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Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61041] Thu, 08 January 2004 10:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nanakasse is currently offline  Nanakasse
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erm.... hill attack cheap, why we dont allow it? because ppl just go up there shot and win mvp even if they dont win the game, just because the want ladder points if they win, and btw they dont give a shit about defence. so thats why we dont like it.

case closed.


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Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61042] Thu, 08 January 2004 10:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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its a cheap chicken shit way to win coz you're not really in any danger the minute you are attacked you just back up and repair.....where is the fun in that? personally i like to "play" a game not destroy it


thats a paradoxical statement if ever I saw one.

Hill camping leads to new tactical awareness. The other team hill camps, you let them destroy some of your buildings. The other team then generally back off on the hill a little, allowing you to take it and make some points for your team. This is one of the few occasions in Renegade that you will see people get angry with team-mates for destroying a building, as tactically you lose the edge by doing this.


Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61044] Thu, 08 January 2004 10:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Personally, I find being up there with a long-range attack is great for defense, too... someone attacks your base and you can swivel around and shoot the offender with a bird's-eye view.

Then again, I'm usually one of those who are taking out the tanks at the top.

I just don't find it good to anally retain the game and remove every tactic that I might find "cheap". All of my rules are centered on map exploits and game exploits.


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Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61045] Thu, 08 January 2004 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not to disagree with Crimson who said if you can't take out the artillery or MRLSs on the hill you deserve to lose, but all you're good for is camping at the hilltop and shooting then you don't deserve to win.

Of course this is coming from someone who almost never buys a vehicle.


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Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61054] Thu, 08 January 2004 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I do enjoy watching the MRL flipped and blows up on the hill when they see a flame tank chasing them or owning artillery and stealth tank on the hill with a MRLS.
Both side need to compete for the hill top to gain advantage on what the enemy is doing in the base. It also requires skill to maintain the hill top as numbers does not gurentee to hold it and makes base vounverable to be attacked from side.

I personally does not see a problem with it.


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Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61055] Thu, 08 January 2004 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"point whoring" is a term used by simple minded idiots who don't know that points is one of 3 ways to win the game.
there are some morons who think that fighting head to head with the enemy in a tank battle or gun battle is the only proper way to play the game. in reality, as long as you aren't cheating, all is fair and if you can score points for your team and keep one or more of the enemy busy by constantly pounding a building, GO FOR IT!


I agree.
Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61074] Thu, 08 January 2004 15:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Two words come to mind..

"Cheap" and "Point whore"

You were probably talking about Black-Cell servers.


those would be three words. Work on your counting skills kthx.


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Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61078] Thu, 08 January 2004 15:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Still it all comes down to the server your playing has rules, and you must abide by the rules or don’t play that server at all. I see no point in complaining about a rule if you can simply go to another server without that rule.

Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61121] Thu, 08 January 2004 19:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I can't believe people are using "it's annoying" as an argument. It isn't your enemies job to make the game convenient for you. Many times buildings can be taken out from the hill. It usually takes at least 1-2 people to repair your damage, so your helping there. Meanwhile you're earning points, which helps the team win if the time runs out. There is absolutely no doubt that this tactic is helpful to the team.

On top of that it is very easy to counter. A basic soldier alone can chase an arty down from there, maybe even stick a C4 on him. It's unbelievably easy to counter, this is a very valid tactic. Someone said something about how hard it is to kill the arties when they secure the hill. Well, if the team works together to secure the hill then they deserve to win.

To sum it up: quit your bitching and play the fucking game.


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Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61122] Thu, 08 January 2004 19:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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from our serverrules:

http://www.k4t.nl/hg.jpg

like crimson said, if you can't handle that tactic, you don't deserve to win.


Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61170] Fri, 09 January 2004 02:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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erm.... hill attack cheap, why we dont allow it? because ppl just go up there shot and win mvp even if they dont win the game, just because the want ladder points if they win, and btw they dont give a shit about defence. so thats why we dont like it.

case closed.


people playing the game they paid for the way they want to play without cheating.
it's morons like you and that server that piss me off about the game...
people who think that their way is the only way to play the game so they make up stupid rules governing everything they don't like whether it is a valid tactic or not.
Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61184] Fri, 09 January 2004 10:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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spotelmo

Nanakasse

erm.... hill attack cheap, why we dont allow it? because ppl just go up there shot and win mvp even if they dont win the game, just because the want ladder points if they win, and btw they dont give a shit about defence. so thats why we dont like it.

case closed.


people playing the game they paid for the way they want to play without cheating.
it's morons like you and that server that piss me off about the game...
people who think that their way is the only way to play the game so they make up stupid rules governing everything they don't like whether it is a valid tactic or not.


Hello! You dont have to play on that server if you dont want to. :rolleyes:


Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61190] Fri, 09 January 2004 12:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nanakasse

erm.... hill attack cheap, why we dont allow it? because ppl just go up there shot and win mvp even if they dont win the game, just because the want ladder points if they win, and btw they dont give a shit about defence. so thats why we dont like it.

case closed.


people playing the game they paid for the way they want to play without cheating.
it's morons like you and that server that piss me off about the game...
people who think that their way is the only way to play the game so they make up stupid rules governing everything they don't like whether it is a valid tactic or not.


