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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #440968 is a reply to message #440966] |
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what a surprise that yet again you sidestep the fact you got proven wrong AND caught lying
but ok, change the subject again, i'll still tell you why you're wrong about this too
| Hitman wrote on Mon, 06 December 2010 15:55 |
people on my team were going afk quite alot aswell, i wasnt playing serious on volcano
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it's really amazing that you think "i wasn't trying" is something anyone on the other team ought to give a shit about. if it shows anything, the only thing it could show is that you feel a little uneasy about how incredibly close that 8v6 game was, and perhaps you need to find a reason why you only won it by three seconds.
if your team had lost volcano, they would've been completely justified in saying it was entirely your fault. we're still talking about who's the best player, aren't we?
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whiskey was afk in the start and people like ioncloud went afk a few times aswell, i just dont care enough like u to explain every possible factor as to why its not fair other than the islands case which was quite obvious and not comparable, its your fault for playing in a game without password then complaining about it afterwards when u got your ass kicked...
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it's now obvious, hitman, that this is not just a case of you being thick as pigshit and unable to understand really simple things that are said slowly and carefully and repeatedly. this is a case of you intentionally lying to try to get out of admitting you were wrong about anything. like i said, it's really sad what this thread has done to you... your anger has completely taken over.
you're the one who desperately tried to dismiss islands. well guess what, nobody on my team said it was a worthwhile game OR tried to say it proved anything about who's a good player. it obviously meant a lot to you, though. odd, that... it didn't mean much to anyone on GDI. by contrast, all i've done is point out that you had a huge number advantage on volcano and field, after you try to use these games to win an argument. it obviously bothers you a great deal, you seem to think i'm not allowed to point out the inconvenient details of this game, the fact that you only won an 8v6 by three seconds on volcano, the fact you were getting thrashed on field (big points lead + your ref was dead) right up until our team suddenly dropped and it became 8v5 for an unknown reason.
had anyone on my team made a big deal about islands and said "see i told you spoony was better than hitman" you would have been completely justified in pointing out the problems caused by random afk guys. the problems were there in the other games too, especially volcano, but since you won (by the tiniest of margins) and since you think you can use that win to salvage an argument you're getting completely shown up in, suddenly the problem you referred to yourself on Islands doesn't exist anymore?
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u made a major comeback on under the last few minutes while u were being dominated the entire game and we just kept u back the last few minutes
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well done. again, we had two players who were sbh all game and barely had 100 points between them. still, results are results, you did win by a couple of hundred points. in what sense that is "domination" or "ass kicking" i'm not quite sure, but congratulations.
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what it comes down to: u have claimed to be the best from the start of this thread, yet the results aren't there
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no, what it comes down to is you've been wrong a shitload of times, caught lying a few times, dodge every point you can't think of an answer to, dismiss any evidence that goes against you and look with absurd tunnel-vision at any evidence you think works for you. who cares that it was 8v6 all game, what matters is you won, eh? well, the question wasn't can you win an 8v6 by three seconds. if that was the question, we'd be a little surprised to meet a clanwars pro who couldn't, wouldn't we?
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get the results then maybe people will care what u have to say on the forums?
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i think you mean "get the results and then maybe hitman will find a reason why they don't count", as you were doing before we did those lobbywars.
calm down btw... seriously
edit since you edited your post
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u can't claim #1 by posting alot lol, while u have been trying that since the very beginning of this topic
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uh no. the important thing is that everything i've said has been right so far (despite your failed attempts to debunk it, and your pathetic attempts to lie about stuff i didn't even say), not how many times i've needed to repeat it thanks to your stupidity and ignorance
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your obviously out for some recognition that u do not deserve in anyones eyes
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i really don't care whether anyone thinks i'm best player or not, if you're confused about that. it's obviously extremely important for both you and simpee.
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i started this topic out friendly and u went all hardcore in it instantly
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wow lol, you really are thick as pigshit. i was just calmly answering the question, you're the one who went berserk
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #440979 is a reply to message #440968] |
Mon, 06 December 2010 16:28 |
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| Spoony wrote on Mon, 06 December 2010 17:23 |
i really don't care whether anyone thinks i'm best player or not
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If you truly didn't care, you wouldn't have jumped into this thread claiming the #1 spot, then trying to make your case for 16 pages and counting.
