region capable of protecting those wells IS the US military. When we eventually pull out, I'd expect that the oil wells will be transferred to the control of a new Iraqi force.
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liberating is not demolishing infrastructure and imposing our beliefs on them
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No, you're right, it's leaving a sadistic, aggressive, pompous ass of a dictator in power who will rape, pillage, burn, mutilate, murder, and imprison innocent people in his own country! Yup, there's the very essence of liberty right there, yessireeeee...[/sarcasm] :rolleyes:
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hey anyone ever hear of spain comin over and kicking the shit out of nine million native americans? but that was completely different . . . . right?
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Actually, my slightly retarded friend, yes. For one, the US isn't after gold. Secondly, we aren't turning the Iraqi population into slave labor. Third, we aren't trying to turn them all into Catholics. Fourth, we're trying to help preserve any historical sites in Iraq, not demolish them.
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becasue they dont have a friggin dyslexic retard on a power trip in control
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Since when did dyslexia equate to retardation? Watch your step, here, several of my family are dyslexic, and you'd be well advised to not use that as an insult- they're smarter than you'll ever be.
As for people on power trips...people like Saddam?
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine
Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #66574] |
Sat, 14 February 2004 15:22 |
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nuke- have you ever heard of the phrase, putting words in my mouth? if not yo just won the prize for being the best person at it!!!!! hurrrrayyy!!!!!!
yes, we did take saddam away, but right NOW almost all iraquis are totally pissed off at the US. also, how can you say we are trying to preserve sites when we are randomly dropping bombs all over the place??? also, i did say takin saddam was good and i have said that dictators like him need to be stoped in earlier posts!!!! but we are trying to impose democracy on them, when we should be imposing democracy on ourselves!!!!!! it is not a free country anymore at all. all the new, media, etc, ect. are owned by corporations, all the corporations are friends of SURVEY SAYS: GEORGE BUSH N' FRIENDS!! this is leaving about a 2% chance that the newspaper/ station/ channel will be correct, which i snot good!
as for the tank bit, i read it in an interview online unfortunately it was a while back and i do not have the link. i would gladly give it to you if i had it.
i wanna say sorry about the dyslexic comment, but i dont realy feel that i need to because by stating the near truth in that our president is dsylexic i am in no way insulting you family members. that is like you calling democrats blind to the truth, and me being horribly offended (i am legally blind) but if you did take any offense i apologize for i did not intend any to you and yours.
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #66618] |
Sat, 14 February 2004 23:13 |
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Actually, I don't recall ever saying this. Did you read the first three pages where I belted out facts and numbers? That's not blather, it's arguing.
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You're right. You weren't belting out facts and numbers. What I was saying was that all you were saying was that no one else had done any research, gotten any facts, or given you any numbers. Repeatedly. That was your defense for every statement anyone made... Get it now?
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Yes, I do....you're an idiot. All those things you said were just supid, and you didn't post my later replies to them, which would make it look like I didn't know what I was talking about, when in fact I did.
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Way to resort to name-calling. When being involved in an "adult" conversation we don't have to do this. I quoted those posts because what you accused me of was just copying what everyone else said. These posts are clearly the first to mention any of the content in those posts, making your original accusation of my just copying everyone else untrue. I didn't need to post your replies for two reasons, 1) Your replies didn't have anything to do with the reason I was posting them, as explained above. Making the idea that I posted them in a way to make you look like you didn't know what you're talking about irrelevant. 2) If anyone wanted to see those replies all they had to do was look.
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Seems like someone hasn't bothered reading what I post except what others post about it. I already said why I was defending llama man and pimp boy joe, because innocent until proven guilty. Everyone attacking llama man and pimp boy joe only had a same IP and opinions, which was pretty silly in my eyes.
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The thing that you don't get is that one of the people who run this forum called him out on this. They have been doing this for quite some time, so credibility would be on his side. The very first post he stated that both had the same IP address, which most likely implies that these multiple users are the same person. Immediately after that, I pointed out that the two users had the same attitude and sentence structure. Since both users posted with the same attitude, sentence structure, and foul language, naturally people are going to say that this person is the same person. You've been around Renegade for some time I'm sure, at least long enough to see the cheating epidemic. When "PBJ" started claiming he was Llama's intern, like when many cheaters get caught in game and claim they were the accused’s brother, this was the icing on the cake. It's not that no one read your posts, it's just that the evidence was already there.
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Perhaps, but highly unlikely. I doubt any of them work at the psychic friends hotline or personally know pimp boy joe or llama man.
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As I (and Crimson) mentioned previously, they have been running forums much like this for over the past 2 years. In that time they surely see trends in how users who do such a thing act. If anyone can spot someone doing this without actually be standing behind them while they are doing it would be Blazer and Crimson.
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Alright, lets say some cops arrest someone and take him to court. In the court he is charged with murder because both the police officers recall seeing him in the same city on the same day the murder was commited. You think that would ever fly in courts? Hell no. If the opposing argument isn't strong, you don't need anything to back you besides that.
