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Renegade is not dead [message #437308] Fri, 01 October 2010 16:08 Go to next message
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Right now its one day ago that the renladder got reset
http://renladder.blackhand-studios.net

I have been scrolling trough the whole list and it appears there are 1133 people that played Renegade online today!

For me this is a big suprise, I thought it would only be 200 or something.

The reason why I actually post is that I hope more people will play for rank to get some competition going on Smile

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Re: Renegade is not dead [message #437316 is a reply to message #437308] Fri, 01 October 2010 19:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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1133 people? Considering there are only a few servers that can even get 15+ players that sounds like bullshit.
Re: Renegade is not dead [message #437322 is a reply to message #437308] Sat, 02 October 2010 00:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why would it sound like bullshit, the evidence is right here.

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Re: Renegade is not dead [message #437323 is a reply to message #437322] Sat, 02 October 2010 02:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Di3HardNL wrote on Sat, 02 October 2010 09:22

Why would it sound like bullshit, the evidence is right here.


It's not evidence. This ladder just counts every playername. Considering the possibility that some players have a different name for different servers, it might as well just be 400 players max with 3 names each.

So yes, in some way, it's bullshit.
Re: Renegade is not dead [message #437326 is a reply to message #437308] Sat, 02 October 2010 03:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well. There was times when in ladder was over 6000 players. Next to this ladder arent sended data from all servers.
Re: Renegade is not dead [message #437327 is a reply to message #437308] Sat, 02 October 2010 03:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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wow didnt know that.
I just started playing again since 2 years.

540 IReconI 10004 40 46 0.87 7

Pretty funny that the wol ladder works Smile

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Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 18 February 2011 23:50

I figured some people will still go LOLOLOL STARVING CATS LOOOOLZ UR A FAG or some dumb shit like that. Thanks for not disappointing! Smile

Re: Renegade is not dead [message #437329 is a reply to message #437308] Sat, 02 October 2010 04:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I could smurf nick a server with like 20+ names and they would all show up on the ladder.

Those stats dont mean anything.
Re: Renegade is not dead [message #437331 is a reply to message #437308] Sat, 02 October 2010 04:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You guys want it to die or something with your negative responses?
And you can't smurf with 20 names because 9 is the limit.

FU AND PLAY


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Re: Renegade is not dead [message #437332 is a reply to message #437331] Sat, 02 October 2010 05:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Di3HardNL wrote on Sat, 02 October 2010 13:27

You guys want it to die or something with your negative responses?
And you can't smurf with 20 names because 9 is the limit.

FU AND PLAY


Are you stupid? Direct-connect names are included in that ladder too, so in that case: "there is NO limit".
Re: Renegade is not dead [message #437334 is a reply to message #437308] Sat, 02 October 2010 05:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Does that ladder's technical backend log serial hashes, or anything? Can we count the unique players?

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Re: Renegade is not dead [message #437336 is a reply to message #437332] Sat, 02 October 2010 06:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I never used direct-connect so I didn't know that.
Stupid people are those who make multiple names on one day, probably like you Anon.

And I don't know if it can count unique players.



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Re: Renegade is not dead [message #437337 is a reply to message #437334] Sat, 02 October 2010 06:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CarrierII wrote on Sat, 02 October 2010 14:34

Does that ladder's technical backend log serial hashes, or anything? Can we count the unique players?


As far as I know it currently doesn't log the serial hashes, so every name is counted.

Di3HardNL wrote on sat, 02 October 2010 15:09

Stupid people are those who make multiple names on one day, probably like you Anon.


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Re: Renegade is not dead [message #437345 is a reply to message #437308] Sat, 02 October 2010 09:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You know the ladder is shit right? (I mean this not to offend)
But you can exploit it and set yourself to rank 1. So it kinda doesnt matter. But it is nice to see people playing.


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Re: Renegade is not dead [message #437347 is a reply to message #437323] Sat, 02 October 2010 09:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Anon wrote on Sat, 02 October 2010 05:38

Di3HardNL wrote on Sat, 02 October 2010 09:22

Why would it sound like bullshit, the evidence is right here.


