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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415921 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 12:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Seems to me it's like banning someone from your server if he cheated on another server.

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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415923 is a reply to message #415919] Mon, 28 December 2009 12:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 13:16

Saying simpee and clear aren't fair players is a joke. Not saying you're not Spoony, because you clearly are, but so are they. And so am I. so don't go off saying I don't know anything about fair play, or recognizing fair players.

after this post of yours i'm saying you don't know anything about decent, honest, respectful behaviour.

Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 13:16

so, you banned him for your league for not being mean to you, glad that's cleared up.

you only need to read the ban thread for a very detailed and careful explanation of what they've done wrong.

Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 13:16

Not saying he wasn't insulting you, but you guys always go back and forth so i feel like you're both at fault for that.

then i feel you're a fucking IDIOT. yes, i do.

simpee and clearshot's behaviour to me has been ABSOLUTELY DESPICABLE. i did nothing wrong to them before, and i've done nothing wrong to them since. sticking up for myself, pointing out they were lying, is not doing anything wrong. for you to equate me with them is an absolute disgrace and you owe me an apology. you may as well say "loki may be a cheater, but you keep calling him a cheater so you're at fault too", it would be equally absurd and embarrassing to read.

Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 13:16

It just so happens you have the power to ban him. Alright; i personally don't agree with, and most people will not agree with it, but it's your league.

indeed. it'd be nice if anyone other than me gave enough of a shit to host a league for scum like simpee and clearshot. but they don't. i'm the only person who does them that favour, and look how they repay me.

Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 13:16

anyway, I didn't 'defend' simpee and clear in the forum, I kind of attacked you, because all you did was bring up the same thing over and over and over again, well after they had finished posting. Most people don't want the point fix, and you continued to bring it up, and it got annoying. So sorry if I hurt your feelings there. It got old. Happy?

right.

so i deserved the UNBELIEVABLY DESPICABLE behaviour from clearshot and simpee, because... what was i talking about? oh yeah, running another ladder on top of the one at clanwars, posting new ideas.

listen to what you are saying. this is a low point for you, mike. you're usually a pretty level-headed guy, but some of the stuff you're saying now is beyond ridiculous and downright disgraceful. at least my earlier theory was correct; you don't really care about fair, honest players getting a rough deal anywhere near as much as you pretend you do.


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415926 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spoony I could honestly go on and argue with you for an hour or two longer, but I don't have the time or patience. So you can go ahead and chalk this up as a victory for you on another renegade-argument, but really, you just killed the league because you can't take a few insulting comments from simpee and clear. If you know they're lying and such just ignore them knowing you're right.

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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415929 is a reply to message #415926] Mon, 28 December 2009 12:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 13:38

Spoony I could honestly go on and argue with you for an hour or two longer, but I don't have the time or patience.

or the wit.

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So you can go ahead and chalk this up as a victory for you on another renegade-argument

another one bites the dust. we saw your true colours, unless that last post of yours was just a moment of madness. and i really hope it was, mike, because you ought to be ashamed of what you just said.

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but really, you just killed the league because you can't take a few insulting comments from simpee and clear.

this might be another good time to point back to the original ban thread, which made a very long and careful case against them.


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415930 is a reply to message #415926] Mon, 28 December 2009 12:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 20:38

Spoony I could honestly go on and argue with you for an hour or two longer, but I don't have the time or patience. So you can go ahead and chalk this up as a victory for you on another renegade-argument, but really, you just killed the league because you can't take a few insulting comments from simpee and clear. If you know they're lying and such just ignore them knowing you're right.

Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 20:38

you just killed the league because you can't take a few insulting comments from simpee and clear. If you know they're lying and such just ignore them knowing you're right.

Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 20:38

you can't take a few insulting comments from simpee and clear.

Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 20:38

you can't take a few insulting comments

Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 20:38

a few insulting comments

Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 20:38

a few

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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415934 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 12:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415939 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 13:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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He's someone commenting on clanwars, even though he's:
a. never played there
b. never posted there
c. never played against either of the 2 people being discussed.

His only knowledge of the situation is from the points fix topics on here.
Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415941 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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even someone as dim and witless as me can tell his imput has zero to negative importance here!

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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415942 is a reply to message #415939] Mon, 28 December 2009 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i was just about to say that it's far preferable discussing clanwars matters here rather than at clanwars... more people here actually stick up for the real honest players, instead of just pretending they do like a lot of people at clanwars are doing right now.

next time some piece of shit like simpee or clear does what they did on jelly forum, i don't expect anybody at clanwars to have my back no matter what i've done for them. it's nice to see some more encouraging posts from people here.


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415944 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 13:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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see, i understand everything now. spoony is spiritually linked to the pointfix, so everytime we said that pointfix sucks, spoony saw it as us saying that he sucks. its the only explanation of why hes so bitter and is bringing up shit that happened 6 years ago in his ban reasons.
Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415945 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 13:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Point i was making, if the people who commented looked at what matters, ie actually playing the game, instead of sitting on the forums 24/7, and played the 2 guys some time over the last 2 months, they wouldn't have a single thing to moan about.