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You're right. That wouldn't fly in court. The difference is this isn't court, and you don't have the right to be innocent until proven guilty. In this domain it's what the administrator says, goes. Again the credibility thing comes up again. Since they have been doing this for some time, when they say two users are more than likely the same person, everyone else tends to believe them. This would also go along with why it's been said you like to argue, since you were going against what was already laid out in front of you.
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Congratulations, you must have not read the thread.
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Congratulations, you must have missed my point. As I said earlier, the whole point of my post was to show you that I haven't just reiterated what others have said. Apparently since you seem to think that you're the only person who has original ideas around here, I don't see why I should be surprised you responded the way you did.
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #66681] |
Sun, 15 February 2004 08:50 |
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majikent you must be the most incompetant stubborn jerk in the entire world!!!! i already admitted that he was not my intern, that he had posted at my house once or twice, and that he made the entire intern bit up!!!!!! what more proof do you want, check some of the other IP addresses (ii have said this before as well) they are not the same because he posted at HIS house. also you keep trying to say the"FOUL language" thing. READ HIS POSTS .. . . OK? STILL WITH ME?? THEN READ MINE . . . again you are the most incompetant and stubborn person on the face of this planet (except george w bush, who is a friggin retard, youd guys get along great!)
what do you want from me a signed confession!!!!????? I TOLD YOU THE TRUTH ALREADY JUST BACK OFF!!!!! ok, I TOLD YOU THE FRIGGIN TRUTH!!!! JUST SHUT UP, I KNOW IT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT YOURSELF TO SEE THAT YOU ARE RIGHT, BUT PLEASE JUST SHUT UP!!! i think YOUR the one who likes to argue/ see himself post, because i have told SO many times that we are different people yet you keep arguing and posting
JUST BACK OFF!!!!!
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #66688] |
Sun, 15 February 2004 10:44 |
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but right NOW almost all iraquis are totally pissed off at the US.
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And how would you know that? Have you asked them? Taken a poll perhaps? The simple fact is that the media goes after the stories that are the most negative- because those are the stories that get them the highest ratings! Naturally, you're going to see the discontent and protesting before you'll see any acts of kindness- just think about how stories are reported in this country: the murder investigation is always reported before the baby being rescued from a burning building, right? Same thing everywhere else. I read a story a few months ago that had in it several different pictures that you would never see on the evening news...they might be surprisingly heart-warming compared to what the media reports.
Another matter- why do you think the Iraqis are even able to protest right now? They were never allowed to do that under Saddam, and all of a sudden, dissent is allowed, even encouraged. That is something which is brand new, something that has been brought about by this invasion; the Iraqi people have discovered a little something folks in the US know as the first amendment. Free speech anyone? They've tried it, and it's pretty obvious that they like the new liberties that have been given to them...otherwise, they wouldn't be protesting at all!
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also, how can you say we are trying to preserve sites when we are randomly dropping bombs all over the place???
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That's a bunch of senseless drivel, and you know it. Even our unguided weapons are accurate to within a foot or two of the target, with the guided ones- yes, even cruise missiles from hundreds of miles away- are accurate to within inches. The days of randomly dropping bombs died with Vietnam; only human error causes such incidents now.
Hell, I'm not aware of any major bombings by US troops since the middle of last year...the only ones that are randomly bombing anything they see are the terrorists with car bombs.
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also, i did say takin saddam was good and i have said that dictators like him need to be stoped in earlier posts!!!! but we are trying to impose democracy on them, when we should be imposing democracy on ourselves!!!!!! it is not a free country anymore at all.
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Explain how. None of our government officials, the sole exception being the supreme court, have life posts. ANY government official (including supreme court justices) can be removed from office if they don't do their job right. ANYONE can criticize the government, for any reason, at any time; you're doing it right now! It's hypocritical to say it isn't a free country when you're excersizing the very rights that make the country free.
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all the new, media, etc, ect. are owned by corporations, all the corporations are friends of SURVEY SAYS: GEORGE BUSH N' FRIENDS!!
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Which has to be the reason why the media is bashing his nuts in! Genius, Watson, genius! Proof please.
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Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #66705] |
Sun, 15 February 2004 11:58 |
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^^ *applauds*
That's one the better posts I've seen in here in a while!
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #66713] |
Sun, 15 February 2004 12:37 |
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oh yes the country is free as in google now wont let you search certain things that are ant government, that is verry free. oh yes bashing his balls in? could you tell me about what exactly?? we have known about his being AWOL and getting paid for YEARS! and now when it does come out NO BIG DEAL. also now i will bet you to draw attention away from this they will start bashing kerry (even though he deserves it) about his drugs, sex affairs, and botox (im not sure if that is how you speel it) when georgie is about the sam thing!!!! betcha didnt know his wife ran someone down when she was nineteen cuz she was drunk, did ya?
