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| DRNG wrote on Tue, 27 July 2010 19:40 |
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| R315r4z0r wrote on Tue, 27 July 2010 19:32 |
Yea, 4 vs All. Best game mode ever invented in Renegade. Ever.
The only downside is that the 4 players really have to know what they are doing and work well together. If you think you know teamwork from playing in competitive clan wars, then you don't know half the stuff you think you know.
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The downside of 4vsAll was having to deal with Sunami3's super rage.
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LOL, I forgot about that. If you ever got PMed by Sunami, you instantly knew you did something to piss him off.
..And then A1 would get mad at him for getting mad at the players and kick him off the computer for the rest of the night.
Good times, good times.
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He'd be kicked off, and then the daughter (Rengirl) would come on and play in his place.
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oh shit
I remember all that
A1 kicked me out of his community because I called him out on being a WoWfag
good times
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| Re: What's your lowest point in renegade been? [message #433641 is a reply to message #433640] |
Tue, 27 July 2010 19:23 |
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| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 27 July 2010 21:19 |
| DRNG wrote on Tue, 27 July 2010 19:40 |
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| DRNG wrote on Tue, 27 July 2010 20:34 |
| R315r4z0r wrote on Tue, 27 July 2010 19:32 |
Yea, 4 vs All. Best game mode ever invented in Renegade. Ever.
The only downside is that the 4 players really have to know what they are doing and work well together. If you think you know teamwork from playing in competitive clan wars, then you don't know half the stuff you think you know.
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The downside of 4vsAll was having to deal with Sunami3's super rage.
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LOL, I forgot about that. If you ever got PMed by Sunami, you instantly knew you did something to piss him off.
..And then A1 would get mad at him for getting mad at the players and kick him off the computer for the rest of the night.
Good times, good times.
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He'd be kicked off, and then the daughter (Rengirl) would come on and play in his place.
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oh shit
I remember all that
A1 kicked me out of his community because I called him out on being a WoWfag
good times
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He was a pretty cool guy, and fun to play with. Unfortunately he and his server took a lot of flak.
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| Re: What's your lowest point in renegade been? [message #433644 is a reply to message #433483] |
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The NS/Exodus split. People in high positions on both sides could have easily prevented much of the hemorrhaging had there been some foresight and a little more 'smart' to go around.
C'est la vie.
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| Re: What's your lowest point in renegade been? [message #433873 is a reply to message #433644] |
Fri, 30 July 2010 22:51 |
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Tue, 27 July 2010 21:49 |
The NS/Exodus split. People in high positions on both sides could have easily prevented much of the hemorrhaging had there been some foresight and a little more 'smart' to go around.
C'est la vie.
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I find this confusing tbh. If that were in fact your lowest point then why did you do it? For that matter why have you not tried to fix it?
If I could save Ren/bring players back to Ren (referance to my low point) I sure as hell would.
(not intented to create a flame/drama/rage/stupid situation)
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| Re: What's your lowest point in renegade been? [message #433943 is a reply to message #433873] |
Sat, 31 July 2010 13:54 |
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| luv2pb wrote on Sat, 31 July 2010 00:51 |
| nikki6ixx wrote on Tue, 27 July 2010 21:49 |
The NS/Exodus split. People in high positions on both sides could have easily prevented much of the hemorrhaging had there been some foresight and a little more 'smart' to go around.
C'est la vie.
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I find this confusing tbh. If that were in fact your lowest point then why did you do it? For that matter why have you not tried to fix it?
If I could save Ren/bring players back to Ren (referance to my low point) I sure as hell would.
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If you're asking me individually, I can only say that I did try to curb it, both on NS and Exodus, as did others.
On NS' forums, I remained, and posted on the Marketing section a couple topics asking for reconciliation, and toning down stuff like the word filter, and immediate disabling of PM rights. Plenty of people who 'left' still wanted to remain on good terms with NS, and would likely have been happy to come back after a while after things chilled out.
At Exodus, I was given Admin privileges, but had them taken off so I could still try and work in NS' Marketing and not be cast off as some sort of interloper on either side.
But for whatever reason, my access on Marketing was cut abruptly, without any explanation.
Even before that, I was busying myself with organizing NS 10v10's, and intercommunity wars, along with MUDKIPS, and others. They were surprisingly successful too; one of the things that upset me most about the big RQ was that NS was really getting into the commwar swing, and not doing all that badly either.
After the RQ, I lost privileges to the forum to help organize more matches, as well as the playerbase that participated. I wasn't pleased with this, but I didn't fuss because then I figured it'd be futile, and written off as 'faildus rage' or something to that nature.