It's definitely time for this thread to die though, but I have a feeling its going to be a slow, painful death.
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #440981 is a reply to message #440979] |
Mon, 06 December 2010 16:58 |
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| GoTWhisKéY wrote on Mon, 06 December 2010 18:28 |
| Spoony wrote on Mon, 06 December 2010 17:23 |
i really don't care whether anyone thinks i'm best player or not
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If you truly didn't care, you wouldn't have jumped into this thread claiming the #1 spot, then trying to make your case for 16 pages and counting.
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do you think it's worth noting that nothing, absolutely nothing i've said so far has actually turned out to be wrong? if so, the fact this can continue to be the case despite 16 pages of challenge to it isn't actually a bad thing.
by contrast, plenty of things hitman has said has been completely debunked, not to mention the fact he's been caught lying several times - and yet we have 16 pages of him desperately trying to avoid conceding any of the above.
if me just answering the question is "caring", then hitman goes a long way beyond caring.
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #440989 is a reply to message #439171] |
Mon, 06 December 2010 19:41 |
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Well good for you spoony, you think you're right.
But GOD DAMN are you annoying.
Here's the key factor: nobody gives a shit.
Tell your friends and family how you argued for 17 pages about how right you are on this subject, and tell me what they say. If they say anything other than "you're a fucking loser, I don't give a shit" then I'll stfu. Promise!
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441010 is a reply to message #440989] |
Tue, 07 December 2010 08:19 |
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| bmr_71 wrote on Mon, 06 December 2010 20:41 |
Well good for you spoony, you think you're right.
But GOD DAMN are you annoying.
Here's the key factor: nobody gives a shit.
Tell your friends and family how you argued for 17 pages about how right you are on this subject, and tell me what they say. If they say anything other than "you're a fucking loser, I don't give a shit" then I'll stfu. Promise!
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certainly nobody outside of renegade could be expected to give a shit, which is why this discussion is happening on - wait for it - a renegade forum, i.e. a place which exists for the sole purpose of talking about renegade. had you gone to your real life friends and family and told them how seriously you used to take this game (and how desperately you tried to pretend you didn't), they'd have been equally contemptuous.
as for people involved with renegade - if you haven't noticed at least two people have been absolutely infuriated by this thread. it's very hard to argue hitman "doesn't give a shit", look at him
btw here's the last thing i said to you, any comment on this?
Boomer: I argue on the internets (and I always win) because it makes me feel better about myself
Spoony: i'm not seeing what your problem is with someone being right about something. given that you don't seem to mind, for example, simpee continually lying over and over and over again rather than just conceding he's wrong about something, cos guess what, he's tried that in every single thread in which he's argued with me.
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441011 is a reply to message #439171] |
Tue, 07 December 2010 08:27 |
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reply to ^above: offcourse i care, if i didnt i wouldn't even have replied, this is the only thread in entire renegade i actually care for, and thats just because you became cocky as fuck out of the blue
no one will ever be able to prove he's actually better or atleast as good as my homey spoony here LOL, just because no matter what happens there will always be something that makes the game abit unfair therefor it wont count, and even if this does ever happen then he'll just say this: "this only shows that your teams teamwork was better, it has nothing to do with individuals!" how come you weren't a top notch clanwar player since your basically the best with just about every vehicle that renegade has? eitherway u said u never said u were the best clanwars player, but your the best public player lol, so your the best in games where people generally just dont try in or just play whatever character they like, for their pleasure, not for ranks or ladder... if you really would like to show off your amazing skill in renny then just play people like me and whiskey a clanwar with whoever u want to? sure enough if u completly rape us (like u should, just because the way u talk) then me and whiskey and some others will see that you were right all along, i just want to see some evidence... the only 'evidence' u got supporting your case that u are better than me was a stupid topic on clanwars more than 1 year ago, lol... not valid IMO but u dont even have anything on people like whiskey who were raping whatever clan came around for years, as far as im concerned your a cocky bitch that tries to claim shit he does not deserve, and this is coming from someone who used to be in your clan and was a renebuddy of u, not from someone who always had beef with u like simpee, so if that counts for anything:
Shut up and PROVE your better, me and everyone else has yet to see the evidence.
