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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439542 is a reply to message #439171] Mon, 15 November 2010 07:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i dont really care much for this game anymore, it was just really funny how you were trying to prove your bullshit multiple times in a row, i just think your cocky as fuck... that's all

all the things u spit out in this topic remains an opinion, that quite frankly just about ... no one at all shares with you.

and kill was better than me, you however... no

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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439543 is a reply to message #439171] Mon, 15 November 2010 07:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This now turned into a heated discussion Smile. Topic moved.

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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439544 is a reply to message #439542] Mon, 15 November 2010 07:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hitman wrote on Mon, 15 November 2010 08:18

i dont really care much for this game anymore, it was just really funny how you were trying to prove your bullshit multiple times in a row, i just think your cocky as fuck... that's all

i'm just telling it how it is, you're the one constantly changing the subject and desperately trying to avoid conceding a relatively minor and inoffensive (to anyone except the stereotypical clanwars player, at least) point.

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all the things u spit out in this topic remains an opinion, that quite frankly just about ... no one at all shares with you.

the fact that i win the overwhelming majority of public servers whereas you and simpee don't is a fact. the fact that both of you feel you need to make excuses for that while i don't is a fact. the fact that i'm obviously much better leader material has a lot of track record behind it. the fact that i often galvanise inexperienced teammates into doing the effective strategies is a fact while people like you and simpee bitch at them or just leave, that's a fact (and you seem to think it works for your side of the argument, amazingly... i would expect something that stupid from simpee, but not you)

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and kill was better than me, you however... no

you miss the point. people had to make themselves feel better about the fact kill > them by saying exactly the same things you're saying about me now. you can't just acknowledge someone's better than you... they're trying too hard, you're not trying, the good players have all left, blah blah blah...

meanwhile you laugh at anyone who isn't as good as you, how pathetic can you get?

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jeez spoony your the only one left on this game that even cares enough to lead public people to victory but yeah great job...

there you have it ^^

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u were never even near the best at clanwars

actually most people at clanwars did think i was "near" the best, even though since become an admin i've hardly ever played all that competitively. you yourself would have DEFINITELY put me near the top if someone had asked you last week. now you're so angry at what i've said about public servers that your judgement is being clouded.

like i said, just calm down... this shouldn't upset you as much as it obviously does. if the game's dead and nobody cares, why are you so obviously unnerved? if who's the best isn't important, why have you tried so hard to prove it's simpee when it obviously isn't?


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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439545 is a reply to message #439171] Mon, 15 November 2010 08:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Best player I've seen recently is spoony.
Best player I've seen ever is zunnie's brother, chucky/ubisoft.



Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439546 is a reply to message #439171] Mon, 15 November 2010 08:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the funny thing is, the people being butthurt about spoony generally suck ass, and the only way they get a high ladder score is by pointwhoring with a broken points system

Spoony knows what to do, and while he may not be the LOL BEST SNIPER EVER or some bullshit like that he's pretty damn good on his feet when it comes to leading a random team of people who don't normally work together

that earns him quite a lot of "probably the best" points


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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439547 is a reply to message #439171] Mon, 15 November 2010 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439548 is a reply to message #439547] Mon, 15 November 2010 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tunaman wrote on Mon, 15 November 2010 11:13

I am the best player

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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439551 is a reply to message #439546] Mon, 15 November 2010 09:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Mon, 15 November 2010 09:22

the funny thing is, the people being butthurt about spoony generally suck ass, and the only way they get a high ladder score is by pointwhoring with a broken points system

Spoony knows what to do, and while he may not be the LOL BEST SNIPER EVER or some bullshit like that he's pretty damn good on his feet when it comes to leading a random team of people who don't normally work together

that earns him quite a lot of "probably the best" points


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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439553 is a reply to message #439171] Mon, 15 November 2010 10:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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what hes saying is that people who do all teh hard work and kill tanks dont deserve to be high on the scoreboard.
Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439556 is a reply to message #439553] Mon, 15 November 2010 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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it's sad that whenever anyone has any criticism of your completely fucking retarded point bug, simpee, the one which lets you get points for absolutely no reason and makes game results essentially random, your only response is by lying about what your debate opponents are saying.

this is why i say your compulsive lying is something pathological, simpee, cos it's obvious you don't realise how much damage you do to your own position every time you try it, and you've tried it hundreds of times.


