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| St0rm.Net [message #453256] |
Sun, 04 September 2011 20:00  |
Wilo
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So, I just wanna have everyone take the time to post what their problem is with St0rm.net.
You can flame and insult me all you want, but all I ask is you provide a reason for your insults and attacks and back it up.
So, go ahead.
Tell me whats wrong with my community so that I may attempt to change it for the better and maybe have a chance to change your mind about us.
(If your reason involves being banned or the way we handled a ban please note that you can't really judge us on that due to the fact that catching cheaters and banning people there is always a risk you can ban someone who is innocent.)
(I also ask that if a staff member did something to you please understand that though St0rm.Net staff do represent St0rm.net in a way, I can't control other humans actions and I can only apologize for it and try to make it right.)
(If a moderator or staff member was caught cheating and doing something like attacking another community or hacking note this: This is the internet, we can only put so much trust into someone and you will never know if they are truly telling you the truth or not.)
I also want to acknowledge that yes, at one point in the past I was an immature kid and didn't handle situations well. Times have changed, stop living in the past. Give me a chance to prove to you that things are different, not that I need your acceptance but it would just make life easier for me.
So please, let me know now.
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| Re: St0rm.Net [message #453263 is a reply to message #453256] |
Sun, 04 September 2011 21:22  |
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| liquidv2 wrote on Sun, 04 September 2011 21:12 |
some people feel like st0rm is renegade with training wheels
some people feel the mods don't know what they're talking about
other people are MDKENGLAND and on a mission to see you burn at the stake
i think st0rm has a somewhat militaristic hierarchy and that forcing the members to be on teamspeak and do other things keeps them involved and informed - there are pluses and minuses to that
i don't like that a marathon game can be won by a vote, especially when it's by points
a team can be down a building but have more points and win, which seems silly
despite what people think st0rm puts out a product that creates an inviting atmosphere to a large percentage of renegade, which is why its ren servers still prosper after all these years
if it were truly a terrible place or half as bad as some people believe it would have fallen to pieces long ago
i haven't the slightest idea why you made this topic but how's it going
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1. Please explain a bit more what you mean by Renegade with Training wheels?
2. I can understand why you feel that way about the mods, half the time I feel like they have no clue either. The best I can do is work on them and ride them harder to be better at their job.
3. MDK has mental issues.
4. We do not force our members to be on Teamspeak, just our Moderators when they are in game, the 100+ people that sit on the teamspeak are from other games and also renegade.
5. The problem with a marathon game is I have seen them go on for 6 - 7 hours, When 4.0 is fully released the poll gameover will be removed.
6. I am good, Just feel like getting some feedback.
Also @GEORGE ZIMMER Thank you for at least replying. Show me you took the time to troll me or attempt to.
Regards,
Wilo S.
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| Re: St0rm.Net [message #453265 is a reply to message #453256] |
Sun, 04 September 2011 21:31 |
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Um, I'm not into the whole Renepolotics, but when I was a regular there in probably 2008-2009, I fucking loved your server. The new maps server was the shit. Plus, I loved the weapons plug-ins and ranking system you guys had.
Too bad my rank got reset >:
The road I cruise is a bitch now, baby.
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| Re: St0rm.Net [message #453267 is a reply to message #453265] |
Sun, 04 September 2011 21:34 |
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| Glock wrote on Sun, 04 September 2011 21:31 |
Um, I'm not into the whole Renepolotics, but when I was a regular there in probably 2008-2009, I fucking loved your server. The new maps server was the shit. Plus, I loved the weapons plug-ins and ranking system you guys had.
Too bad my rank got reset >:
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Well I am glad to hear that, its sad I have to sometimes wipe the rank, but that prob wont happen again, and with scripts 4.0 I hope to expand with my AOW and making it more AOW based but with New maps and More features to balance the game.
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Wilo
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| Re: St0rm.Net [message #453268 is a reply to message #453263] |
Sun, 04 September 2011 21:39 |
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1. Please explain a bit more what you mean by Renegade with Training wheels?
