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Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #431987] Sun, 04 July 2010 03:54 Go to next message
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After their former hosting provider received an injunction telling it to stop providing bandwidth to The Pirate Bay, the worlds most resilient BitTorrent site switched to a new ISP. That host, the Swedish Pirate Party, made a stand on principle. Now they aim to take things further by running the site from inside the Swedish Parliament.

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Way to piss a shitload of people off.


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Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432014 is a reply to message #431987] Sun, 04 July 2010 10:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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From the comment section.

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If my family is starving for wont of bread I have the moral right to steal said bread.

This is not the horse and buggy age, it's the electronic age. If my family is starving for wont of knowledge then I have the moral right (and the obligation) to pirate that knowledge.


lmao what a dumbass.


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Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432057 is a reply to message #431987] Sun, 04 July 2010 16:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bittorrent is perfectly legal, and they have every right to use a provision in their own countries constitution.

Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432060 is a reply to message #431987] Sun, 04 July 2010 16:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I at least wish Canada had a similar party to draw attention to all the copyright bullshit that's going on in our legislature right now. Even after letters, committee's, and petitions, it seems MP's are either too dumb to realize the shaft regular people are going to get, or they're too busy covering up their expenses from the AG. :/

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Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432072 is a reply to message #431987] Sun, 04 July 2010 22:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, we do have one Pirate Party of Canada.

Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432080 is a reply to message #432072] Mon, 05 July 2010 01:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lone0001 wrote on Mon, 05 July 2010 00:57

Well, we do have one Pirate Party of Canada.


They're obviously a little more 'polite' than their Swedish compatriots because this is the first time I've heard of them. Razz

Hopefully they'll make some more noise come the next election. C-32 sucks for anyone with digital media in their hands.


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Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432128 is a reply to message #432080] Mon, 05 July 2010 22:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i knew this was TPB before i even clicked on it... leave it alone we cant do shit about torrents anyway

Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432137 is a reply to message #431987] Tue, 06 July 2010 00:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Good for them! I hope tpb and its supporters find victory.

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Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432147 is a reply to message #431987] Tue, 06 July 2010 02:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Existing industries need to adapt and change to new markets (digital distribution / the internet / whatever) rather than pressurise gov't into legislating against any change they don't like.

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Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432374 is a reply to message #432147] Thu, 08 July 2010 17:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CarrierII wrote on Tue, 06 July 2010 19:59

Existing industries need to adapt and change to new markets (digital distribution / the internet / whatever) rather than pressurise gov't into legislating against any change they don't like.

Agreed, and some already do, which is pretty cool. Some even put up their own free videos and stuff to listen to their music, which is honestly pretty awesome.

Music artists shouldn't have much a problem, to be honest.

Movies and games, though, are a bit more complicated...


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Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432390 is a reply to message #431987] Thu, 08 July 2010 22:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Games:
Hardly - charge for access to the multiplayer match-making servers.

Single player... harder.

Movies:
Cinema takings not enough, huh? (If they weren't, then all movie studios would be bust, because according to the MPAA, piracy is already killing them, which is why there have been easily more than 20 new movies in the last 4 weeks...)


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Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432412 is a reply to message #431987] Fri, 09 July 2010 02:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You cant stop piracy. Its as simple as that. What is left to be done?

In the case of music:
Either you'll have to be prolific and very fan-engaging (see: amanda palmer) or you'll have to make something unique and important enough so that people will always be willing to pay/donate for you records (see: obscure electronic scenes etc.). In either case, you wont be particularly wealthy. Then again, most jobs in the world wont make you particularly wealthy, or it wouldnt be 'particularly', right?

In the case of film: deal with it. There will always be people who will want to watch it IMAX or whatever. Will those people be enough to pay for films? I doubt it. To make this medium as fan-engaging as music is obviously impossible since there are lots and lots of people part of the film-making process, most of which the audience will never know about (Who cares about technical nods or best make-up at the oscars etc.? Exactly). Instead, I think the industry will have to deal with making a profit off DVD and cinema-sales for as long as possible, and then give way to smaller, more indie productions. Will Blockbusters come out every week in 20 years? possibly not. Will it be the end of the world? No.


The most important thing is: music and tv and film are all fine art forms, but it might well happen that consumers will not be willing to pay for them anymore in a few decades. Theres nothing to do about this. These types of artistic expression may then become a niche-product for the select few. And thats fine too. We'll just invent new art forms. These may very well be more fragile and short-lived than films or music. One-time-live-perfomances etc. I dont know. The point is: artistic expression will always survive as long as people have stories to tell, emotions to convey, social arguments to make.

