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| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Mon, 08 November 2010 05:16 |
| Dover wrote on Sun, 07 November 2010 20:18 |
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Sun, 07 November 2010 14:00 |
"and GDI's technology doesn't get set back"
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I think they explained pretty well why they moved away from the walker nonsense in C&C 3. It didn't look as cool as people claimed it did in TS anyway.
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Oh it's not even the lack of walkers. They lacked hover stuff, their scout units were wheel based, etc. It all felt like the technology was between TD and TS is the thing. I can dig the lack of walkers (Although I really did miss Titans), but in whole the technology just felt like it was set back from TS.
I haven't played C&C4, but I rather liked the unit designs (except the Crayola avatar). They felt more like what C&C3's should have been.
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But the thing is, logically walkers would be extremely pointless, of course walkers are made of awesome just for the hell of it. In combat their high profile means easy target. The only benefit is perhaps longer range for artillery fire, but you got proper artillery units for that. Bipedal motion is utterly useless. The only okay walker is Wolverine, as their small size might actually mean decent mobility. Even if EA made that or something decent for the reason for GDI abandoning walkers, instead of HURR 2 EXPENSIVE. I would've been okay with it.
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| Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #439113 is a reply to message #438227] |
Mon, 08 November 2010 23:31 |
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Not to mention that in every single one of their games, they have completely avoided any and all forms of match customization.
Oh, so I can change starting credits and toggle random crates (that do nothing except level up a unit, heal a unit or give you free money.)
Not only should there be way more options of crate abilities (like gift units and fog-of-war clearing) but there should be options that allow players to customize the game. I mean, the option to disable super weapons AT LEAST.
There should be a population cap option, engineer function option (1 or multi engineer to capture a structure), an option to enable/disable FoW regeneration, tech level, enable/disable ability to repair civilian structures (like garrison buildings and bridges) and a whole lot more.
The more options added, the more replay value there will be. The novelty of the game will linger longer and people will have more fun with it.
I think they are afraid that it will screw up their dream of 'RTS as a sport.'
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| Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #439158 is a reply to message #439110] |
Wed, 10 November 2010 04:42 |
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GEORGE ZIMMER
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| sadukar09 wrote on Mon, 08 November 2010 21:53 |
But the thing is, logically walkers would be extremely pointless, of course walkers are made of awesome just for the hell of it. In combat their high profile means easy target. The only benefit is perhaps longer range for artillery fire, but you got proper artillery units for that. Bipedal motion is utterly useless. The only okay walker is Wolverine, as their small size might actually mean decent mobility. Even if EA made that or something decent for the reason for GDI abandoning walkers, instead of HURR 2 EXPENSIVE. I would've been okay with it.
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Oh of course they'd be logically pointless. But they were still pretty cool, and still had them in TS.
Yeah, the sudden change of direction because DERP TOO EXPENSIVE was really shitty. Then they just give a subfaction mechs back, and then go a bit overboard with C&C4...
Besides, it's a game. It doesn't really have to follow logic and realism at every damn point (as if C&C was ever that realistic)
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| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!   
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| Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #439159 is a reply to message #439113] |
Wed, 10 November 2010 06:03 |
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| R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 08 November 2010 22:31 |
I think they are afraid that it will screw up their dream of 'RTS as a sport.' [/color]
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Which is funny, because the games that have actually managed this (StarCraft, StarCraft II, WarCract III) have super insane customization, and put the map editor of any C&C game to shame. And the game that came closest in the C&C series (Red Alert 1) was also the easiest to mod.
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| Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #439165 is a reply to message #439159] |
Wed, 10 November 2010 08:52 |
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| Dover wrote on Wed, 10 November 2010 07:03 |
| R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 08 November 2010 22:31 |
I think they are afraid that it will screw up their dream of 'RTS as a sport.' [/color]
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Which is funny, because the games that have actually managed this (StarCraft, StarCraft II, WarCract III) have super insane customization, and put the map editor of any C&C game to shame. And the game that came closest in the C&C series (Red Alert 1) was also the easiest to mod.
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Precisely. It's pretty damn sad how much EA tried to turn C&C into a HURRR E-SPORT, and yet they ended up being the least enjoyable games to play competitively.
Toggle Spoiler| Scrin wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 13:22 |
| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!
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| Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #439237 is a reply to message #439191] |
Thu, 11 November 2010 00:44 |
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| trooprm02 wrote on Wed, 10 November 2010 12:51 |
@SSnipe, thats a zero hour prima guide....
@C&C 4, even if you don't like it you should have bought it release day to show support....Ive literally loaded it up twice (once when I installed it to just test it) and have yet to even a play an online game (I don't play SP), but I still paid $50 for it. If nobody bought it, why would EA make another C&C game?
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I'm hoping they don't. Just let the series rest in peace and leave my fond childhood memories intact. :[
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #439262 is a reply to message #439191] |
Thu, 11 November 2010 08:11 |
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GEORGE ZIMMER
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| trooprm02 wrote on Wed, 10 November 2010 14:51 |
@SSnipe, thats a zero hour prima guide....
@C&C 4, even if you don't like it you should have bought it release day to show support....Ive literally loaded it up twice (once when I installed it to just test it) and have yet to even a play an online game (I don't play SP), but I still paid $50 for it. If nobody bought it, why would EA make another C&C game?
Buy it now even if you don't like it. Hell, I spent $100 on MW2 so far and have 20 hours on it since the midnight release last year...
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I disagree. If what they're doing to a franchise is bad, you shouldn't support it.
Despite that, I bought C&C3. I tried to like it. I really did. I just... couldn't.
RA3 I'd buy if my disk drive wasn't a pile of horsecock, and no way am I using EA's shitty download thing.
Toggle Spoiler| Scrin wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 13:22 |
| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!
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| Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #439295 is a reply to message #439262] |
Fri, 12 November 2010 02:43 |
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| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Thu, 11 November 2010 07:11 |
RA3 I'd buy if my disk drive wasn't a pile of horsecock, and no way am I using EA's shitty download thing.
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You'd regret it if you did. The only decent thing about that game is the soundtrack, which somehow manages to be ten times the serious the story/gameplay is.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #439297 is a reply to message #438227] |
Fri, 12 November 2010 02:46 |
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I bought C&C3 and enjoyed it, single player and online. I bought Kane's wrath and enjoyed it single player and coop online (no pvp though). I bought RA3 and just managed to finish single player because I thought I had to at least do that for my 50 €. No way I was gonna spend another 50 on C&C4.
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| Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #439336 is a reply to message #439295] |
Fri, 12 November 2010 11:33 |
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| Dover wrote on Fri, 12 November 2010 03:43 |
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Thu, 11 November 2010 07:11 |
RA3 I'd buy if my disk drive wasn't a pile of horsecock, and no way am I using EA's shitty download thing.
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You'd regret it if you did. The only decent thing about that game is the soundtrack, which somehow manages to be ten times the serious the story/gameplay is.
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I dunno, the gameplay at least seems more tactical. I'd enjoy it more than C&C3, though the lack of mods would bore me pretty quick.
Honestly though, I can make a mod with better gameplay in Yuri's Revenge than EA can for a game they spend tons of money making. It's sad.
Toggle Spoiler| Scrin wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 13:22 |
| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!
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| Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #439344 is a reply to message #438227] |
Fri, 12 November 2010 13:03 |
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R315r4z0r
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RA3 is definitely better than C&C3. I feel like it requires more thinking than previous games and that the units you chose to use really make all the difference in a battle.
With C&C3 it's build a crane, spam refineries and spam 100 of whatever unit until you can win.
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