| New Build - Computer [message #445914] |
Mon, 18 April 2011 22:51  |
Speedy059
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Ordered parts just now, here is my new personal desktop build.
CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K
Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Motherboard: MSI P67A-GD80 (B3) LGA 1155
SSD: 2x Crucial RealSSD C300 256GB - RAID 1(for OS)
HD: 2x 2TB - RAID 1 (for media)
Video Card: GeForce GTX 470
PSU: Suggestions? (Something that is energy efficient, I pay the bills around here. Will use what I got until I find something good...)
I debating whether to do a build where my operating system was placed on a SSD hard drive. Since I decided to do it, I had to get 2 SSD's since when they do fail, its within the first 2 months and I don't want to lose my data. Usually leave my computer on 24/7, so I think the SSD's will help conserve energy since the SATA 2TB hard drives will powered down for most of the day as I don't really use them.
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| Re: New Build - Computer [message #445918 is a reply to message #445917] |
Mon, 18 April 2011 23:26  |
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| reborn wrote on Tue, 19 April 2011 02:12 |
Sorry, I cannot offer any advice on the PSU, but can I ask what you need all that memory for?
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I do a lot of work from home and have a lot of applications open. And memory is cheap right now, so instead of 8GB I opted for 16GB.
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| Re: New Build - Computer [message #445925 is a reply to message #445914] |
Tue, 19 April 2011 04:15 |
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The Enermax galaxy series is also a quiete good PSU.
They sure have the Watts you need.
It might not be the most silent one.
Also it is modular so you dont have tons of cables.
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| Re: New Build - Computer [message #445962 is a reply to message #445914] |
Tue, 19 April 2011 18:18 |
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The graphics card is something I already have, and I don't get to play that many games and it still runs at the highest graphic levels on any modern day games I do play. I usually upgrade the graphics card every 6-10 months and I did that about 5 months ago. It's a work computer, and in no way will I do a RAID0 on SSD's. Monthly snap shots would be to old.
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| Re: New Build - Computer [message #445975 is a reply to message #445914] |
Wed, 20 April 2011 00:40 |
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I don't get the idea of two SSD's. If your data is on your sata's, then you cannot loose data if your SSD fails. Nice setup, BTW.
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| Re: New Build - Computer [message #446001 is a reply to message #445978] |
Wed, 20 April 2011 23:49 |
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| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Wed, 20 April 2011 04:45 |
| Goztow wrote on Wed, 20 April 2011 09:40 |
I don't get the idea of two SSD's. If your data is on your sata's, then you cannot loose data if your SSD fails. Nice setup, BTW.
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I understand the 2 SSD's, I just don't understand why RAID1. Seems like a waste to me really. Proper backups would eitehr save you a lot of money or offer a lot more available diskspace and performance.
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I don't want to have to rebuild the computer and reinstall everything....even if I do have backups. That can take all day to restore everything to how it was even with backups.
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| Re: New Build - Computer [message #446003 is a reply to message #446001] |
Thu, 21 April 2011 00:21 |
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| Speedy059 wrote on Thu, 21 April 2011 08:49 |
| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Wed, 20 April 2011 04:45 |
| Goztow wrote on Wed, 20 April 2011 09:40 |
I don't get the idea of two SSD's. If your data is on your sata's, then you cannot loose data if your SSD fails. Nice setup, BTW.
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I understand the 2 SSD's, I just don't understand why RAID1. Seems like a waste to me really. Proper backups would eitehr save you a lot of money or offer a lot more available diskspace and performance.
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I don't want to have to rebuild the computer and reinstall everything....even if I do have backups. That can take all day to restore everything to how it was even with backups.
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If your backups are made regularly (say daily or even every 6 hours or w/e) then you would probably at maximum lose <time between backups>+2 to 3 hours in total. Depends a bit on the speed of your backup drives, but in general this would be pretty accurate from my experience. (120GB backed up to RAID5 consisting of Spinpoint F1/F3's, restored to RAID0 consisting of 2x Vertex 60GB)
Edit: Then again, if you have the monies, why not... Although I would do RAID3 or RAID5 then 
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| Re: New Build - Computer [message #446013 is a reply to message #446010] |
Thu, 21 April 2011 04:41 |
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| Speedy059 wrote on Thu, 21 April 2011 11:26 |
| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Thu, 21 April 2011 03:21 |
Edit: Then again, if you have the monies, why not... Although I would do RAID3 or RAID5 then
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lol, then if I got that someone would say...why not RAID 10? Then if I get that, someone will take it to the next level all the way up until a super computer. Funny trend on gaming forums... 
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Well, I guess that's kinda true, but when you're talking about SSD's and in particularly 256GB SSD's you're wasting quite a lot of space and thus monies with RAID1. RAID5 would limit your losses while still offering pretty much the same security. Edit: RAID1 does however make sense when you're using pure software RAID, so RAID in Windows. This because it would allow you to untilize the benefits of the TRIM command. If you are feeling comfortable with RAID5 you could also pick the smalle capacity drives to save money that way. Instead of 2 256GB drives you could have the same storage capacity with 3 128GB drives.
Btw, you should reconsider your SSD choice, you could pick the newer Crucial (updated version of your current selection), the new Vertex 3 or the Intel 510 series.
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| Re: New Build - Computer [message #446030 is a reply to message #446013] |
Thu, 21 April 2011 12:24 |
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| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Thu, 21 April 2011 07:41 |
| Speedy059 wrote on Thu, 21 April 2011 11:26 |
| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Thu, 21 April 2011 03:21 |
Edit: Then again, if you have the monies, why not... Although I would do RAID3 or RAID5 then
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lol, then if I got that someone would say...why not RAID 10? Then if I get that, someone will take it to the next level all the way up until a super computer. Funny trend on gaming forums...
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Well, I guess that's kinda true, but when you're talking about SSD's and in particularly 256GB SSD's you're wasting quite a lot of space and thus monies with RAID1. RAID5 would limit your losses while still offering pretty much the same security. Edit: RAID1 does however make sense when you're using pure software RAID, so RAID in Windows. This because it would allow you to untilize the benefits of the TRIM command. If you are feeling comfortable with RAID5 you could also pick the smalle capacity drives to save money that way. Instead of 2 256GB drives you could have the same storage capacity with 3 128GB drives.
Btw, you should reconsider your SSD choice, you could pick the newer Crucial (updated version of your current selection), the new Vertex 3 or the Intel 510 series.
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Those 510's are only good for large file transfers. I don't do to much of that. I'm going for high IOP's, not 500MB/s transferring a moving around. Those 510's have an embarrassing number of IOPs. I would definitely need a RAID5 or 10 to compete with 2 Crucials.
I think what I have will suite me just fine. Thanks everyone.
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