Oh, an the pirate party is way cool.
Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432419 is a reply to message #431987] Fri, 09 July 2010 07:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In addition, with regards to music, where applicable, an artist should always be able to make money playing live gigs.

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Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432421 is a reply to message #431987] Fri, 09 July 2010 07:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh, right. Forgot that one, thanks Carrier :>
Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432799 is a reply to message #432421] Thu, 15 July 2010 12:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Torrents are awesome,

You can't play a game online without a valid serial code - Which is the best part of the game, so I don't see the problem with downloading movies/music/games for my private use.

If and when I download a game/music/movie and like it, I'll buy it (excluded to games only for the multiplayer) Very Happy


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Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432804 is a reply to message #432799] Thu, 15 July 2010 12:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Music torrents - cant be stopped i even admit to using these

Game torrents - are pointless due to most torrent games cant be played online. therefore this is only good for single player only games such as older GTA games and Deadrising... though its fun to play some games personaly before buy as Azazel said

Movie torrents - I'd rather just go get the movie... much easier


Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432812 is a reply to message #432804] Thu, 15 July 2010 13:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Z3RATUL99 wrote on Thu, 15 July 2010 20:26

Music torrents - cant be stopped i even admit to using these

Game torrents - are pointless due to most torrent games cant be played online. therefore this is only good for single player only games such as older GTA games and Deadrising... though its fun to play some games personaly before buy as Azazel said

Movie torrents - I'd rather just go get the movie... much easier

Music - i kinda agree even tho i download em from youtube Thumbs Up
Games- well yah obviously some cant be online cos if its torrented and a game requires an .exe that runs online well thats gonna be hard

Movie- exactly, also if you tourrent a movie, then your gonna get a crap quality

Soz for bad spelling, hand aches


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Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432815 is a reply to message #432812] Thu, 15 July 2010 13:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Phase-transport wrote on Thu, 15 July 2010 15:03


Music - i kinda agree even tho i download em from youtube Thumbs Up
protip:
1. Go to google.com
2. type in inurl:blogspot bandname bandalbum
3. click bunch of links.
4. download.
much safer than torrents.


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Movie- exactly, also if you tourrent a movie, then your gonna get a crap quality
bullshit, quite the contrary. Due to the nature of torrents you'll have an easier time downloading bluray rips etc.



is his gonna get us banned?
Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432816 is a reply to message #432815] Thu, 15 July 2010 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ziggy Sobotka wrote on Thu, 15 July 2010 14:56

is his gonna get us banned?

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Warez: This is a warez-free forum, and supports legitimate ownership of all games, software, music, movies, etc. Do not come here looking for or spreading CD/DVD images, serials, or any other form of warez. We are very strict on this rule

As long as we dont tell them a way, release, or give a link we are fine

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Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432826 is a reply to message #432815] Thu, 15 July 2010 17:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ziggy Sobotka wrote on Thu, 15 July 2010 15:56

Phase-transport wrote on Thu, 15 July 2010 15:03


Music - i kinda agree even tho i download em from youtube Thumbs Up
protip:
1. Go to google.com
2. type in inurl:blogspot bandname bandalbum
3. click bunch of links.
4. download.
much safer than torrents.


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Movie- exactly, also if you tourrent a movie, then your gonna get a crap quality
bullshit, quite the contrary. Due to the nature of torrents you'll have an easier time downloading bluray rips etc.



is his gonna get us banned?


As long as no one posts any actual torrent sites or torrent links, we should be fine.

BluRay rips ftw Smile


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Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432859 is a reply to message #431987] Fri, 16 July 2010 11:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would remove the thing about google and blogspot, but I doubt it will make any real difference...


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Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432862 is a reply to message #432859] Fri, 16 July 2010 11:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CarrierII wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 13:09

I would remove the thing about google and blogspot, but I doubt it will make any real difference...



You could always ban 0x90 3days from now to make up for it Big Grin


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Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432880 is a reply to message #432859] Fri, 16 July 2010 16:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CarrierII wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 13:09

I would remove the thing about google and blogspot, but I doubt it will make any real difference...

you cant stop the signal anyway, so what the heck. MIght as well educate people on how to download properly.
Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432895 is a reply to message #432859] Fri, 16 July 2010 23:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CarrierII wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 12:09

I would remove the thing about google and blogspot, but I doubt it will make any real difference...


How do they know he was talking about an illegal download what if he actually pays for it... Sarcasm


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Ziggy Sobotka wrote on Sat, 17 July 2010 00:35

CarrierII wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 13:09

I would remove the thing about google and blogspot, but I doubt it will make any real difference...

you cant stop the signal anyway, so what the heck. MIght as well educate people on how to download properly.


Very amateur way to download files, still at risk at getting dud files or viruses (Doubt you'd be worried though.)


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