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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44617]

Mon, 01 September 2003 20:04

QuienEsSuPapa
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I was just wondering, are you going to release a list of the files that ARE ok to be in your Data folder when RenGuard scans it? I am asking this because there are a number of people that I know of, myself included, that are using a file call hud_sniper.dds which removes the green and black area when they are in scope mode. I have not and never will cheat on this game, its too much fun. I just dont want to get banned from the server(s) I play in because I have this file. Its not as if it aims or pulls the trigger for you. I know there are people out there using much worse then this who wont be affected by the program (at least not yet) and as such wont be kicked/banned. Ah well, just wondering.

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44622]

Mon, 01 September 2003 21:55

Crimson
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mac wants that file to be blacklisted... but it might be open to debate.

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44623]

Mon, 01 September 2003 22:18

YSLMuffins
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There are also skins that supposedly change the color tint of the scope...

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44626]

Mon, 01 September 2003 22:31

Falconxl
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I have a question. Will the stealth_effect.dds be blacklisted?

I personally think it should since it will eliminate the use of super high visibility stealth skins.

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44628]

Mon, 01 September 2003 22:35

Crimson
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The original intent was to stop the damage mod and bigheads, but it's safe to assume that all skins will be evalutated (if they haven't already).

I'm in upstate New York on vacation this week until Thursday. When I get back, I'll get forums up on RenGuard.com Smile

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44630]

Mon, 01 September 2003 23:09

QuienEsSuPapa
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i just dont want to be banned for using it, so could ya make it public knowledge as to whether it is or not when you u know? A debate over the file wouldnt be a bad idea. Shocked

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44649]

Tue, 02 September 2003 03:22

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If you are so worried about being banned...here is an idea...GET RID OF IT.

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44651]

Tue, 02 September 2003 03:40

laeubi
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If you are so worried about being banned...here is an idea...GET RID OF IT.

Peace out,

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Where do you get THOSE cool ideas? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
A list would be cool, because I have a skin for nearlyeverything, jsut too add some little extras like Clan icons and such Very Happy

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I think a good ide would be, if a sever can settup if he wnats to reject files or not, eg, the hud thing.

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44653]

Tue, 02 September 2003 03:45

DaveGMM
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Sorry, no way, uh-uh are you allowing the Tint and Scope remover skin to be allowed.

It gives people who have it a great, GREAT advantage over the people who don't. They can see snipers the whole screen away, other's can't.

I will personally ban anyone on Crimson79 that admits they use it.

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44665]

Tue, 02 September 2003 05:00

Doitle
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Well what about me, I have one with a different reticle. Also, in real life, not every sniper has the same scope. Do you think that in WW2 the Germans and the Allies were using the same Scope? The US And Vietnam? I don't think so. I really hope that this Renguard thing doesnt get out of hand. This is beginning to sound like not as great of an idea as perceived. If it gets rid of the main few cheats then that's great. But if it starts looking through at other stuff and blacklisting people for smaller offenses... Well I don't approve much of that at all. I have many many many modified skins. I dont have modified black hands or a sniper scope without the field of green, but I do have a bright green mountain dew orca, or a Pepsi Flame Tank which are slightly easier to see merely because they look so cool (self-promotion; self-made skins Very Happy

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) Now who's not to say that Renguard could be designed to look through and find every skin in the game thats easier to see than others and could give someone an unfair advantage by comparing brightness values to the original or some such formula? That's what I'm afraid of.

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44682]

Tue, 02 September 2003 05:51

laeubi
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Sorry, no way, uh-uh are you allowing the Tint and Scope remover skin to be allowed.

It gives people who have it a great, GREAT advantage over the people who don't. They can see snipers the whole screen away, other's can't.

I will personally ban anyone on Crimson79 that admits they use it.