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441014 is a reply to message #439171] |
Tue, 07 December 2010 09:33 |
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Spoony, the evidence doesnt lie,
HTMN 5
New2Ren 5
Whiskey 3
LinZLohan 3
kims 2
Megaboink 2
Wyld1USA 2
Rohypnol 2
Spoony 1
hitman is five times as good as u and so is TD. dont complain about sbhs running around or people going afk in those games because in the community wars u beat me in, 50% of my team had sbhs. that didnt stop u taking credit now did it?
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441015 is a reply to message #441011] |
Tue, 07 December 2010 10:17 |
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| Simpee wrote |
dont complain about sbhs running around or people going afk in those games because in the community wars u beat me in, 50% of my team had sbhs. that didnt stop u taking credit now did it?
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if anyone other than you said this i'd have told you to quit making stuff up, but since lying is all you ever do i'd be wasting my breath.
anyway, there's an enormous difference between a community war where teams are intentionally selected, and these hybrid games we did where if two random public guys join your team and immediately go AFK, and my moderator rights haven't been sorted out yet, there's nothing can be done about it.
and we're not talking about one series of five games where everybody agreed that a few random public server guys going afk is a big problem that must be addressed (and we have addressed it); we're talking about every single community match i ever played against you, which covers quite a lot of different teams.
do you seriously think you could have taken a team of renforums players who've never even played comm matches before and led them to victory against teams like jelly, simpee?
and while i have your attention again - though i thought you'd already left this argument in a rage at losing it - why haven't you apologised to me yet for the UNBELIEVABLY pathetic thing you did on the jelly forum, you lying, cheating little bitch?
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reply to ^above: offcourse i care, if i didnt i wouldn't even have replied, this is the only thread in entire renegade i actually care for, and thats just because you became cocky as fuck out of the blue
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no, i just answered the question honestly, and you went berserk.
whiskey's comment on this was a bit odd - you're not allowed to say you're the best if it's what you think. well then, what's the point of the best player threads that we always did on clanwars, where simpee and boomer always went absolutely mental whenever anyone put kill and whiskey at the top or near the top? should people say something other than they mean to prevent the psychological anguish?
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no one will ever be able to prove he's actually better or atleast as good as my homey spoony here LOL, just because no matter what happens there will always be something that makes the game abit unfair therefor it wont count, and even if this does ever happen then he'll just say this: "this only shows that your teams teamwork was better, it has nothing to do with individuals!"
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you've already been caught lying about this, why make yourself even more pathetic than you already have?
i never said the games didn't count, liar. i said right from the beginning that the results are what they are, the team that won won. i simply said that since you were so eager to boast about, say, volcano, it might be worth looking at the game you were presenting as evidence - the fact it was 8v6, the fact you only just barely won by three seconds, etc. the fact you were getting thrashed on field until it suddenly became 8v5 and you just started to claw your way back, etc. still, the results are the results, you did win, though if this game is to be used as evidence for who the best player is, the fact you could only just barely win a 8v6 by three seconds seems if anything to count for my side, doesn't it?
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how come you weren't a top notch clanwar player since your basically the best with just about every vehicle that renegade has? eitherway u said u never said u were the best clanwars player, but your the best public player lol
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again, why do you keep lying? are you so desperate to avoid conceding spoony might be right about something? the point isn't clanwars or publics, the point is timeframe. i never said i was the best player a year ago, for example, because i didn't play that much, did i? or indeed at any point over the last few years. this is the point i tried repeatedly to get through to you - supposing you were better than me at clanwars (despite the fact you always said the opposite until you went berserk in this thread), wouldn't that be only to be expected given how often you played and how often i didn't? you had an ENORMOUS number of games per month (probably the most we've seen since Soul) at the time and you kept complaining that i didn't play very often, remember?
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so your the best in games where people generally just dont try in or just play whatever character they like, for their pleasure, not for ranks or ladder...
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i don't play for ranks or ladder either. i play the way i like to play, simple as that. and do yourself a favour, stop saying you weren't trying whenever you lose, as you were doing before those lobbywars. it's a sad attempt to rig the argument so you can't lose it... boomer and wrs used to do it all the time.