also do you know how many times they played dean's "scream speech" about 700 times which makes him look like a total dick, when dianne sawyers noticed he had the mic that filters out the crowd, HE HAD TO SCREAM BECAUSE HE COULDNT EVEN HEAR HIMSELF, and on meet the press theguy who was interviewing him kept blasting him about everything negative, however georgie was a fucking hero, he had stoopped "them evil doers" and saved the world, becasue God said he was supposed to be president. what a bunch of bullshit!!!! and then george here has three wholl books fll of his stupid quote. dianne sawyer has a live interview and he denies every question or turns it away, and then randomly brings up 9-11 when they are talking about something completely different like health care!!!! you must not watch the news bcasue your whole statement is bullshit
as for the iraqui bombing, they are pretty random and worthless, its funny you should talk about the first amendment, because an american reporter asked this newspaper (which started after saddam came down) if they thought america was doing a good job. everyone raised their hands for "no" also, buildings in peoples back yards are getting blown up for no reason whatsoever. no i havent gone over to personally poll iraquis, your lame attempt at sarcasm was pretty crappy i must say, you should stick with your "facts" that anyone can disprove in a second
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #66802] |
Sun, 15 February 2004 22:50 |
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oh yes the country is free as in google now wont let you search certain things that are ant government
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Oh no! Google won't let you search for some things! The world's ending! Opression, opression, whatever shall we do?! 
Google is not government owned. They reserve the right to not show you whatever the hell they don't want to show you. The simple soluton is to use a different search engine!
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oh yes bashing his balls in? could you tell me about what exactly?? we have known about his being AWOL and getting paid for YEARS! and now when it does come out NO BIG DEAL
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Are you even aware of how the National Guard works? It's even less demanding than the reserves are- the required service time per year is less than six weeks total. The six months in question are a fraction of the time he would have had off. The only time when the National Guard becomes a full time job is when it is mobilized- otherwise, it's part time, and not even frequently. In addition to that, odds are that all the people that said they never saw him probably never did- they may have been on post at different times than he was, and even if they were there at the same time, it's not as if everyone would get a chance to see any particular individual anyway!
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also now i will bet you to draw attention away from this they will start bashing kerry (even though he deserves it) about his drugs, sex affairs, and botox (im not sure if that is how you speel it) when georgie is about the sam thing!!!!
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When did anyone mention Kerry? You brought that up, no one else- if people choose to discuss that now, it's because you've just presented it as an issue.
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betcha didnt know his wife ran someone down when she was nineteen cuz she was drunk, did ya?
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What does his wife have to do with anything?
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also do you know how many times they played dean's "scream speech" about 700 times which makes him look like a total dick
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I said it before- the media latches on to anything negative, because that is what gets the best ratings for their network. Good business for them, bad business for Dean, who now seems terminally shafted. It doesn't matter why it happened; it happened, and it destroyed him, that's the way it works. Bush is discovering the same thing; anything he says or does that can be interpreted in a negative way gets splurged all over the TV screens of America.
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however georgie was a fucking hero, he had stoopped "them evil doers" and saved the world, becasue God said he was supposed to be president. what a bunch of bullshit!!!! and then george here has three wholl books fll of his stupid quote.
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One single word sums all that up: Whaaaaaaaaaat? I can almost picture you frothing at the mouth right now; that wasn't an argument, it was a rabid rant. I won't even bother trying to figure out that incoherent mess.
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dianne sawyer has a live interview and he denies every question or turns it away, and then randomly brings up 9-11 when they are talking about something completely different like health care!!!! you must not watch the news bcasue your whole statement is bullshit
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Reality check: Politicians do that. Their business is to make you look at what they've done well, and they will avoid questions they know they don't have answers for. Bush is not quite as eloquent (more like downright horrid) as others in doing that, but the same holds true for any politician. They're trying to sell themselves to the public, which means bringing up the high points in their career, or how they did such-and-such for so-and-so however many years ago. Wait until the political ads get going; you'll see exactly what I mean.
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as for the iraqui bombing, they are pretty random and worthless
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also, buildings in peoples back yards are getting blown up for no reason whatsoever.
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There's just no talking that tabloid crap out of you, is there? The only thing the US military bombs is what the intelligence community tags as a legitimate military target. That means something that could potentially pose a threat, genius, not a random carpet bombing. Every weapon has a specific target when it is used; this is not a "spray-and-pray" blast fest. If something gets blown up, it's been blown up for a good reason.
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its funny you should talk about the first amendment, because an american reporter asked this newspaper (which started after saddam came down) if they thought america was doing a good job. everyone raised their hands for "no"
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And why, exactly, are they allowed to say "no" now? Why can people criticize the handling of postwar Iraq? Go on, say it: Because the US invaded! You don't see the CIA going in and busting reporters' lips for speaking out against us, do you? Hot tip: if we weren't doing a good job, Iraqis would still have to fear for their lives every time they raised their own opinions.
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no i havent gone over to personally poll iraquis, your lame attempt at sarcasm was pretty crappy i must say, you should stick with your "facts" that anyone can disprove in a second
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Funny how you haven't disproved anything yet. Actually, now you're adding issues in what looks like an unsuccessful attempt to draw attention away from the issue that is currently under discussion. Kind of like what you're criticizing Bush for, isn't it?
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine
Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
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