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The complete opposite of cheats. . . [message #59287] Fri, 26 December 2003 21:46 Go to next message
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Has anyone ever thought of making something the complete opposite of cheats and then saying that they were cheats so that when the n00bs installed them they had a disadvantage? I just thought of making small heads, low damage, ETC but I don't know how so . . . How do I import .w3d files into Gmax then resize them? I already have the .w3d importer installed but when I go to file import I can't select .w3d as the file type to import. Also how would I modify the damages that vehicles and weapons and stuff do? All I know about that is I would have to do it in level edit then export as a mod package then extract the object file out of the mod package right? If I can do this I will release it when I have it done but right now I don't really know how to do any of it.

The complete opposite of cheats. . . [message #59313] Sat, 27 December 2003 07:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Make a "cheat" that when someone installs it it redirects all shortcuts to .exe's to a small program that displays a random one of the following: realisticly made 'blue screen of death'; an error message saying something like 'Unable to load video drivers'; to the '[random dll name] has caused an error in [random dll name]', etc.

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The complete opposite of cheats. . . [message #59315] Sat, 27 December 2003 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And when he opens renegade (by the exe),he will get a nice "small head" and no damage thingy Very Happy
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Yaa, that would be really funny and all, but the thing is I don't know how to resize the head .w3d files, and I don't know how to modify the damage and stuff, so if someone could tell me or send me a link to a tutorial or something that would be good. I will release it after I am done with it just so that you will know I am not doing this to make cheats.

The complete opposite of cheats. . . [message #59328] Sat, 27 December 2003 10:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hmmm mabey we could get help to make some free domains that we could host just little sites on to host this thing it cant be a big site bcause no one will download it hmmm. Good idea though how baout make it were deletes there files infront of there eyes then flashes there BIOS then stops the Processer fan and 90 seconds later there P4 is meleted all over there mother board..... GOOD IDEA Very Happy

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The complete opposite of cheats. . . [message #59418] Sun, 28 December 2003 09:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SuperFlyingEngi is currently offline  SuperFlyingEngi
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Quote:

when someone installs it it redirects all shortcuts to .exe's to a small program


Expanding on Sir Phoenixx's idea:

Still redirect the shortcuts to a program, but when you load the program, it displays this error message:

"Renegade cannot load because .dsd directory cannot load. Please send your online account screenname and this error message to [e-mail address I will elaborate on] to fix this problem"

[Now, i am led to believe that Renegade has no .dsd directory...the plan relies on this]

So someone sets up a fake email account that people who downloaded the "cheat" send their error to. Now, the person with this email account checks it, and when they see someone send them that error message, send a notice or something to all the big game servers to ban that account. This would keep potential cheaters off servers, while avoiding hordes of incoherent angry people who got their computers melted.


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The complete opposite of cheats. . . [message #59420] Sun, 28 December 2003 09:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i could get that E-mail account... Very Happy

something@all-out.co.uk Smile

p.s. i could also make the proggy too Very Happy
The complete opposite of cheats. . . [message #59496] Sun, 28 December 2003 14:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lol, could always make a quick layout for the site Smile

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The complete opposite of cheats. . . [message #59497] Sun, 28 December 2003 15:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok then, let's do this. . . If I can get the w3d importer to work I'll do the "Small Heads" if I can figure out how to modify damage and stuff I'll do the damage one and speed one to. Anyone know who I should contact about the w3d importer, and isn't there a w3d imorter for 3DS Max 5? If so I have 3DS Max 5.

The complete opposite of cheats. . . [message #59501] Sun, 28 December 2003 15:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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W3d importer for 3ds max 5? There is an old topic about it:

http://www.renegadeforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=8346&sid=e76c48877d9432d430402a53fee00c61

I suggest maybe dante to contact about the W3d importer.
The complete opposite of cheats. . . [message #59515] Sun, 28 December 2003 15:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Instead of giving people small heads, low damage, etc., I'd rather just have them banned. Then they won't be inclined to download that actually work. Besides, with small heads, it'll take them absolute tops 5 minutes to find out they got a bad mod...Then they start cheating with ones that work...And I don't like cheaters...

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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The complete opposite of cheats. . . [message #59520] Sun, 28 December 2003 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But what if cheaters and hackers DO slip around renguard which I highly doubt but would it be possibly to make some sort of high light cheat?

What I mean is make a sort of "alert" mod and say it is a cheat, and that cheat stands out to rengaurd,

e.g. Renguard is a security camera in the corner of a 1.5 metre cubicle and saddam come's in with a blinding lantern on his head that the securety camera can't resist to look at and maybe...how do you say......call security.

In other words a mod that is called a cheat that renguard basically spots in about a second and the person who is using that mod is immediately kicked and even banned. Is that possible?
The complete opposite of cheats. . . [message #59526] Sun, 28 December 2003 16:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SuperFlyingEngi is currently offline  SuperFlyingEngi
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I'm sure you could make something work by pointing out people to RenGuard... - I think it's personally a better alternative than my own, because no one has to spend their time checking an e-mail account, and it still bans people.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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The complete opposite of cheats. . . [message #59537] Sun, 28 December 2003 16:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
spreegem is currently offline  spreegem
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Just registered a free domain Smile But if we do make several small sites with fake cheats it will decrease the posibility to find the real cheats because they will show up in search enigines as well with the other sites and maybe after visiting several sites downloading the cheats that don't work several times they will give up. . . http://www.rencheat.tk that the domain I registered I'm not gonna do anything more than that untill we actually get something made.