Hello! You dont have to play on that server if you dont want to. :rolleyes:


Hello!
i don't play on that server. that doesn't mean i can't make my opinions of idiots known.
Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61242] Fri, 09 January 2004 18:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I for one agree that shooting on top of the hill is a valid tactic. Why did the map designers put a hill between the 2 bases? Does that hill act like a wall to avoid direct confrontation? another path for attacking the base? Why is there a tunnel beneath the hill? Are tanks supposed to be on that hill? What about infantry? Why are there rocks?

The map designers put a hill between the bases for a purpose. The bases are so close that defenses would rip out anything they see. If that hill was supposed to be a wall they shouldve made that hill INACCESSIBLE. Why did they make that hill accessible? ITS FOR TANKS TO ROLL OUT AND FLATTEN THE ENEMY BASE. If that hill is for tanks then theres another way to attack the opposing base. A tunnel is placed to the convenience of infantry since base defenses can hit particular areas on the hill. If that hill wasnt supposed to be used by tanks or infantry why are there some big rocks that can COVER a vehicle from the base defenses. If those rocks are meant for infantry why are those rocks so big that it can cover a tank?

It is so stupid that why should particular servers not allow shooting from the hill on Hourglass when the way the map was designed suggests doing that.


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Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61243] Fri, 09 January 2004 18:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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:rolleyes: *Infinint gets tierd from rolling eyes so much*
Its just a simple rule that requires you top use differnt tactices to win the game, just lke any other rule like no B2B, infantry only, snipeing only, no becones.


Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61253] Fri, 09 January 2004 18:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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certain things are exploits of the maps.
for instance, b2b on islands, i always thought it was fine since it was built in until i read from a ww developer that it was unintentional. beacons on field, we got mixed signals from devinoch on delphi... one said it was fine the other said no. then the devs tried to fix it(with disasterous results) which told me it was not intentional.
when it comes to a normal game(not snipe only etc.) all non exploit tactics should be allowed in my opinion.
Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61254] Fri, 09 January 2004 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I never find mobarts/mrls on the hill anything more than a minor irritant. If nobody tries to stop them, yes they will mass up there and eventually either take out a building or just whore enough points to win, but from within the base, a Havoc or Sakura can easily pick them off, and if they have eng support a run up there with a patch or lcg will dispatch them quickly enough Smile
Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61258] Fri, 09 January 2004 18:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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if the other team cant get them off the hill then they deserve to loose.
its very simple to keep them from getting any serious dmg done from there.


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Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61261] Fri, 09 January 2004 19:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It is exactly the same as the enemy attacking from any other place.
If you can't keep the enemy from taking the field on C&C Field then they deserve to get points from attacking the harvester.
If you can't stop infantry from getting in the tunnels and launching rockets at your base they deserve to get points from hitting your buildings.

I can't see what the big deal is... it's a war, you should do anything possible to win.


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Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61264] Fri, 09 January 2004 19:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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erm.... hill attack cheap, why we dont allow it? because ppl just go up there shot and win mvp even if they dont win the game, just because the want ladder points if they win, and btw they dont give a shit about defence. so thats why we dont like it.

case closed.


people playing the game they paid for the way they want to play without cheating.
it's morons like you and that server that piss me off about the game...
people who think that their way is the only way to play the game so they make up stupid rules governing everything they don't like whether it is a valid tactic or not.


First i didnt make the rule, 2nd AS A MOD I HAVE TO GO BY THE RULES, 3rd you are the moron you dont know me , btw why dont you go and kill someone out there in real life? ohh yeah i forgot goverment have rules, no one told you to buy the game with a gun if you dont like it get out then and dont come back.


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Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61266] Fri, 09 January 2004 19:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello!
i don't play on that server. that doesn't mean i can't make my opinions of idiots known


4.- like i said you dont know me.


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Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61297] Fri, 09 January 2004 21:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

Hello!
i don't play on that server. that doesn't mean i can't make my opinions of idiots known


4.- like i said you dont know me.


i know enough to know that i think you're an idiot.
Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61298] Fri, 09 January 2004 21:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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*Infinint throws flame gernade and leaves...*
I think this topic is done and should be locked, its going to turn into a flame war... not that it already has


Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61327] Sat, 10 January 2004 08:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Its fun to get a havoc and stand against the wall back between the ref and the power, and snipe the barrels of the pointwhoring mobarts on the hill....makes them so frustrated Smile


lol, i do that sometimes.

usually no one gets to attack the other base anyway, it just ends up a battle for the hill between the arties and mrls.

I was also in a server on Islands before where they added a giant billboard that said "No b2b on this server," that was attached to the part right above the tunnels on the gdi side, so it got in the way of the mrls hitting the HoN.


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Hourglass - Someone explain this to me [message #61328] Sat, 10 January 2004 08:14 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Hello!
i don't play on that server. that doesn't mean i can't make my opinions of idiots known


4.- like i said you dont know me.


i know enough to know that i think you're an idiot.


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