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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439557 is a reply to message #439171] Mon, 15 November 2010 10:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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this topic has lost its amusement value about 8 pages ago
Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439558 is a reply to message #439171] Mon, 15 November 2010 11:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i suck for prefering to get mvp on a system that rewards killing tanks rather than prefering to get mvp by shooting buildings kkkkk
Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439559 is a reply to message #439558] Mon, 15 November 2010 11:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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except your system means there's absolutely no point playing offensively. why move further up to hammer the base if you get more or as many points hanging back and doing the easier job of killing tanks in the field? (yes, easier, despite the common misconception)

i expect that if you do clear the field of enemy tanks, it probably positively annoys you that a teammate takes advantage of the backup you're giving him to pound the shit out of the enemy base. in my case i'm glad someone's capitalising on the situation i've created, in your case you're fuming at losing your MVP


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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439560 is a reply to message #439171] Mon, 15 November 2010 12:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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all hail spoony the king of ren
Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439561 is a reply to message #439171] Mon, 15 November 2010 12:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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in my time it was

1. kill
2. simpee
3. clear
4. me/wrs
6. poison

then there was a gap

now we have a definite list and can stop arguing


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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439562 is a reply to message #439171] Mon, 15 November 2010 12:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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your right, it irritates me that i can try 10x harder than everyone and carry my team and still come 15th on the scoreboard.
Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439564 is a reply to message #439171] Mon, 15 November 2010 13:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i told u to stop

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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439572 is a reply to message #439171] Mon, 15 November 2010 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439582 is a reply to message #439546] Mon, 15 November 2010 17:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Mon, 15 November 2010 09:22

LOL BEST SNIPER EVER or some bullshit like that


This. Half the people in this thread give sniping more credit than it deserves.

And I've also noticed a correlation between "preferred sniper" and "chat-speak all the effing time".


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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439583 is a reply to message #439562] Mon, 15 November 2010 18:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ELiT3FLyR wrote on Mon, 15 November 2010 13:54

your right, it irritates me that i can try 10x harder than everyone and carry my team and still come 15th on the scoreboard.

hitman, remember when i said how eager you seemed to be to make excuses for simpee's unimpressive performance in public servers? i think you've got your work cut out for you now.

simpee, i always go for tanks before hitting buildings, and yet even on servers without your fucking retarded point bug, i'm almost always mvp or close to it, and unlike you i couldn't give a shit about mvp. so, do you want to reconsider what you're saying now about the pointsfix (i.e. "i try so much harder than everyone else and still come 15th"), or do you want to reconsider what you said about how good you are as a player (i.e. "i don't try and i still rape")?


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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439592 is a reply to message #439171] Mon, 15 November 2010 23:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i think simpee's point is a player can wreck every single vehicle on the opposing team and get far less credit (in terms of point value) than a person hitting the opposing team's buildings under the first player's cover

the skill required to do the former may heavily outweigh the latter but it does not matter because the latter (the player hitting buildings) will receive much more points for doing so

that's the way the game was set up; the players hitting buildings are supposed to get a lot more because they're damaging the more valuable targets, even if doing so is far easier than killing helicopters and tanks and infantry that fire back at you

what i think you should look into simpee is a ladder that rewards vehicle kills more than the original westwood ladder did
that way even if you don't get mvp or even close to it you'll still be ranked high because you did more (in terms of your team earning the win)


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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439598 is a reply to message #439171] Tue, 16 November 2010 04:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Caveman wrote on Fri, 21 January 2011 08:26

Well this topic is still going on. I have to say I haven't watched much Anime recently (maybe a year or so) the last thing I saw was GITS (for the third time)

Im not too sure whether I just dont enjoy Anime anymore or whether its just I dont have time really to shit and watch it.






Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439604 is a reply to message #439592] Tue, 16 November 2010 06:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 16 November 2010 00:04

i think simpee's point is a player can wreck every single vehicle on the opposing team and get far less credit (in terms of point value) than a person hitting the opposing team's buildings under the first player's cover

duhh?

