| Microsoft Source Code Leak [message #66235] |
Thu, 12 February 2004 16:43  |
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Dante
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Registered: February 2003
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Yup, just like valve, another company has had a good deal of source code jacked from there internal networks.
So far it looks like Win2k and NT 4.0.
Opinions and thoughts on what microsoft will do about this?
me, personally i think they will push for everyone to upgrade (no big suprise) and that there will be a huge rash of hacking and virus' around the internet exploiting all the newly found bugs & exploits.
Sucky time to be M$.
RenEvo
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| Microsoft Source Code Leak [message #66242] |
Thu, 12 February 2004 17:27  |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Registered: November 2003
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In my opinion, microsoft had it coming to them. They got in to the computer market by basically stealing early Macintosh system software and then spending money to get the courts on their side, and never had to pay back Macintosh for all of the monetary losses, and even now they were going to get broken up because of a monopoly, but the got an appeal to a higher court where the judge found nothing wrong with the whole Microsoft monopoly thing. It's pretty sad how Microsoft Windows is the standard for computers now, when Macintoshs just run better. The bug list for Windows 98 was about 2 pages long.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
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| Microsoft Source Code Leak [message #66249] |
Thu, 12 February 2004 17:44 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
Messages: 1756
Registered: November 2003
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I've just been feeling a bit Mac-slanted latey, since my dad got an AWESOME new G5. The thing renders so insanely fast... And it's a ton cheaper than comparative Windows machines. [If it matters, I didn't get this from MacAddict or wherever, my dad was shopping around and the G5 saved him almost a thousand dollars instead of buying an Alienware with the same capability.
Yes, and hence Bill owning 51% of Apple, doesn't that just stink of monopoly?
Well, money equals power.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| Microsoft Source Code Leak [message #66253] |
Thu, 12 February 2004 17:58 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Registered: November 2003
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You could build a computer better than a 3,000 dollar Aurora Alienware for a quarter of the price? Here's the parts inside the case:
AMD Athlon 64 FX-51 Processor
1GB Registered DDR SDRAM PC-3200
120GB Seagate Serial ATA 8MB Cache
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5950 Ultra 256MB
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS
Big Case
You could get all of this [plus more bits and things] for about $750?
I know there aren't many good games for Macs, but my dad didn''t buy a G5 for games anyway. [Side note - Macs do have HALO, which made the Xbox popular.] He's using it for making high-quality flash movies on chemical functions of the body for a big science website. But for his flash movies, he's using very high-poly 3D animations made in Cinema 4D, annd he needed to upgrade to a fast computer, and a $2200 dual-processor G5 was pretty much the perfect machine.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| Microsoft Source Code Leak [message #66299] |
Thu, 12 February 2004 21:38 |
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IRON FART
Messages: 1989
Registered: September 2003
Location: LOS ANGELES
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besides, who cares, Bill owns 51% of Apple anywho
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He owns 51% of MS.
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Quote from IRC
<[Digital]> get man_fucking_a_car.mpg
<[Digital]> ah fuck wrong window
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| Microsoft Source Code Leak [message #66303] |
Thu, 12 February 2004 22:28 |
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IRON FART
Messages: 1989
Registered: September 2003
Location: LOS ANGELES
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You could build a computer better than a 3,000 dollar Aurora Alienware for a quarter of the price? Here's the parts inside the case:
AMD Athlon 64 FX-51 Processor
1GB Registered DDR SDRAM PC-3200
120GB Seagate Serial ATA 8MB Cache
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5950 Ultra 256MB
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS
Big Case
You could get all of this [plus more bits and things] for about $750?
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The Athalon 64 FX alone costs like 750.
The Alienware prices are about right.
Used to be that way though especially with Dells and Gateway PCs where you could make the pc for one quarter of the price.
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<[Digital]> get man_fucking_a_car.mpg
<[Digital]> ah fuck wrong window
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| Microsoft Source Code Leak [message #66314] |
Fri, 13 February 2004 01:29 |
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Crimson
Messages: 7428
Registered: February 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I don't know... my Fedora Linux workstation at work is pretty damn nifty.
I'm the bawss.
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| Microsoft Source Code Leak [message #66385] |
Fri, 13 February 2004 12:26 |
hareman
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Registered: May 2003
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Super Sucking N00bie is way off base here.
There is no comparison between Macs and windows machines.
I was gonna show the many differences between the Mac (an banana) and an Windows box (a cherry) but I have realized that there really is nothing to debate.
Apple is trying to make an inroad into video compositing. That being said, all the upper end sofware is either Windows/IRIX/Solaris/Unix. The market for 3d apps is still dominated and will be in the short term by those OS. As far as his comment about rendering goes. Windows machines are still far superior because there are more hardware solutions such as onborad rendering farms, OGL boards and the like to make the topend Windows Machines still far and away the leaders for rendering.
It is a Marketing War the lower and middle end users, and Apple is doing a fine job there.
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