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| Jerad Gray wrote on Fri, 09 October 2009 10:33 |
Some people also believe that game-play > graphics, but thats an opinion really, just think about it, wouldn't their be a lot more people still playing ren if graphics really didn't matter?
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There are more people that play still play Pokemon: Red Version than play Crysis. What does that tell you?
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| Re: Skins question [message #406547 is a reply to message #392443] |
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It's less of ren's graphics and moreso its buggy physics (no, not physics that apply to the vehicle the Nod Buggy), pretty bad netcode, difficult to get used to (read: isn't retardedly easy) gameplay, and somewhat lackluster features (which, there'd have been very many if Westwood had finished the game) that push people away from Renegade.
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| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!   
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| Re: Skins question [message #406550 is a reply to message #406533] |
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| Dover wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 03:43 |
| Jerad Gray wrote on Fri, 09 October 2009 10:33 |
Some people also believe that game-play > graphics, but thats an opinion really, just think about it, wouldn't their be a lot more people still playing ren if graphics really didn't matter?
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There are more people that play still play Pokemon: Red Version than play Crysis. What does that tell you?
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Pokemon Red version was awesome :>
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| Re: Skins question [message #406553 is a reply to message #406550] |
Sun, 11 October 2009 04:42 |
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| Ghostshaw wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 03:13 |
Pokemon Red version is awesome :>
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Fix'd.
Although I'm a G/S/C generation fan, myself.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: Skins question [message #406572 is a reply to message #406553] |
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| Dover wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 06:42 |
| Ghostshaw wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 03:13 |
Pokemon Red version is awesome :>
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Fix'd.
Although I'm a G/S/C generation fan, myself.
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Classic pokemon's the only way to go.
The rest sucks balls.
Toggle Spoiler| Scrin wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 13:22 |
| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!
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| Re: Skins question [message #406598 is a reply to message #406572] |
Sun, 11 October 2009 14:03 |
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| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 09:39 |
| Dover wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 06:42 |
| Ghostshaw wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 03:13 |
Pokemon Red version is awesome :>
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Fix'd.
Although I'm a G/S/C generation fan, myself.
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Classic pokemon's the only way to go.
The rest sucks balls.
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The problem with the original 151 is that they are very poorly balanced,. There is no grass type or ghost type that does not also carry the burden of being part poison type, which makes them all garbage against psychic types. There are also no damaging moves that are bug type or ghost type, further strengthening psychic's hand. The ideal team in R/B/Y is five Alakazams and a Mewtwo. This is somewhat rectified in G/S/C with the introduction of the dark type, and the separation of the specattk and specdef stats. It isn't until R/S/E that balance is truely perfected, but by then the pokemanz get way too weird and abstract. G/S/C is the ideal generation.</nerdrant>
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| Re: Skins question [message #407986 is a reply to message #406531] |
Thu, 22 October 2009 09:24 |
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| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sat, 10 October 2009 19:39 |
| Jerad Gray wrote on Fri, 09 October 2009 19:33 |
| Spoony wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 10:29 |
please, please make it so that a server can disallow custom sounds... loud beacons and stank engines are so much more of an advantage than bright c4.
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I hope your kidding, most people play music while they play ren. I'd pick up on the bright yellow C4 a lot quicker than some little beep sound. Or a bright yellow beacon.
Remember, you guys are implementing wide-screen, which makes the game look better for some, but is viewed as a cheat from other's view points, at the same time you threaten to remove skins, which make the game look better for some, but others consider it a cheat.
Toggle SpoilerPeople like skins, and people like good graphics, I do believe ren now has some competition that is developing game-play that's a lot like ren, only thing it really doesn't have is the ability to skin, once that is gone, why not play the version that looks better?
Some people also believe that game-play > graphics, but thats an opinion really, just think about it, wouldn't their be a lot more people still playing ren if graphics really didn't matter?
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Widescreen doesnt change much. You just get the pixels ordered differently. You'll lose some view down and at the top, and get some left and right.