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the skill required to do the former may heavily outweigh the latter but it does not matter because the latter (the player hitting buildings) will receive much more points for doing so

that's the way the game was set up; the players hitting buildings are supposed to get a lot more because they're damaging the more valuable targets, even if doing so is far easier than killing helicopters and tanks and infantry that fire back at you

if simpee and the other pro-pointbug morons were serious in this, here's what we ought to be seeing them say all the time:

"i drove a teammate and covered his beacon with my APC, he got 750 by killing the building and i only got 20 points killing a few engis, why shouldn't i have more points than him when what i did was more skilful?"
"i got a strip block APC at the beginning of complex/canyon and made sure nod didn't get a single vehicle, then 5 minutes later my teammates had meds stomping all over the nod base and we won. but i only have 50 points despite neutralising the entire enemy team's vehicle capacity"

why don't we ever hear them say this?

i strip block on complex and canyon all the time, and i frequently hand my team the victory on a plate that way. i'm often last in individual score by doing so, do you think i give a shit about that?

and why don't we ever hear them complain about someone on their team having a higher score by shooting tanks with a ramjet? a player who's doing absolutely NOTHING to help the team's situation (and takes fuck all in the way of skill, and which is MUCH easier to do than hammer enemy buildings with an art cos you don't have to be in enemy territory) but getting thousands of points? not only do they never complain about this, they ridicule me for complaining about it.


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pretty sure im still best playa

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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439621 is a reply to message #439609] Tue, 16 November 2010 09:25 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I don't understand simpee (and many pointsbugs folks). When we talk about the core reasons as to why pointsbug is bad and give the solid reasons, there is nothing but silence. Then weeks or months later when the topic or issue is forgotten, we see them posting a totally one-sided statement like "yeah we do the hard work killing vehs and infantry and not get enough points!"

anyway, from my own experience as public flyer, it was pure greed that made me despise the pointsfix initially because I could no longer get mvp. I grew out of wanting the mvp and instead want a fairer system.

It all began in n00bstories wall-flying when I got an apache and hit the harv. I noticed I wasn't getting any points. I also attacked a full green health stolen light tank and noticed I wasn't getting any points. I logged on to the server because it was walls_flying and an easy mvp. Was so disappointed/angry that day. Eventually I got over my greed and I hope others follow suit.

The vain egotism you get especially from people who fly are incredible in this game. I was no exception once upon a time. Flying is obviously the most agile place to be in and means easy kills, best kill/death, and with pointsbug a guaranteed mvp even before the map has loaded! Just the other day on St0rm walls_flying, I joined late and met the most fucked up greedy retard 3OH!3 in a apache who was having 8000 points in a stalemate map lol and bragging about killing so many vehicles and infantry and how he was best playa. He claimed to have killed 75 vehicles and had about 40 kills. After less then 10 mins in a orca, I got 31 kills and stole his K/D and out of what is sheer greed, he began to call me names saying how I wasn't as good as him. He was so angry that he lost his k/d lol.

No wonder you find such fucked up selfish dimwits in a pointsbugged server. They are too busy playing for themselves and the green-health vehicle points bug gives them this false sense of skill when they would suck big time in a pointsfixed server. Where did their "skill" go in a pointsfixed server lmfao this shit is funny.

I have countless times "carried my team" by killing hordes of APCs filled with engis and techs and squished them before they can run into a buildings. I have killed countless vehicles and ambushed inumerable havocs and sneaking techs with a flying vehicle and I am quiet content with the points (and attention in the form of "fucking cheater" accusations lol) I am getting. And I hate to break it to everyone, it is one of the easiest things to do in the game and in noway does it come anywhere near "hard work" lol.

pointsbug lovers would rather play a game of attrition rather than a game where true progress (in the sense of building kills) is made because they can always come out with a MVP.

The greed is why we keep hearing about pointsfix vs pointsbug all the time over and over. If they are truly concerned about the gameplay imbalances that the pointsbug gives, they will look at the whole picture and make concessions.

Last week on Jelly AOW walls_fly, a newbie legea8 in a stolen flamer was in front of our base shooting the flames. The entrance was c4'ed to hell. Only our PP remained and I think GDI had a few buildings left. Overall the GDI team killed the most buildings, had pointslead, and the timer was running out and they deserved to win. But everyone basically got soldiers and shot the flamer. We won by an absurd 6 points. If this is not showing the fucked up nature of pointsbug, I don't know what does. This is why it is incredibly important that the pointsbug is done away with because it directly affects the ladder points. Take a good look at the endgame screen:



If I was on GDI, I would be quiet angry as it was a totally undeserved defeat and loss of ladder points to many. Not to mention that legea8 got the hell flamed out of him the next map. I bet he felt like shit and didn't even know why. How was he supposed to know this game has a fucking bug and that he was giving away a victory by simply being in front of the enemy base? This goes flying against those who say the pointsbug was intended lol. It doesn't even naturally occur to anyone that you can get points in a retarded way like that.

So when someone comes and tells that this is the system that they want to fight it, it simply shows a reckless greed and disregard for fairplay.


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