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1000 starting credits, extra credits a second, faster harv with increased load
turrets everywhere, upgrades people can buy with commands, parachutes, all kinds of things that make people feel like benny hill music should be playing
it makes some people happy but not everyone
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2. I can understand why you feel that way about the mods, half the time I feel like they have no clue either. The best I can do is work on them and ride them harder to be better at their job.
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i didn't say i feel that way, i'm just letting you know what i've heard and impressions i've gotten from what other people have said
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3. MDK has mental issues.
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he should probably be behind bars, or possibly caged
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4. We do not force our members to be on Teamspeak, just our Moderators when they are in game, the 100+ people that sit on the teamspeak are from other games and also renegade.
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makes sense, and they're not forced to talk or anything
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5. The problem with a marathon game is I have seen them go on for 6 - 7 hours, When 4.0 is fully released the poll gameover will be removed.
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is that not the point of a marathon? the longest your games go is an hour if the polls get postponed 15 minutes (since they start at 45)
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| Re: St0rm.Net [message #453270 is a reply to message #453256] |
Sun, 04 September 2011 22:04 |
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I don't really have any serious problems with st0rm. Its mostly the staff there.. I hate how some of them seem to revolve their life around st0rm.net they talk about it like that... "St0rm.net" They get stressed over things happening there... I just don't think they should get stressed over a Community. People should be grown enough to have fun without stressing folks out. And them some staff I think are blatant idiot retards but then again they usually arent american  SO idk that might be just how it is overthere lol Others i love like my secret lover FreakySt0rm. The strictness is a bother, i think thats what liquid was trying to say.. The militaristic atmosphere is what makes me unsettled. I like Wilo and hes cool hes like me in some ways. But some of his staff arent great, but i get along with most of them for now. 
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| Re: St0rm.Net [message #453272 is a reply to message #453263] |
Sun, 04 September 2011 22:25 |
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| Wilo wrote on Sun, 04 September 2011 22:22 |
4. We do not force our members to be on Teamspeak, just our Moderators when they are in game, the 100+ people that sit on the teamspeak are from other games and also renegade.
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*ahem*
Might want to add something to that.."or if it's shai not wanting to be on TS that particular second out of the day". 
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I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.
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| Re: St0rm.Net [message #453274 is a reply to message #453256] |
Sun, 04 September 2011 22:55 |
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I was being sarcastic...but I can if you prefer.
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:38 |
I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.
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| Re: St0rm.Net [message #453282 is a reply to message #453256] |
Sun, 04 September 2011 23:52 |
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1. The backups suck and ruin the entire gameplay.
2. The turrets suck and turret spam is a huge problem. (Especially when beacons are placed underneath them)
3. The army received at the start of a new map is bullshit because no-life players are being rewarded, while casual players are getting a disadvantage over them. Also this makes the game too easy.
4. Your moderators are a bunch of douchebags. They can't take criticism and mute you for doing so.
5. You try to run 3 servers, while only 1 of them is actively played on and is very laggy (sfps drops which can probably be solved by taking down the less-populated server).
6. Mods banning from IRC without knowing what the in-game situation is.
7. Rank system is shit, just allow everyone to buy weapons, not only the no-life players.
8. Your community is not very inviting to new players as you do not listen to them. If a new player suspects a st0rm regular of "cheating" he is most likely told: "He's not cheating, he's been here for a long time."
9. Your community is not flexible, it's not very open to suggestions from outside.
I can add more, but I'll leave it to this for now.
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| Re: St0rm.Net [message #453284 is a reply to message #453282] |
Mon, 05 September 2011 00:16 |
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| Spyder wrote on Sun, 04 September 2011 23:52 |
1. The backups suck and ruin the entire gameplay.
2. The turrets suck and turret spam is a huge problem. (Especially when beacons are placed underneath them)
3. The army received at the start of a new map is bullshit because no-life players are being rewarded, while casual players are getting a disadvantage over them. Also this makes the game too easy.
4. Your moderators are a bunch of douchebags. They can't take criticism and mute you for doing so.
5. You try to run 3 servers, while only 1 of them is actively played on and is very laggy (sfps drops which can probably be solved by taking down the less-populated server).
