| What's being done to stop cheats [message #42136] |
Sat, 23 August 2003 18:07  |
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Crimson
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Ever heard of PunkBuster? Well, now that some pathetic children have decided to publicize cheats, we're all going to have to install an application on our servers to prove we aren't cheating assholes.
It's on the fast track to completion. Every server that wants to be anti-cheat will have to have BR.NET or BRenBot installed which will include the RenGuard application.
I'd give you more details about how it works, but that would just help the cheaters find a way around it, so you'll have to forgive me for not giving you more details.
Hang in there, guys... with little patience, and persistence in banning the cheaters, these last couple weeks will fade away into memory, just like the beacon/leave exploit.
I'm the bawss.
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| What's being done to stop cheats [message #42140] |
Sat, 23 August 2003 18:20  |
Fraga
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And what if a cheater finds a way round this? Maybe if 1 cheat is undeditectable? What will that cause for? another anti - cheat program? you say that your not able to release info about this program so that Cheaters will find out how to get round it. What if cheaters Download this programm and FIND how to get through this "Anti Cheat Program" , Personnly I think its a croc of Shite
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| What's being done to stop cheats [message #42141] |
Sat, 23 August 2003 18:20 |
FearHQ
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Crimson: these cheats were developped in a half-assed manner that I would never even deem as a possibility (just like the beacon bug). The guy that came up with these isn't too bright either. These mod-based hacks are very easy to counter with client-side mini-program, but there are other possible weaknessess in the game that should be patched at the server level. These are considerably harder to do, especially considering that the source is unavaliable and it would take 2 months to reverse the FDS exe... I've a couple of ideas to make the anti-hack program harder to hack. After the 25th, I'll be available to lend a hand, as this is hindering gameplay, as opposed to 'wol hack' :/
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| What's being done to stop cheats [message #42149] |
Sat, 23 August 2003 19:10 |
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warranto
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Location: Alberta, Canada
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And what if a cheater finds a way round this? Maybe if 1 cheat is undeditectable? What will that cause for? another anti - cheat program? you say that your not able to release info about this program so that Cheaters will find out how to get round it. What if cheaters Download this programm and FIND how to get through this "Anti Cheat Program" , Personnly I think its a croc of Shite
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So I suppose you support cheating then? I mean, something is better than nothing, and like virus programs, there will probably be a way around them after a while, but just like the same program, there can be updates when they are found and delt with. No security system is perfect, if there was, there would be no need to update the systems. However, as time progresses, even the most secure system need updating.
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| What's being done to stop cheats [message #42185] |
Sat, 23 August 2003 22:31 |
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Crimson
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It will be part of BR.net, yes. As SOON as there's info, I will post it. I promise. We've got several people working on it right this moment.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: What's being done to stop cheats [message #42197] |
Sun, 24 August 2003 02:15 |
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Whitedragon
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It's on the fast track to completion. Every server that wants to be anti-cheat will have to have BR.NET or BRenBot installed which will include the RenGuard application.
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um wtf? why the hell would it be part of BR. i can think of plenty servers that use their own admin system and you're just gonna leave them out of this?
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| What's being done to stop cheats [message #42199] |
Sun, 24 August 2003 02:28 |
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mac
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If you do not run BR.net or brenbot you will be able to ask for a specification how to authenticate your server and your users with RenGuard.
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danpaul88: buggy bugs brenbot because buggy befriends brainlessness
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| What's being done to stop cheats [message #42218] |
Sun, 24 August 2003 04:35 |
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Kingdud
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I play America's Army, the latest 1.9 patch put PB into the game on all official servers, since I have played, I have only seen 1-5 lvl 40+ honor ppl where as it used to be almost everyone was 40+. I have seen 2 ppl kicked in about 2 hours of playing for using Aimbots. PB does work.
I will not say how exactly it works to help maintain Crimmy's edge over the lamers but I will say that it is highly adapatble and it can/will find 99% of the cheats, the 1% that is left, they can be delt with VERY easily 
Peace out,
-Kingdud
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| What's being done to stop cheats [message #42223] |
Sun, 24 August 2003 05:33 |
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Crimson
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If you do not run BR.net or brenbot you will be able to ask for a specification how to authenticate your server and your users with RenGuard.
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Thanks for that clarification. I only said people would need BR because it's the only written app available to the public and not proprietary to the owner's servers.
I'm the bawss.
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| What's being done to stop cheats [message #42228] |
Sun, 24 August 2003 05:50 |
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spreegem
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Umm this BR.net thing, will it only work in dedicated servr games, or not, because if not were can I get it, and how do I use it? Also, the punk buster thing, same as above, will it only work on dedicated dervers, or not?
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| What's being done to stop cheats [message #42269] |
Sun, 24 August 2003 09:10 |
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Only dedicated servers are supported at this point. Support comes with one of the major server moderation programs like Blaze Regulator.
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| What's being done to stop cheats [message #42272] |
Sun, 24 August 2003 09:24 |
Breetomas
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| Crimson |
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If you do not run BR.net or brenbot you will be able to ask for a specification how to authenticate your server and your users with RenGuard.
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Thanks for that clarification. I only said people would need BR because it's the only written app available to the public and not proprietary to the owner's servers.
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