It's not evidence. This ladder just counts every playername. Considering the possibility that some players have a different name for different servers, it might as well just be 400 players max with 3 names each.

So yes, in some way, it's bullshit.


No. 90% of players only use a single nick...sure, maybe 5% use 2-3, and the remaining 5% use 5-10, but the vast majority don't.


Re: Renegade is not dead [message #437349 is a reply to message #437308] Sat, 02 October 2010 09:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ok ok calm down all.
you most probally all just should use a math formula to prove this stuff.


Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 18 February 2011 23:50

I figured some people will still go LOLOLOL STARVING CATS LOOOOLZ UR A FAG or some dumb shit like that. Thanks for not disappointing! Smile

Re: Renegade is not dead [message #437358 is a reply to message #437308] Sat, 02 October 2010 13:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nice little statistic to see! Sure it might not be entirely accurate, but that's still a lot higher than I thought.
Re: Renegade is not dead [message #437362 is a reply to message #437308] Sat, 02 October 2010 14:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's probably close to half of that in reality. When ren came out I remember there being nearly 40 000 unique names on the WOL ladder, plus GSA of course.

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Re: Renegade is not dead [message #437366 is a reply to message #437308] Sat, 02 October 2010 16:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Everyone stop being negative! Our negativity (calling bullshit) is killing Renegade!
Re: Renegade is not dead [message #437367 is a reply to message #437308] Sat, 02 October 2010 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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renegade = bullshit.

bullshit = what the renegade community amuses.

The thing what amuses the renegade community = other peoples life


Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 18 February 2011 23:50

I figured some people will still go LOLOLOL STARVING CATS LOOOOLZ UR A FAG or some dumb shit like that. Thanks for not disappointing! Smile

Re: Renegade is not dead [message #437368 is a reply to message #437367] Sat, 02 October 2010 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well that's not true. Other people's lives bore me when I'm on the internet. The drama, releases, and unpredictable behaviors of many is what keeps me coming to RenForums. Not to mention my general love for the game, and this being the official Renegade forums Sarcasm

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Re: Renegade is not dead [message #437369 is a reply to message #437323] Sat, 02 October 2010 17:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Anon wrote on Sat, 02 October 2010 05:38

Di3HardNL wrote on Sat, 02 October 2010 09:22

Why would it sound like bullshit, the evidence is right here.


It's not evidence. This ladder just counts every playername. Considering the possibility that some players have a different name for different servers, it might as well just be 400 players max with 3 names each.

So yes, in some way, it's bullshit.

Ok... so 400 people have 2 or 3 different names that they use regularly?

That makes no sense at all. I can see maybe 10 or 20 people who have multiple names... but 400? That's just not practical. It would be annoying to switch between names for each server you play. It's just so completely retarded I can't even imagine people doing it.

Your theory is the one I call BS on.

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R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 02 October 2010 19:31

Ok... so 400 people have 2 or 3 different names that they use regularly?

That makes no sense at all. I can see maybe 10 or 20 people who have multiple names... but 400? That's just not practical. It would be annoying to switch between names for each server you play. It's just so completely retarded I can't even imagine people doing it.



I mostly agree, although I know from experience that it's easy to misspell your name if you use Resurrection, for example.
And I imagine that cheaters/hackers might try using several different names (more than just 3) to try and evade bans and detection.

Those factors can push it higher, but not all the way to 1000+ people. It probably contributes, though.


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Re: Renegade is not dead [message #437389 is a reply to message #437362] Sun, 03 October 2010 04:15 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Homey wrote on Sat, 02 October 2010 23:41

It's probably close to half of that in reality. When ren came out I remember there being nearly 40 000 unique names on the WOL ladder, plus GSA of course.


Yes that is in the entire month, I was talking about one day.
In the archives you can see there were 7000 players last month.
I agree here that those are not 7000 unique players, I would guess like 5000 unique players.

February 26, 2002 - 40.000 players
October 30, 2010 - 5.000 players

There are 3168 days between these dates.

35.000/3168 = 11. Which means we lose 11 players everyday.
5.000/11 = 454. Which means Renegade will last 454 more days.

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