6. Mods banning from IRC without knowing what the in-game situation is.
7. Rank system is shit, just allow everyone to buy weapons, not only the no-life players.
8. Your community is not very inviting to new players as you do not listen to them. If a new player suspects a st0rm regular of "cheating" he is most likely told: "He's not cheating, he's been here for a long time."
9. Your community is not flexible, it's not very open to suggestions from outside.
I can add more, but I'll leave it to this for now.
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1. They are an aspect to the game that some players like, as there are many renegade servers still out there that offer a "Original Feel" to the game you can always play there. I am trying to get players who want a different aspect of the game, its like if people came from my server and said: "Your server doesn't give enough stuff to the players, you don't reward people who have played for a long time, you don't do this and that". Not every server is supposed to be the same, I respect that you don't like the features but you also don't have to play in the server.
2. Beacons have been blocked from being under turrets for a while now and the Turret spam has been resolved and limited to 3 Turrets at any time on the map per team. When you have a 25 vs 25 going on they don't last that long. Also please see 1.
3. The Stipends are to reward our users for playing, it's also an incentive to get players to play more and earn a higher rank and more items. I do admit the rank system needs an overhaul big time and I will do doing that with 4.0 coming out.
4. If you can please find me an instance where they muted you for voicing your opinion that is against our policy, but it is not against our policy to mute someone who is flaming and causing a drama in a topic and not handling it like a mature adult. I do take responsibility for my staff actions but please note I can't be everywhere at once and I have a lot to deal with as St0rm is not just Renegade. I also maintain a job at a high level career position as a Project Manager for a Construction Contractor Firm. This does not excuse my responsibilities as a community leader but it does hinder my ability to manage a lot of smaller issues. I do try to surround myself with a good staff so that they can assist but you have to understand it's hard to find good help.
5. I do run 3 servers and they do not lag because of each other. The main AOW still has shitty code from SSGM 2.0.2 that I wrote and never fixed, this causes many memory leaks and issues, and with SSGM 4.0 coming out I have not bothered to fix it. I have 8 cores all handling different games, 1 per a core. I am sorry if the server lags but its not going to be solved by shutting down 2 other servers. I will say this that I will be ceasing support for the Co-Op and Ultra server shortly and switching to a pure AOW server.
6. The issue with moderators banning from irc has also been resolved as we have had a change in staff and rules. The rule of having all staff who is in game or being involved in in-game actions has been in place now for a while and has solved the issue of miss communication. Please note that almost every moderator out there can't be perfect and is only human.
7. As I said, the rank system will be redone very shortly.
8 All communities are like this, they protect their users, if I walked into MP Gaming and said Zunnie cheated he would not undoubtedly be defended by his staff and friends. Yes, St0rm has had cheaters in its staff, but almost all communities have had this problem, and if you think yours hasn't, then you are a fool. We can only do our best with the tools at hand. Hopefully 4.0 will solve a lot of these problems.
9. We take a lot of suggestions in everyday, and though not a lot get through we do listen. You have to understand, we have to do whats best for our population and users. And how can you say this when I placed this post here to get feedback, I honestly didn't have to come here and post, but I wanted to see what people had to say to improve the image at St0rm.
Please feel free to ask more questions or comments, I welcome them.
Regards,
Wilo S.
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| Re: St0rm.Net [message #453286 is a reply to message #453285] |
Mon, 05 September 2011 00:28 |
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| Caveman wrote on Mon, 05 September 2011 00:23 |
From my experience St0rm is just way over modded... I haven't played there in a while (a year or so) but when I did I really didn't enjoy it...
I can't comment on your staff because I haven't been banned but from what other people have told me some of them are power trippy and if you're better then them (I don't have any names atm) then you will be banned for cheating.
Whether thats true I don't know its just what I heard.
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I doubt that they would be able to ban you just because your better, we have a rule that we can not ban unless we have BIATCH or Video Proof of you cheating.
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| Re: St0rm.Net [message #453288 is a reply to message #453287] |
Mon, 05 September 2011 00:33 |
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| Caveman wrote on Mon, 05 September 2011 00:31 |
| Wilo wrote on Mon, 05 September 2011 08:28 |
| Caveman wrote on Mon, 05 September 2011 00:23 |
From my experience St0rm is just way over modded... I haven't played there in a while (a year or so) but when I did I really didn't enjoy it...