Also, if you would read, then you would've noticed that we are giving serverowners the option to allow, disallow or whitelist skins.
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What about the ability to allow/disallow widescreen?
See I don't worry much about people who have special textures in game, thats always been a issue and it never really bother me much, but the ability to see more left and right when you are camping in a corner could be very useful.
| Dover wrote on Sat, 10 October 2009 19:43 |
| Jerad Gray wrote on Fri, 09 October 2009 10:33 |
Some people also believe that game-play > graphics, but thats an opinion really, just think about it, wouldn't their be a lot more people still playing ren if graphics really didn't matter?
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There are more people that play still play Pokemon: Red Version than play Crysis. What does that tell you?
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That there are too many Pokemon fans around lol. Ren is currently very easy to change/skin, people like that, would people still play Pokemon red if I took out a chunk of the game after its release? I'd also like to point out your comparing a FPS to a... ?RPG? ?Strategy game? I don't know, its not an FPS though. Do you think anyone would play Crysis if it had Pokemon red graphics?
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| Re: Skins question [message #408057 is a reply to message #407986] |
Fri, 23 October 2009 00:40 |
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| Jerad Gray wrote on Thu, 22 October 2009 09:24 |
Ren is currently very easy to change/skin, people like that, would people still play Pokemon red if I took out a chunk of the game after its release?
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Funny you should mention that--Every generation of pokemon games are heavily modifiable. This is especially true of the GBA-era games, and there are more mods for that era of games than there are pokemon games in the entire series. They just aren't played as often because;
1) they're third-party and
2) Most of them kind of suck hard.
Of course, most of them have shinier (Or at least, newer) graphics, further reinforcing the point that the superiod game play of the core games beats out the "improved" graphics of the mods.
| Jerad Gray wrote on Thu, 22 October 2009 09:24 |
I'd also like to point out your comparing a FPS to a... ?RPG? ?Strategy game? I don't know, its not an FPS though.
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You're missing the point. I'm simply reinforcing the fact that gameplay > graphics
| Jerad Gray wrote on Thu, 22 October 2009 09:24 |
Do you think anyone would play Crysis if it had Pokemon red graphics?
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You're asking the wrong question. The question you're looking for is "Would people actually play Crysis if it had Pokemon Red's level of game play?", and the answer is yes.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: Skins question [message #408064 is a reply to message #392443] |
Fri, 23 October 2009 04:10 |
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How would learscope be affected by these options serverside?
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| Re: Skins question [message #408095 is a reply to message #408057] |
Fri, 23 October 2009 08:15 |
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| Dover wrote on Fri, 23 October 2009 01:40 |
| Jerad Gray wrote on Thu, 22 October 2009 09:24 |
I'd also like to point out your comparing a FPS to a... ?RPG? ?Strategy game? I don't know, its not an FPS though.
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You're missing the point. I'm simply reinforcing the fact that gameplay > graphics.
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No, that depends on the person, especially if there is another game that mimics the the first game's game-play and has better graphics. And as many people have pointed out, who plays Crysis for its game-play?
| Dover wrote on Fri, 23 October 2009 01:40 |
| Jerad Gray wrote on Thu, 22 October 2009 09:24 |
Do you think anyone would play Crysis if it had Pokemon red graphics?
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You're asking the wrong question. The question you're looking for is "Would people actually play Crysis if it had Pokemon Red's level of game play?", and the answer is yes.
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Let me promise you that I'm asking the correct question, once more: As many people have pointed out, who plays Crysis for its game-play?
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| Re: Skins question [message #408108 is a reply to message #392443] |
Fri, 23 October 2009 11:08 |
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The one trying to bypass skin hash will be a very, very sad person...
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: Skins question [message #408126 is a reply to message #408107] |
Fri, 23 October 2009 14:03 |
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| StealthEye wrote on Fri, 23 October 2009 19:53 |
That depends on what hash you use. It's possible for CRC, but you won't be able to do that for hashes like MD5 or SHA1.
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I had this program which allowed me to change the MD5 hash too. For SHA1 I don't know.
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