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Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #445747 is a reply to message #445538] Wed, 13 April 2011 08:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Some facts:
The build of scripts.dll APB has is deliberatly locked to the APB mod to prevent its use with Renegade and with other mods (mostly because its not ready for Renegade use yet although I want to release for renegade just as much as you guys want it released)

The file-hash anti-cheat system we have implemented (the one which server owners can turn on and off) is based on comparing the hash (no I wont say what sort of hash algorithm we are using) of the file on the client with the hash of the file on the server.

To allow for the different language versions of renegade (and the fact that individual server owners may want to approve e.g. non-cheat 3rd party model replacements) we support an ini file called anticheat.ini which goes on the server and matches file-names to hashes. So if the client sends a hash matching one in anticheat.ini, its considered valid. There is also a tool called achash.exe that generates the hashes for anticheat.ini.

The tool I am working on at the moment though is something that will be run by the scripts 4.0 installer when you install 4.0. What it does is to use the official anticheat.ini (the one that contains all the hashes for all the different language versions of renegade) and checks important Renegade games files against those hashes. If the hashes don't match, the file is moved to a backup folder and the relavent file for your version of Renegade (English, French, German, whatever) will be downloaded from a TT server.

This tool will also identify if you are not running patch 1.037 and if you are not, will download some files and set some registry keys to correctly set up 1.037

Do note that there are other anti-cheat changes in scripts 4.0 (including a number of features ported across from BIATCH) and that all of the anti-cheat features previously handled by RenGuard are now covered by the new 4.0 anti-cheat.


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Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #445763 is a reply to message #445538] Wed, 13 April 2011 15:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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good stuff , I was hoping something like anticheat.ini would be implemented so owners can easily customize what files are allowed and what are not. This exactly what I wanted btw. Keep up the good work.

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Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #445827 is a reply to message #445538] Fri, 15 April 2011 18:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"i installed a brand new, hardcore lock @ my home and i wont tell you what it is but: here, im gonna release a whole set of keys that would fit to my door and if thats not enough: here you got a negative so you can make your own keys for my door. BUT I WONT EFFIN TELL YOU WHAT LOCK IT IS!"

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Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #445829 is a reply to message #445538] Fri, 15 April 2011 20:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When is that guy getting banned?
Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #445830 is a reply to message #445829] Fri, 15 April 2011 20:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Generalcamo wrote on Sat, 16 April 2011 05:22

When is that guy getting banned?


as soon as banging your mom is illegal i guess.
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Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #445834 is a reply to message #445829] Fri, 15 April 2011 21:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Generalcamo wrote on Fri, 15 April 2011 23:22

When is that guy getting banned?


As soon as you physically take his computer, most likely.
You might have to call his mom.

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Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #445848 is a reply to message #445827] Sat, 16 April 2011 13:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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0x90 wrote on Fri, 15 April 2011 18:40

"i installed a brand new, hardcore lock @ my home and i wont tell you what it is but: here, im gonna release a whole set of keys that would fit to my door and if thats not enough: here you got a negative so you can make your own keys for my door. BUT I WONT EFFIN TELL YOU WHAT LOCK IT IS!"

funny Razz

It was my understanding that said lock would not try to be unlocked by you, no matter what keys were given...? Unless i was misinformed?


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Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #445851 is a reply to message #445848] Sat, 16 April 2011 17:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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HaTe wrote on Sat, 16 April 2011 16:31

0x90 wrote on Fri, 15 April 2011 18:40

"i installed a brand new, hardcore lock @ my home and i wont tell you what it is but: here, im gonna release a whole set of keys that would fit to my door and if thats not enough: here you got a negative so you can make your own keys for my door. BUT I WONT EFFIN TELL YOU WHAT LOCK IT IS!"

funny Razz

It was my understanding that said lock would not try to be unlocked by you, no matter what keys were given...? Unless i was misinformed?

To be honest, I've never heard of a lock that tried to be unlocked by someone, lol. But that's kind of besides my point.
jonwil basically just described how his lock works.. which happens to be a pretty common type of lock, so an experienced locksmith wouldn't have much difficulty getting past it.

analogies are weird


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Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #445852 is a reply to message #445851] Sat, 16 April 2011 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

To be honest, I've never heard of a lock that tried to be unlocked by someone


Sorry, I'm not following...?


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Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #445855 is a reply to message #445538] Sat, 16 April 2011 22:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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For those who didnt get that analogy ... any body with a good disassembler and knowledge of cracking applications can unlock it. Since, the dll is locked to specific applications - namely APB / reborn Server.dat.

Though the only 3 people I can think of who can do such a feat would be JNZ, hex, and fairly likely 0x90.
As for me ... i'm waiting - AS SHOULD YOU. Go out side, get a job, do something constructive while you wait. I am. I'm getting a degree and working for a programming company. (also Rene-Buddy/RenX when I can).

Just let it go guys. All the programmers know how long it takes to code extensive modules and applications... Those who just play the game get a little impatient yet have no idea how long things like this take - try it for your self?