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if you really would like to show off your amazing skill in renny then just play people like me and whiskey a clanwar with whoever u want to?
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the difference between me and you, hitman, is it's never occurred to me to play a game just to prove something. i play for fun, i've certainly never thought that i've got to play someone just because what they said on a forum made me angry, as is the case with you. i prefer big games, though in case you haven't noticed, i'm also pushing these lobbywars forward.
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the only 'evidence' u got supporting your case that u are better than me was a stupid topic on clanwars more than 1 year ago, lol... not valid IMO
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nice lie, again. i've put forth quite a lot of evidence, and you've always made the most ridiculous excuses as to why none of it is admissible. usually it's that pathetic "i wasn't trying" whine, which makes your case weaker rather than stronger.
as for the best player topics on clanwars, the whole point i was making was how your anger is clouding your judgement. i'm not sure why i need to keep repeating this. the point of referring to those topics was to remind you what YOU SAID, i.e. that i was better than you. since you went berserk in this thread, you've said many times that you were always better than me. well, were you lying then or are you just insane now?
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but u dont even have anything on people like whiskey who were raping whatever clan came around for years
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you might want to read this thread more closely. i was one of the very few people at clanwars who never had a problem seeing how good kill and whiskey were. i can't be the only person who remembers how angry people like boomer and wrs and simpee and SS got at the idea that kill was the best player and whiskey was one of the best. and we're not talking about the H2O/Verb dodge month, we're talking about the period where H2O's win record was favourable against everybody.
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as far as im concerned your a cocky bitch that tries to claim shit he does not deserve, and this is coming from someone who used to be in your clan and was a renebuddy of u, not from someone who always had beef with u like simpee, so if that counts for anything:
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I don't think it does, because simpee has absolutely nothing to blame me for either. i've never done anything wrong to him, indeed i've done him nothing but favours, in spite of the extraordinarily pathetic way he's always behaved towards me.
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441020 is a reply to message #439171] |
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so winning 4-1 vs u makes u the better player because u think people on your team only (every game appearantly) were afk... lol it was unpassworded for a reason u idiot, if i had to count every time i encountered a teammate of mine standing still in a building then i would not have hands enough to count em on, u cannot expect people to be dedicated all that much if they might not even have known it was sort of an extra competitive game lol
i'll be lookin forwards to the next real match to see what your next excuse will be, hope it'll be somewhat better than this one because everyone can see that u simply just lost the games, and are trying to find every excuse possible to explain it
if you cant take your losses like a man, stick to argueing on the forum
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441022 is a reply to message #441020] |
Tue, 07 December 2010 11:10 |
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and you dodge yet another bucketload of things you were proven wrong and caught lying about, so i guess you get points for consistency
| Hitman wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 11:44 |
so winning 4-1 vs u makes u the better player because u think people on your team only (every game appearantly) were afk...
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excuse me, i wasn't the one who tried to use those games to prove a point. you were. all i've done is examine the evidence you were so fanatically eager to provide.
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lol it was unpassworded for a reason u idiot
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yes, and we've reconsidered that. for starters, we assumed that at least one of us - gozy or myself, for example - would have moderator abilities. but gozy wasn't around and there was a problem with my moderator rights, as well as with the teamspeak changer. (both of which are fixed now)
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if i had to count every time i encountered a teammate of mine standing still in a building then i would not have hands enough to count em on
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you're making this up again. the only game you can say this about is islands, and you know it.
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u cannot expect people to be dedicated all that much if they might not even have known it was sort of an extra competitive game lol
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we've said this sort of thing before.
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i'll be lookin forwards to the next real match to see what your next excuse will be, hope it'll be somewhat better than this one because everyone can see that u simply just lost the games, and are trying to find every excuse possible to explain it
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it's really sad how pathetic you are, hitman, as well as what a liar you've suddenly become. who would have thought this thread would have had such an effect on you?
you were always making excuses for your losses before we even did those lobbywars. usually it was "i wasn't trying", which makes your case weaker rather than stronger. by contrast, me pointing out that the game you were so eagerly boasting about was a 8v6, or that you were losing on field until it suddenly became 8v5... they aren't excuses for defeat, they're reasons. and we've all generally agreed that random public players going AFK is a big problem that must be addressed, and address it we have done. i'll also compare my reaction to this problem (in-game was just to carry on playing, and then to have a serious discussion about how to solve it after the games) to your team's enormous ragequit on islands when it was you who felt the effects of the problem instead of being the benefactors of it.