Additionally, in the IRC channel #jason761 on NS' network during the whole ordeal, there were quite a few of us saying that we ought to slow everything down, and wait; we were actually doing quite well until the channel was shut down. Not only did that take us off guard, but we were made out to be people who were anti-Crimson, and anti-NS.
I'm even going to say that had I had access to the moderator's forum and posted in the 'ragequit' thread, it would've likely slowed the tide. I know that sounds terribly big of me to say so, but I do believe that would've been the case. Of course, I turned down a couple invitations to moderate, so in hindsight, I was a real moron.
After being cut off from Marketing, and the closure of #jason761, I felt NS was not interested in reconciling differences. That was only reaffirmed with other intrusions into Exodus' space, and back-biting between both sides.
In response to your second point, the community I belong to has always been trying to keep the Ren community together in the broader sense. Exodus merged with a couple smaller communities, including the dedicated Renz0r crew who occupy a small, but significant area of the game.
Exodus' hosting, and organization of the RGCT is also another indication of how the community is out to support the game. I feel that is an adequate way of trying to keep people around, and I'd say it's been relatively successful.
Thirdly, I can only assume that 'fixing' involves a re-integration with NS. After all the mudslinging that took place, and some really bad calls and moves by either side, that simply cannot happen. I did my best, as did some others, but moves by yourself, and Crimson negated any goodwill we were trying to rebuild. Those were your decisions, though. Perhaps in your shoes I may have acted the same, who knows. I've gotten over any bitterness, and am now just concerned the business of helping in Exodus however I can.
So there's my super-long, ReneRun-down.
Edit: Mixed up my commwar match history. Thanks liquid. 
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| Re: What's your lowest point in renegade been? [message #433951 is a reply to message #433873] |
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| luv2pb wrote on Sat, 31 July 2010 06:51 |
| nikki6ixx wrote on Tue, 27 July 2010 21:49 |
The NS/Exodus split. People in high positions on both sides could have easily prevented much of the hemorrhaging had there been some foresight and a little more 'smart' to go around.
C'est la vie.
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I find this confusing tbh. If that were in fact your lowest point then why did you do it? For that matter why have you not tried to fix it?
If I could save Ren/bring players back to Ren (referance to my low point) I sure as hell would.
(not intented to create a flame/drama/rage/stupid situation)
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Not trying to be funny, as i was not part of NS or the rq, but now part of the senior staff at Exodus.
Maybe i'm more impartial than the others to this. I do make humourous comments etc, but i do think both sides could have done alot more. Your guys caused some very good guys i know to completely rage. They probably shouldn't have raged i know, but it wouldn't have hurt your administration to be abit more humble in your approach.
but then again, the split benefitted me, so why do i care 
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For a commwar against Exodus, pm me.
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| Re: What's your lowest point in renegade been? [message #433980 is a reply to message #433943] |
Sat, 31 July 2010 21:07 |
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Sat, 31 July 2010 15:54 |
| luv2pb wrote on Sat, 31 July 2010 00:51 |
| nikki6ixx wrote on Tue, 27 July 2010 21:49 |
The NS/Exodus split. People in high positions on both sides could have easily prevented much of the hemorrhaging had there been some foresight and a little more 'smart' to go around.
C'est la vie.
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I find this confusing tbh. If that were in fact your lowest point then why did you do it? For that matter why have you not tried to fix it?
If I could save Ren/bring players back to Ren (referance to my low point) I sure as hell would.
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If you're asking me individually, I can only say that I did try to curb it, both on NS and Exodus, as did others.
On NS' forums, I remained, and posted on the Marketing section a couple topics asking for reconciliation, and toning down stuff like the word filter, and immediate disabling of PM rights. Plenty of people who 'left' still wanted to remain on good terms with NS, and would likely have been happy to come back after a while after things chilled out.
At Exodus, I was given Admin privileges, but had them taken off so I could still try and work in NS' Marketing and not be cast off as some sort of interloper on either side.
But for whatever reason, my access on Marketing was cut abruptly, without any explanation.
Even before that, I was busying myself with organizing NS 10v10's, and intercommunity wars, along with MUDKIPS, and others. They were surprisingly successful too; one of the things that upset me most about the big RQ was that it occurred right after NS' victory over Jelly in a commwar; Jelly was so embarrassed about it that they kept saying it was a funwar. Whatever floats their boat, lol.
After the RQ, I lost privileges to the forum to help organize more matches, as well as the playerbase that participated. I wasn't pleased with this, but I didn't fuss because then I figured it'd be futile, and written off as 'faildus rage' or something to that nature.