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Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #445878 is a reply to message #445538] Sun, 17 April 2011 15:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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grant89uk wrote on Sun, 17 April 2011 12:16

FUCK THE POLICE

I don't get it.


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Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #445887 is a reply to message #445827] Sun, 17 April 2011 23:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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0x90 wrote on Fri, 15 April 2011 20:40

"i installed a brand new, hardcore lock @ my home and i wont tell you what it is but: here, im gonna release a whole set of keys that would fit to my door and if thats not enough: here you got a negative so you can make your own keys for my door. BUT I WONT EFFIN TELL YOU WHAT LOCK IT IS!"

funny Razz


and the sad part is he will make a new aimbot for renegade even though its pretty much dead as it is...


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Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #447014 is a reply to message #445538] Wed, 11 May 2011 07:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rule number 1 in a gamers manual:

if you cant win try to cheat
if you cant cheat rage quit

those who dont live by this rule are officially grown up gamers

rule number in grown up gamers manual:

don't cheat only children do that


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Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #447730 is a reply to message #445538] Sun, 22 May 2011 09:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yea, I am late to this party... don't keep up on much here anymore.

Logically the year will never end, if you believe in the arrow never hits the target crap. Too bad those assholes never let you shoot an arrow at them though.

I just leave that random thought here, some will understand...
Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #452149 is a reply to message #445834] Sun, 21 August 2011 14:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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halo2pac wrote on Sat, 16 April 2011 06:58

Generalcamo wrote on Fri, 15 April 2011 23:22

When is that guy getting banned?


As soon as you physically take his computer, most likely.
You might have to call his mom.

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Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 18 February 2011 23:50

I figured some people will still go LOLOLOL STARVING CATS LOOOOLZ UR A FAG or some dumb shit like that. Thanks for not disappointing! Smile

Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #452156 is a reply to message #445538] Sun, 21 August 2011 15:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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THANKS FOR THE INFO

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Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #452176 is a reply to message #452149] Sun, 21 August 2011 21:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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renalpha wrote on Sun, 21 August 2011 17:47

that girl is candy. i want to do her.


lol shes probably got 3 kids in a trailer by now cause some guy from da internets got to her before you.

also, whats with the random reply? you might as well have said "IS IT DONE YET DAD".


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Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #452178 is a reply to message #445538] Sun, 21 August 2011 21:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hitman wrote on Wed, 06 April 2011 15:02

this year yes or no


figure it may be worth asking again


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Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #452179 is a reply to message #445538] Sun, 21 August 2011 22:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I can tell you that we are working on 4.0 as fast as we can and that we will release it when we have fixed the bugs and are satisfied that it is stable and bug free enough for a release.

I want 4.0 out as much as everyone but asking about the release date will not help get it out any faster.


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Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #452192 is a reply to message #445538] Mon, 22 August 2011 02:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We won't have it before the 2012 apocalypse. Maybe in the afterlife.
Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #452196 is a reply to message #452178] Mon, 22 August 2011 03:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tunaman wrote on Mon, 22 August 2011 06:51

Hitman wrote on Wed, 06 April 2011 15:02

this year yes or no


figure it may be worth asking again

I can't speak for TT, as I'm not part of their team, but I have a good feeling about a public beta this year Smile.


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Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #452287 is a reply to message #452179] Tue, 23 August 2011 18:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jonwil wrote on Mon, 22 August 2011 01:08

I can tell you that we are working on 4.0 as fast as we can and that we will release it when we have fixed the bugs and are satisfied that it is stable and bug free enough for a release.

I want 4.0 out as much as everyone but asking about the release date will not help get it out any faster.


Yeah, I realize and I applaud your efforts in working on this project. Thanks. Smile
I was just curious if you considered it close, although I do realize that other things may come up.
Is there actually a way that I can help?(being serious here, that could sound rude but that's not my intention)


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Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #452321 is a reply to message #445538] Tue, 23 August 2011 22:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Judging from what I see as a tester, it's running really well. Bugs are fixed quickly. New functionality is added. I would not be surprised if we had a release within two months.
Re: ETA OF PATCH [message #452324 is a reply to message #452321] Tue, 23 August 2011 23:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Tue, 23 August 2011 22:41

Judging from what I see as a tester, it's running really well. Bugs are fixed quickly. New functionality is added. I would not be surprised if we had a release within two months.


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Tunaman wrote on Wed, 24 August 2011 03:19

jonwil wrote on Mon, 22 August 2011 01:08

I can tell you that we are working on 4.0 as fast as we can and that we will release it when we have fixed the bugs and are satisfied that it is stable and bug free enough for a release.

I want 4.0 out as much as everyone but asking about the release date will not help get it out any faster.


Yeah, I realize and I applaud your efforts in working on this project. Thanks. Smile
I was just curious if you considered it close, although I do realize that other things may come up.
Is there actually a way that I can help?(being serious here, that could sound rude but that's not my intention)

You could sign up as a private beta tester, though I'm unsure on what criteria candidates are judged.


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