Probably 400 clan games have passed without incident the past 2 months with these players involved, but nobody is mentioning that, you're focusing everything on posts on a forum as your justification to ban them.

The thing that should matter, playing the game fair and by the rules is neither here not there to you, and that isn't being put across anywhere in your arguments. They've done that perfectly in the last 2 league months.

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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415948 is a reply to message #415944] Mon, 28 December 2009 13:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ELiT3FLyR wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 14:08

see, i understand everything now. spoony is spiritually linked to the pointfix, so everytime we said that pointfix sucks, spoony saw it as us saying that he sucks. its the only explanation of why hes so bitter and is bringing up shit that happened 6 years ago in his ban reasons.

no, i bring up your old offences as well as the new ones to point out that you simply can't stop yourself fucking up.

although sometimes it's you who brings up your own offences in a sad attempt to flame me. for example: you keep trying to flame me because when you let a convicted cheater sneak back into your clan 3/4 years ago, i caught you and suspended you. you even make up new lies to absolve yourself on that one. this is the kind of stupidity that would be remarkable for most people but in your case is just another day.

good luck on tempozia's server against loki, it's where you belong.


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415949 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 13:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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and spoony blaming us for jelly forums is like saying america had no reason to bomb the shit out of japan in ww2. u start all the underhand bullshit and expect us not to finish it?
Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415950 is a reply to message #415945] Mon, 28 December 2009 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jellybe4n wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 20:09

Point i was making, if the people who commented looked at what matters, ie actually playing the game, instead of sitting on the forums 24/7, and played the 2 guys some time over the last 2 months, they wouldn't have a single thing to moan about.

The thing that should matter, playing the game fair and by the rules is neither here not there to you, and that isn't being put across anywhere in your arguments. They've done that perfectly in the last 2 league months.

and we're back to "but they haven't done anything wrong to me!"

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Probably 400 clan games have passed without incident the past 2 months with these players involved, but nobody is mentioning that, you're focusing everything on posts on a forum as your justification to ban them.

When simpee and clear did what they did on your forum, where were you to offer this defence on my behalf?

I'm probably not going to get tired of asking people this every time they defend simpee and clearshot in the belief that they're "fair players". It's quite a stumper, isn't it?


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415952 is a reply to message #415949] Mon, 28 December 2009 13:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ELiT3FLyR wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 14:13

and spoony blaming us for jelly forums is like saying america had no reason to bomb the shit out of japan in ww2. u start all the underhand bullshit and expect us not to finish it?

I DID NOTHING WRONG TO YOU. I HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING WRONG TO YOU. I HAVE DONE YOU NOTHING BUT FAVOURS. I HOSTED YOU A CLAN LADDER FOR YEARS, IN SPITE OF THE PATHETIC WAY YOU ACT TOWARDS ME.

seriously, if you can't understand that then you really, REALLY have mental problems.


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415954 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415955 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 13:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415956 is a reply to message #415950] Mon, 28 December 2009 13:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spoony wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 15:18

Jellybe4n wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 20:09

Point i was making, if the people who commented looked at what matters, ie actually playing the game, instead of sitting on the forums 24/7, and played the 2 guys some time over the last 2 months, they wouldn't have a single thing to moan about.

The thing that should matter, playing the game fair and by the rules is neither here not there to you, and that isn't being put across anywhere in your arguments. They've done that perfectly in the last 2 league months.

and we're back to "but they haven't done anything wrong to me!"

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Probably 400 clan games have passed without incident the past 2 months with these players involved, but nobody is mentioning that, you're focusing everything on posts on a forum as your justification to ban them.

When simpee and clear did what they did on your forum, where were you to offer this defence on my behalf?

I'm probably not going to get tired of asking people this every time they defend simpee and clearshot in the belief that they're "fair players". It's quite a stumper, isn't it?



I don't agree with it, plain and simple. You've let shit bother you that I wouldn't.

Maybe I have a thicker skin than you, but I don't ban people for arguing with me on a forum.

So lets make it clear, I hear your reasons, I don't agree with them.

I think players should be judged on what they do in-game, and the past 2 months they have been 100% fair and played by the rules. Nobody is hearing this side of the arguement, all we're getting is your side.

So lets not have any misunderstandings as to my argument anymore please.

My mindset is you need to shrug shit off and not let people bother you. Ignore them if they get to you that much. There's so many people I can't stand, I just don't bother with them, so simple. I don't let shit bother me, I've had allsorts thrown at me on these forums. Think I ban people from our servers for it?

Answer is pretty short - No

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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415957 is a reply to message #415956] Mon, 28 December 2009 13:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jellybe4n wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 22:25

I don't agree with it, plain and simple. You've let shit bother you that I wouldn't.

Maybe I have a thicker skin than you, but I don't ban people for arguing with me on a forum.

nor do i. is nunega banned? karmai? geld? bosnian?

my ban thread made a very long case against simpee, and it's depressing how many people have tried to reduct it into "all they did was argue with you". that really does belie a vast ignorance.