Additionally, in the IRC channel #jason761 on NS' network during the whole ordeal, there were quite a few of us saying that we ought to slow everything down, and wait; we were actually doing quite well until the channel was shut down. Not only did that take us off guard, but we were made out to be people who were anti-Crimson, and anti-NS.
I'm even going to say that had I had access to the moderator's forum and posted in the 'ragequit' thread, it would've likely slowed the tide. I know that sounds terribly big of me to say so, but I do believe that would've been the case. Of course, I turned down a couple invitations to moderate, so in hindsight, I was a real moron.
After being cut off from Marketing, and the closure of #jason761, I felt NS was not interested in reconciling differences. That was only reaffirmed with other intrusions into Exodus' space, and back-biting between both sides.
In response to your second point, the community I belong to has always been trying to keep the Ren community together in the broader sense. Exodus merged with a couple smaller communities, including the dedicated Renz0r crew who occupy a small, but significant area of the game.
Exodus' hosting, and organization of the RGCT is also another indication of how the community is out to support the game. I feel that is an adequate way of trying to keep people around, and I'd say it's been relatively successful.
Thirdly, I can only assume that 'fixing' involves a re-integration with NS. After all the mudslinging that took place, and some really bad calls and moves by either side, that simply cannot happen. I did my best, as did some others, but moves by yourself, and Crimson negated any goodwill we were trying to rebuild. Those were your decisions, though. Perhaps in your shoes I may have acted the same, who knows. I've gotten over any bitterness, and am now just concerned the business of helping in Exodus however I can.
So there's my super-long, ReneRun-down.
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I didn't mean to imply I thought reintergration was a fix or even that there was a fix. I just found it a strange response that I honestly didn't think would come up in this thread. It's kinda like saying the low point in my life is when I installed WOW. Ok, so fix it. Un-install it, go take a shower and get out in the world. I guess you just have enough balls to put a little pride aside and say it.
The marketing team went very cold after the split. It wasn't till later that creed stepped up and finally brought some much needed life to it. At that point he started fresh. You not being part of it was honestly not intended as spite but simply because you were not around. There was a obvious conflict of interest but to this point every one who has wanted to come back we have been able to work with. All you had to do is say something.
Many people like to credit both sides with epic failures. Tbh, I think there was a heavy case of over reacting but there was no stopping that snow ball. 51% of the problem comes down to one persons poor decisions that sadly a year later still creates the complete scope of the problem. The other 49% is simply pride of course.
Since were being all open and shit I feel it necessary to share back. The original intent of the "great ragequit 2010" forum thing was actually for a purpose not just to be an enormous failure of nothing. I had written up multiple things meant to rectify some of the fail and at the very least create an environment that wasn't hostile. We were debating the finer points about a month before n00bparty when we scraped the idea. Some one decided it was necessary, a year later, to run their mouth. I'm not gonna out the person as it server no purpose at this point but the attitude was just arrogant and stupid. It grounded us and reminded us why this whole mess happened in the first place and that nothing had changed. We decided to just stay the course and keep doing what we do. We know the stats, the numbers and who is actually playing in our server.
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| Re: What's your lowest point in renegade been? [message #433983 is a reply to message #433980] |
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I thought the Ragequit 2010 dealio was pretty hilarious after we saw what it was. A couple responses I read on NS were solid gold.
As for the marketing stuff, I didn't think the span of time between my posts was that long. But that's a year ago, so it's hazy. No harm done, and Creed does a bang-up job. Either way, my input would've likely been about 'community relations' between NS and Exodus so in the scheme of things, I probably would've been even more useless in that department than I was before the split. =P
For your first point, I get what you're saying. I felt like just forgetting about it. I had school, I had work, and other things in the mix. But I decided to 'invest' my time to the place...
Others, and myself liked the group of people we had, and felt that it'd be a loss to Renegade if they either just joined different communities, or leave, or just play without a place to frequent. That was my chief concern, and I think we succeeded in that regard because we still keep a lot of friends from NS around on the forums that may have just gone away. Server performance was not my #1 priority; community retention was.
The reason I feel that it was lowest point in my Renegade experience was just that almost overnight. NS had a tight community with a lot of cool people split in a very angry fashion. Renegade to me was more about n00bstories, the community, than the game.
I think for quite a few people the situation was a low point. So I wanted to help make it better. Working within Exodus, and making it a fun community was the best way to do it, given the options I had.