The complete opposite of cheats. . . [message #59540] Sun, 28 December 2003 16:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Be sure to put keywords like "multiplayer cheats" and such throughout the site to increase the amount of times it will show up on search engines. To make it show up on Google, make maybe four sites with those keywords all through them and link them all together. This is because Google's search engine works by organizing sites in order by keywords and by how many links they have to other sites with the same keywords, or something similar to this. They had a whole article in The New Yorker about it, but I don't remember the exact thing...

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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The complete opposite of cheats. . . [message #59546] Sun, 28 December 2003 16:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
spreegem is currently offline  spreegem
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I I already did the keywords when I registered the domain. . . is the domain working for any of you because it isn't for me, could it just be because I just registered it? I already activated it as well. What if I were to make 10 identicle sites and link hem all to one another, register 10 free domains, register 10 free webhosts? Would google put up all ten, or just one since they would be exactly the same except 1 link on each?

The complete opposite of cheats. . . [message #59549] Sun, 28 December 2003 16:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I know this is a stupid question but what about those bots in the chat rooms of WOL? They always advertise cheats, aimbots and all sorts. How do you get those things? Becuase they would come in handy.
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Well, Google would probably put at least one up, if I understand their system correctly...but Google often omits results highly similar and/or identical to ones it found...So make ten sites and it will only show one...But if you do make the site give it a snazzy layout and say things in big letters like
"SUPER CHEATS YOU WON'T FIND ANYWHERE ELSE"
"SHOW OTHER GAMERS WHO THE REAL n00b IS"
"THINK UP QUICK COMEBACKS TO MAKE FUN OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY SAY YOU'RE CHEATING"
"BECOME HERALDED IN THE COMMUNITY FOR BEING AN EXPERT PLAYER"

...and more excruciating lies..although maybe you should put in a comeback section. That wouldnt be too hard, just make a list of things like "Go eat a cellphone, n00b"


"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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The complete opposite of cheats. . . [message #60072] Thu, 01 January 2004 04:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
spreegem is currently offline  spreegem
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Ok, I know how to modify damage and stuf now, LOL I figure it out in just a few minutes in level edit, I was just to lazy to look before. I found how to edit damage, speed, cost, the distance you see stealth units at ETC. So should I do reduced damage, low speed, and reduced sight range for seeing stealth units and then make everything stealth so you can't see anyting? Should I have all these be seperate, then have one with all of these together? I already was messing around a tiny bit and edited a few things, but I just wanted your input on what specifically i should change. Should I also change vehicles? After I get these made I wil be realeasing them ok, don't worry I'll try and get something done today, this shouldn't take to long to do. Aprime, you said you could make a site layout . . . I could use that after I get these made if you want to make it, or if your not to busy or something. http://www.rencheat.tk Smile

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I got an even more sinister Idea. Instead of big heads, make a HUGE invisible collision box around them for projectiles. Very Happy It'll be like they have huge heads and bodys and they'll never see it or suspect a thing. MWAHAHAHAHHA Too sinister I imagine but I MWAHAHAHAHHA at is MWAHAHHAness

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Yes, but you can't have it around just the character the cheater is. It would effect all character that were modified to have the huge collisions effect to have it, not just if you are them only you have it, if I set the nod soldier to have a huge collision all of the other nod soldiers including the one that the cheater is would have the huge collision effect. And then the next game suppose the cheater is on GDI, he will be able to hit all of the nod soldiers easily. . . so that wouldn't work out to well. But if you were to do the opposite like Laeubi told me in a PM, make the heads bigger but the collision smaler they will think they have big head, but they can't hit anything. THANK YOU LAEUBI

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i dont htink its a good idea for u to be sayin all this plan out in the open peopel will see it and simply not download it dont u think??? ...my plan is better just make it were they download it it flashes there bios stops there processor fan and there p4 melts all over there mother board???? lol Razz

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its not a good idea to make it do somthing to there comp....lets say someone wants to know what kind of cheats there are and they download it and it will crash there comp....then we have a big mess.
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So, they shouldn't have downloaded the cheats in the first place. LOL I wouldn't know how to make it do anything to their com anyways. Maybe after I start taking computer programming next semester at school in about 4 weeks. . . and after I finish that class when school ends in mid June. . . maybe then I will be able to do something to their computer, but untill then I can't do anything except the opposite of cheats and making them get mad. I can't get the "head hacks" to work, but everything else is working fine soon I will release them. Soon meaning a day or two.

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I have an idea. Instead of modifying the game how about we screw with windows. We make a program that eats bandwidth on a time curve. Longer they play... worse it gets. It could also put in a little interupt in their mouse that either cuts the info every 1/4 second or adds a little random x movement to screw up their aim. Have it modify the registry by putting a tag to load it up (first it needs to copy itself to a safe directory) with windows.

I beleive that will discourage any cheater from ever downloading a cheat again. And in addition to several sites have several different kinds of cheats. Some people search for them by name not by the general topic


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