I can't comment on your staff because I haven't been banned but from what other people have told me some of them are power trippy and if you're better then them (I don't have any names atm) then you will be banned for cheating.
Whether thats true I don't know its just what I heard.
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I doubt that they would be able to ban you just because your better, we have a rule that we can not ban unless we have BIATCH or Video Proof of you cheating.
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Right ok but that doesn't always work... Lets say we were on Mesa and I was GDI with a deadeye around the side (by the refs) and you had a video of me killing sbhs from what you'd say is an impossible distance.. You'd ban me right?
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We would take into consideration lag, ssgm logs, and other evidence, but it would have to be a few times though, we don't ban off of 1 event.
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| Re: St0rm.Net [message #453289 is a reply to message #453256] |
Mon, 05 September 2011 00:56 |
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I personally never played on Storm because your "extras" aren't appealing to me at all. But if you have players, then I suppose they are to others.
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: St0rm.Net [message #453294 is a reply to message #453256] |
Mon, 05 September 2011 01:22 |
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St0rm was pretty playable in the beginning, but then they decided to add the backups, turrets and rank-based shop/starting credits. The old st0rm, when Xphaze was still in the air too, was way better than what it is now.
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| Re: St0rm.Net [message #453295 is a reply to message #453270] |
Mon, 05 September 2011 01:37 |
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| Cronus wrote on Mon, 05 September 2011 07:04 |
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And them some staff I think are blatant idiot retards but then again they usually arent american
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Nice hidden flame there Cronus... Think that if all nationalities would be represented equally ingame, there would be just as many Americans being retards as other nationalities.
Oh wait, might be a bit more because other nations have a bit less of a tendency to be a fuckwad and be so fucking arrogant about their own country. Let me make it clear that I can understand some levels of nationalism and I do understand that people love the country in which they live (otherwise I suppose they would try and move away), but why pretend that people from your country are generally less retarded than from other countries?
You might be better able to understand them, but that's an integral part of cross-cultural communication. There are certainly differences between Americans and Europeans, and yes, you'll probably understand the American better, but the same is true for Europeans talking to other Europeans.
That's just a part of the way humans tick. One can go ignorantly ranting about "them" being stupid, or one can take a better look and see that whatever they're doing might seem odd to you, but might not be so odd after you investigated them.
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| Re: St0rm.Net [message #453303 is a reply to message #453295] |
Mon, 05 September 2011 02:42 |
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| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 05 September 2011 01:37 |
| Cronus wrote on Mon, 05 September 2011 07:04 |
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And them some staff I think are blatant idiot retards but then again they usually arent american
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Nice hidden flame there Cronus... Think that if all nationalities would be represented equally ingame, there would be just as many Americans being retards as other nationalities.
Oh wait, might be a bit more because other nations have a bit less of a tendency to be a fuckwad and be so fucking arrogant about their own country. Let me make it clear that I can understand some levels of nationalism and I do understand that people love the country in which they live (otherwise I suppose they would try and move away), but why pretend that people from your country are generally less retarded than from other countries?
You might be better able to understand them, but that's an integral part of cross-cultural communication. There are certainly differences between Americans and Europeans, and yes, you'll probably understand the American better, but the same is true for Europeans talking to other Europeans.
That's just a part of the way humans tick. One can go ignorantly ranting about "them" being stupid, or one can take a better look and see that whatever they're doing might seem odd to you, but might not be so odd after you investigated them.
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I don't know what you call a flame, but what i said is just me being honest... and its an inside insult towards one particular mod, and Wilo should have understood that. I wouldn't expect you to
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| Re: St0rm.Net [message #453305 is a reply to message #453256] |
Mon, 05 September 2011 03:10 |
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Even though I dont play REN anymore like all things they must evolve. A 10yr old game cant survive on just brass tacs. I think what has been done to expand gameplay and bring out the deeper side of REN is at St0rm.
nuff said...
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