I'm happy that you guys had spent time deliberating on a friendlier atmosphere. That does mean a lot, both to me but also the community. It's a shame that something occurred to stop that, although I'm unaware of what it was. Whatever the case, I do hope you guys decide to pick it up again.
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| Re: What's your lowest point in renegade been? [message #434566 is a reply to message #433483] |
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Interesting topic reborn....well, I can say I've had a few:
1)The destruction of jelly server: before xwis took over, it didn't have the highest a00 nicks, but it was still top 10 and thats where all the good people played (including top clanwars players), but soon after they acquired the higher nicks, most of the clanwars players stopped playing renegade entirely, coupled with all the competent mods/admin leaving jelly gave me nowhere to play really
2)When people in my own clan moved on to other PC games, or just stop playing games entirely. Having 4-5 of us on teamspeak and playing with some of the top ranked people in the game was some of the best renegading I've ever done (ranks from 2006, http://i33.tinypic.com/25i87x2.jpg)
3)The real death of playing Renegade competitively: clanwars.cc post 2007 was never the same as in previous years anyway, but atleast over the holidays and summer time people would come back to play, but in the summer of 2009 (and this summer too unfortunately) it did not happen.
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| Re: What's your lowest point in renegade been? [message #434621 is a reply to message #433483] |
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Had a few low points in order:
-shutdown of Jelly Mappack in early 2008. god I loved that server and had tons of friends with whom my connection was cut off in a matter of minutes. Most of them just disappeared. Only Orca234, Goulagd, and zultar remain...so am eagerly waiting for the server to be operational again after the TT patch rolls out. lol those were the days of fame and glory! People hated my camping Orca on Terrace. Damn I miss those times on Cairo and Last Stand. btw, I got my first ever long range kill with ramjet on Last Stand (using Havoc against 500 sniper). great times words cannot define...so many memories.
-Death of spoonplex in Jan 2009. I have heard that he was sick and ailing for a while then but he was a great friend of mine. I just wish I had known him more. I signed in on Ren sometime on Jan 19 and my heart dropped to the floor when I saw "RIP spoonplex" on the J2 server title. Then I went to the forums and read the news. Dark day indeed.
-Shutdown of EKT sometime in late 2008-2009. When I first played Renegade during my first days in Jan 2007, I played at EKT Goku's Marathon. took the first baby steps there. lol I would buy and Orca on city_fly and go right side and then BOOM! I had a few good friends there including vanillaface and Goku too. I know there are some EKT drama and stuff but hey I didn't know all that and to me those 2 ppl among others were nice to me a lot. So yeah, I just miss those days. It was also funny to be able to buy Orcas on all maps for like 7000 credits.
Just a lot of memories for sure. but personally the lowest most insulted point in Ren was here:
http://www.n00bstories.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=12650&start=0&r id=8926
never had such a raging dumb douche halfwit who didn't know how the SBH suit works in-game yell so much xxxx about "cheating" at me. the thread is funny now.
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| Re: What's your lowest point in renegade been? [message #434765 is a reply to message #433483] |
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There's been a few memories that ended up quite sad:-
1. The collapse of Boaz Gaming, I loved Boaz and Sooite - both were epic people
2. The departure of raven from Desert Elites, and handing SniperPro the reigns, and then later followed by the collapse of Desert Elites and sadly Nite Serv.
3. After the re-birth, Shinigami giving iAmHeyi administrator status at Nite Serv, was really a dumb move in my opinion, but the community later died permanently...
4. The Atomix/Allied split - I seriously lost a lot of friends then, and I lost one of the greatest group of people to play community wars with, but it also got rid of some idiots I couldn't be bothered with.
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Well this topic is still going on. I have to say I haven't watched much Anime recently (maybe a year or so) the last thing I saw was GITS (for the third time)
Im not too sure whether I just dont enjoy Anime anymore or whether its just I dont have time really to shit and watch it.
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| Re: What's your lowest point in renegade been? [message #434769 is a reply to message #434765] |
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| Hypnos wrote on Sat, 14 August 2010 09:54 |
1. The collapse of Boaz Gaming, I loved Boaz and Sooite - both were epic people
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I forgot about Boaz  That was an awesome place
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| Re: What's your lowest point in renegade been? [message #434823 is a reply to message #433483] |
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I SAID TAKE IT ELSEWHERE. START A "BASH TROOP" THREAD* IF YOU WANT.
*: Don't, the split I'm about to do will be it.
Is it possible for you to not spark arguments, troop?
Now I have to split a thread, which is a really time consuming, boring thing to do.
Liquid, if he bothers you, use the ignore option.
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