I never use the scope Cool

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But I have added a nice GDI/Nod logo to the black part of the skin, thats just look a bit better Very Happy

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44695]

Tue, 02 September 2003 07:32

PiMuRho
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Doitle: to avoid your problem, it should be left up to the server operator to decide how strictly they want to enforce things.

For example, clan matches should be run as "pure" - no modified skins/models at all, whereas your average public server would just want the anti-cheat settings.

Problem solved!

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44737]

Tue, 02 September 2003 11:57

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Removing the green tint from the scope is not cheating, it is just having a slight advantage, you either hit them or you don`t, it doesn`t pull the trigger for you and it doesn`t auto aim,i see no problem using it as it has only a slight extra advantage.

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44740]

Tue, 02 September 2003 11:58

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And as the ladder no longer works, there is nothing to get worked up about.

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44745]

Tue, 02 September 2003 12:01

England
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PiMuRho

Doitle: to avoid your problem, it should be left up to the server operator to decide how strictly they want to enforce things.

For example, clan matches should be run as "pure" - no modified skins/models at all, whereas your average public server would just want the anti-cheat settings.

Problem solved!

Thats a good idea, levels of detection, ie the option to allow skins etc..

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44750]

Tue, 02 September 2003 12:09

Demolition man
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kawolsky

Removing the green tint from the scope is not cheating, it is just having a slight advantage, you either hit them or you don`t, it doesn`t pull the trigger for you and it doesn`t auto aim,i see no problem using it as it has only a slight extra advantage.

It gives an advantage just like a cheat and the other pink skins.

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44796]

Tue, 02 September 2003 13:30

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It still gives an advantage.

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44888]

Tue, 02 September 2003 16:57

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I wouldn't call it an advantage, more of a preference. There are several ways of looking at it. Someone might prefer the green tint while other want to get rid of it. Some might want to make sure they follow the rules and use the green tint like it or not while others just don't give a shit, 'becuase hey it's able to be modified so why not modify it?' I personally don't care about such a petty rule breaking, and I also have a different scope skin myself.

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All the 'advantage is an advantage' for some reason just reminds me of the theory of a standard world or something where everything is the same and everyone has that same things......just doesn't make a big deal unless it is threatening the community. I mean Westwood could have made it to where you are able to have different scopes, such as a night vision and a non night vision scope, they just might not have had the time or thought to implement it. Sorry but if I would be sniping in the mourning I think I would switch off night vision.....everyone has a choice to use these skins if they want to

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44913]

Tue, 02 September 2003 19:25

Creed3020
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I just hope the list will be very thought through. I can see a lot of people getting kicked and banned left right and centre for just certain contraversal skins.

I just hope it does more good then piss people off... Confused

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44923]

Tue, 02 September 2003 20:23

Gus
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LOL... I don't want to be banned for using a nude Hotwire skin. Very Happy

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44929]

Tue, 02 September 2003 20:32

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lol.... was thinking "y would they bann skins at all?" but duh! florecent C4s, tanks, infantry....ect

lol im a moron

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44955]

Wed, 03 September 2003 01:59

Majiin Vegeta
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i would say add the highlighted C4's and the highlighted characters... there worse then any clear sniper scope

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44959]

Wed, 03 September 2003 03:57

boma57
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Dear God, if you're afraid of someone using an advantage so small as getting rid of the green tint on the scope, you must really be horrible at the game and groping at any opportunity you have to make it equal because you couldn't survive otherwise.

I don't use any sniper skins, but honestly, if you have to reassure yourself that removing a tint or the very small black outline (Probably barely a 10-25% vision increase if you do) is a "great, GREAT advantage", then you have got some insecurity issues in this game, my friend.

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44961]

Wed, 03 September 2003 05:09

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i like that green tint! its more realistic, like night vision. Laughing

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Question About RenGuard..... [message #44967]

Wed, 03 September 2003 06:33

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LOL... I don't want to be banned for using a nude Hotwire skin. Very Happy

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Bring on teh screenies Laughing

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