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I think players should be judged on what they do in-game, and the past 2 months they have been 100% fair and played by the rules.

and this is nothing more than "they haven't done anything to me spoony"

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My mindset is you need to shrug shit off and not let people bother you. Ignore them if they get to you that much. There's so many people I can't stand, I just don't bother with them, so simple. I don't let shit bother me, I've had allsorts thrown at me on these forums. Think I ban people from our servers for it?

Answer is pretty short - No

i think you might in my position.


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415959 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 13:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why the hell is this being discussed here. This is Spoony's business, and after that it's cw.cc business.
Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415960 is a reply to message #415957] Mon, 28 December 2009 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spoony wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 15:30

Jellybe4n wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 22:25

I don't agree with it, plain and simple. You've let shit bother you that I wouldn't.

Maybe I have a thicker skin than you, but I don't ban people for arguing with me on a forum.

nor do i. is nunega banned? karmai? geld? bosnian?

my ban thread made a very long case against simpee, and it's depressing how many people have tried to reduct it into "all they did was argue with you". that really does belie a vast ignorance.

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I think players should be judged on what they do in-game, and the past 2 months they have been 100% fair and played by the rules.

and this is nothing more than "they haven't done anything to me spoony"

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My mindset is you need to shrug shit off and not let people bother you. Ignore them if they get to you that much. There's so many people I can't stand, I just don't bother with them, so simple. I don't let shit bother me, I've had allsorts thrown at me on these forums. Think I ban people from our servers for it?

Answer is pretty short - No

i think you might in my position.



The whole they haven't done anything to me thing is quite wrong.

Like I said, I wouldn't have banned someone from my servers for argument I had with someone on here. No matter who was right or wrong. I wouldn't ban someone who played fair and played a hell of a lot of games in the busiest month cw's has had in god knows how long. I didn't see any warnings to simpee and clear when you thanked everyone on the cw's forum for a very successful November, the most active in a long time, a month were they were very active, and played the game extremely fair.

Like I say, I give more merit to what people do in-game than what they write on a forum that's nothing to do with were they are playing. That's were we differ immensely

So we won't agree, we have a different mindset.

To avoid going round in circles, I'll leave it here as my point is across, whether you agree with it or accept I can't change.

I've seen your reasons, I don't agree with them, I said why. You're content with your actions, I can't change that.



Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415963 is a reply to message #415960] Mon, 28 December 2009 14:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jellybe4n wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 14:57

The whole they haven't done anything to me thing is quite wrong.

Like I said, I wouldn't have banned someone from my servers for argument I had with someone on here. No matter who was right or wrong.

glad to hear it, what's that got to do with simpee?

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I wouldn't ban someone who played fair and played a hell of a lot of games in the busiest month cw's has had in god knows how long.

no matter what they did, eh? this is the same non-logic that led everyone to say we shouldn't have banned soul. what he actually did was completely irrelevant to these people... all they said was: he plays a lot.

secondly, we come back to why nobody stuck up for me when i was under attack on the jelly forum. i didn't see anybody saying "but spoony plays a lot" then. of course, i wouldn't consider that to be much of a defence, i'd prefer if someone had the balls to say "but, simpee and clearshot, everything you're saying against spoony is an obvious lie... why are you making dozens and dozens of posts telling these lies to attack spoony when he's never done anything wrong to you?"

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I didn't see any warnings to simpee and clear when you thanked everyone on the cw's forum for a very successful November

indeed not. all of simpee's warnings were here.


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Spoony wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 16:07

Jellybe4n wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 14:57

The whole they haven't done anything to me thing is quite wrong.

Like I said, I wouldn't have banned someone from my servers for argument I had with someone on here. No matter who was right or wrong.

glad to hear it, what's that got to do with simpee and clearshot?

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I wouldn't ban someone who played fair and played a hell of a lot of games in the busiest month cw's has had in god knows how long.

no matter what they did, eh? this is the same non-logic that led everyone to say we shouldn't have banned soul. what he actually did was completely irrelevant to these people... all they said was: he plays a lot.

secondly, we come back to why nobody stuck up for me when i was under attack on the jelly forum. i didn't see anybody saying "but spoony plays a lot" then. of course, i wouldn't consider that to be much of a defence, i'd prefer if someone had the balls to say "but, simpee and clearshot, everything you're saying against spoony is an obvious lie... why are making dozens and dozens of posts telling these lies to try to make spoony look bad when he's never done anything wrong to you?"

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I didn't see any warnings to simpee and clear when you thanked everyone on the cw's forum for a very successful November

indeed not. all of simpee's warnings were here.


Pointless for me to go on now. We're going in circles, and as usual this is where I step out.

Take that as me not being able to answer you, or whatever you wish. I just know when I've reached a point where it's going nowhere.

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it certainly is going nowhere. you keep saying things like "simpee's only banned for arguing with you", which only goes to show you either haven't read the ban announcement or haven't understood it.

let me illustrate it

*jelly bans someone from jelly-server for racism*
spoony: he didn't base to base
jelly: i didn't say he did, he said some racist stuff
spoony: he didn't base to base and he's played 400 games this month
jelly: i don't care how many games he's played, he shouldn't be racist
spoony: but he didn't base to base and he's played a lot of games this month
jelly: hello? is this plugged in...?


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