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if you cant take your losses like a man, stick to argueing on the forum
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if you note the difference between my reaction to those games and yours, this comment becomes very funny.
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Tue, 07 December 2010 11:18 |
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really spoony, just shut up...
it all comes down to u claiming to be the best player around when this is actually the case:
ur tactics: basic
ur infantry: could be beaten by my little sister who doesn't even play this game
ur tanks: u can handle em good but when tactics come in ur yet again, basic.
ur overall sneakyness and being able to adapt to the situation: not great
surprise factor ingame: 0
conclusion: basic as fuck.
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| Hitman wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 12:18 |
really spoony, just shut up...
it all comes down to
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and YET AGAIN, you totally can't handle the number of times you've been proven wrong, nor do you seem even remotely embarrassed at being caught lying again. change the subject AGAIN... wow.
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u claiming to be the best player around when this is actually the case:
ur tactics: basic
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then explain the fact that you and i were a match for anyone in 2v2, the fact that i took a renforums team that had never played commwars before and led them to victory against experienced teams, the fact that i get much better results in public servers where i can actually encourage teams to use the right strategies while you can't, and the fact that even with a 2-man number advantage you could only win volcano by 3 seconds and under by 200 points?
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ur infantry: could be beaten by my little sister who doesn't even play this game
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my pistol, while certainly not exceptional, has never let the team down. you yourself named me as best AOW sniper, which is interesting since i never snipe and you do it all the time. sniping vs you on wallsfly the other day also had interesting results, didn't it? but i don't think i've ever said my sniping was exceptional either. you did.
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ur tanks: u can handle em good but when tactics come in ur yet again, basic.
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this is anger taking over yet again. you can't concede how obviously good i am in tanks without trying to change the subject somehow. i'm still the best light tank in the game, you yourself said i was best mrl, you recently praised my flying, and i can match anyone in med/art. you know all this to be true, and if you really want this discussion to be worth a damn, you would concede those points which work for me without trying to worm out of it or change the subject.
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ur overall sneakyness and being able to adapt to the situation: not great
surprise factor ingame: 0
conclusion: basic as fuck.
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and yet we have all those things you need to explain
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441031 is a reply to message #439171] |
Tue, 07 December 2010 12:00 |
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not only is spoony the best player, he is also a better sniper than me even tho half of clanwars thought i cheated my ass off when i sniped, only thing i remember from that walls fly game was me killing 3 of your teams sakura's, u got lucky a couple of times over the last year and now you think your real good, just like u think your all that now because u've been raping public people for way to long without anyone good around to match your amount of renegade dedication to win every pub game, many people have told me that i was the better player in TC and that was after that topic YOU made which u bring up nearly every post u make, sure enough things concerning your ego trip will become far worse and soon you will say something among the lines of "i was the key to succes in every single clan i have been in" lol, i didnt need u to beat the best clans out there, but please do call me a pathological liar, and dont even talk about "you and i" please i rather not be mentioned in the same sentence as you anymore
and dont twist my words spoonerd, what i said in that topic was EXACTLY this: " sniper: simpee, hitman and spoony has surprised me abit lately so maybe him too
and if my judgement is clouded, then so is yours, u put nunega in top 5 on that list while he was absolutely overrated, but u probably didnt see that since u were to busy trying to keep simpee/clear off which were his teammates ALL THE TIME, i remember playin nunega a couple 2v2s after, his first time ever without clear/simpee i suppose and it didnt go quite so well as it used to, to say the least
btw lol @ this: - nader (just so hitman can win SOMETHING)
arrogant bitch...
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if you want to hurt spoonys feelings all u have to do is say techd arts are imba and infantry is underpowered on pointfix. i didnt realise it at the time, but spoony is emotionally connected to the pointfix and thats why hes always been so hostile towards me.
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