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| Re: Seriously? [message #403530 is a reply to message #403280] |
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That's bullshit. I've removed countless Reborn leaks, leaks of other mods, people's private information (such as phone numbers, real names), etc. over the years. It's only now that NS has become a victim that all of sudden I'm "biased".
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: Seriously? [message #403572 is a reply to message #403538] |
Tue, 22 September 2009 08:57 |
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| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 22 September 2009 00:29 |
They didn't know that beforehand (because it did not exist) so you should've warned then and give them another chance.
I'm sure that if these people really mean harm, they'll be able to do it without Renforums don't you think?
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Well, since I can't READ private messages, it kinda shoots that little theory out the window, doesn't it? And no, they can't do it without RenForums unless they happen to have another place in common to contact each other privately.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: Seriously? [message #403574 is a reply to message #403572] |
Tue, 22 September 2009 09:06 |
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| Crimson wrote on Tue, 22 September 2009 10:57 |
| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 22 September 2009 00:29 |
They didn't know that beforehand (because it did not exist) so you should've warned then and give them another chance.
I'm sure that if these people really mean harm, they'll be able to do it without Renforums don't you think?
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Well, since I can't READ private messages, it kinda shoots that little theory out the window, doesn't it?
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Wait, so you randomly revoked ppls PM priv's w/o having any evidence to suggest that any1 had been leaking information?
| Crimson wrote on Tue, 22 September 2009 10:57 |
[And no, they can't do it without RenForums unless they happen to have another place in common to contact each other privately.
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lol
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| Re: Seriously? [message #403580 is a reply to message #403280] |
Tue, 22 September 2009 10:11 |
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| CarrierII wrote on Tue, 22 September 2009 11:41 |
The rules are to remove the PM privileges of anyone who posts the information AFTER they have leaked information.
(Once again, see the note about theory)
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And as we've seen, that rule hasn't been followed. This is pretty much just another example of how well the heads of this place, and n00bstories are at adhering to their own rules.
Troubling.
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| Re: Seriously? [message #403584 is a reply to message #403572] |
Tue, 22 September 2009 10:56 |
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| Crimson wrote on Tue, 22 September 2009 17:57 |
| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 22 September 2009 00:29 |
They didn't know that beforehand (because it did not exist) so you should've warned then and give them another chance.
I'm sure that if these people really mean harm, they'll be able to do it without Renforums don't you think?
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Well, since I can't READ private messages, it kinda shoots that little theory out the window, doesn't it? And no, they can't do it without RenForums unless they happen to have another place in common to contact each other privately.
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Come on, you know tht programs like MSN exist right? You also know that nowadays creating a temporary website is even easier than logging in to this forum right?
Also, the rule wasn't there before they leaked private information (presuming that they did) so it is kinda unfair to first take their PM rights (outside of direct NS bussiness of course) and then implement a new rule. If you would've warned them, most of them would immediately stop posting it here. Surely they would probably find other places, but that is something you can't stop any way.
Unless you planned on taking down communities which they could use to communicate?
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| Re: Seriously? [message #403586 is a reply to message #403280] |
Tue, 22 September 2009 11:53 |
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Read the rule again:
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Private Messaging: Due to the inability to screen private messages, your ability to use them may be temporarily disabled if you are suspected to be involved or closely related to the violation of any of forum rules.
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That's exactly what I'm talking about. Without the ability to read them, (and the fact that I find that to be a breach of privacy that I do not wish to commit), the removal of private message PRIVILEGES may have to occur while a leak is still active.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: Seriously? [message #403591 is a reply to message #403586] |
Tue, 22 September 2009 12:44 |
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| Crimson wrote on Tue, 22 September 2009 20:53 |
Read the rule again:
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Private Messaging: Due to the inability to screen private messages, your ability to use them may be temporarily disabled if you are suspected to be involved or closely related to the violation of any of forum rules.
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That's exactly what I'm talking about. Without the ability to read them, (and the fact that I find that to be a breach of privacy that I do not wish to commit), the removal of private message PRIVILEGES may have to occur while a leak is still active.
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So when exactly is a leak inactive according to you? Why do you still think people are leaking said info? If it's leaked once people can still tell stuff to others, if you haven't noticed most people have given up on leaking the stuff.. so when do you even think about putting it back in place? If you haven't noticed, there are innocent people complaining in this thread.
| nikki6ixx wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 19:47 |
Every so often, I get this positive feeling that humanity can somehow, possibly attain pure awesomeness, and enlightenment, and that there is light at the end of the road for us all. However, I only need to go to the latest HUD thread at RenForums to remind me of how dumb I was for thinking such stupid things.
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| Re: Seriously? [message #403592 is a reply to message #403280] |
Tue, 22 September 2009 13:14 |
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Also, it's not as though there aren't other forms of communication. Again, I understand your concern Crimson, but sometimes security comes at the cost of freedom. It's almost never worth the tradeoff in the end.
Toggle Spoiler| Scrin wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 13:22 |
| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!   
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| Re: Seriously? [message #403598 is a reply to message #403586] |
Tue, 22 September 2009 16:26 |
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| Crimson wrote on Tue, 22 September 2009 13:53 |
Read the rule again:
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Private Messaging: Due to the inability to screen private messages, your ability to use them may be temporarily disabled if you are suspected to be involved or closely related to the violation of any of forum rules.
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That's exactly what I'm talking about. Without the ability to read them, (and the fact that I find that to be a breach of privacy that I do not wish to commit), the removal of private message PRIVILEGES may have to occur while a leak is still active.
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I see you continue to evade responding to my simple question about why my PM was disabled, despite the fact that I have leaked NOTHING.
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| Re: Seriously? [message #403600 is a reply to message #403598] |
Tue, 22 September 2009 17:37 |
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| SoQRadio wrote on Wed, 23 September 2009 09:26 |
| Crimson wrote on Tue, 22 September 2009 13:53 |
Read the rule again:
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Private Messaging: Due to the inability to screen private messages, your ability to use them may be temporarily disabled if you are suspected to be involved or closely related to the violation of any of forum rules.
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That's exactly what I'm talking about. Without the ability to read them, (and the fact that I find that to be a breach of privacy that I do not wish to commit), the removal of private message PRIVILEGES may have to occur while a leak is still active.
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I see you continue to evade responding to my simple question about why my PM was disabled, despite the fact that I have leaked NOTHING.
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Im in the same boat, my p.m. function as been disabled for some time now, and i have never ever leaked any information about anything.
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| Re: Seriously? [message #403601 is a reply to message #403530] |
Tue, 22 September 2009 19:08 |
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| Crimson wrote on Tue, 22 September 2009 01:37 |
That's bullshit. I've removed countless Reborn leaks, leaks of other mods, people's private information (such as phone numbers, real names), etc. over the years. It's only now that NS has become a victim that all of sudden I'm "biased".
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Hmm. I wasn't considering them.
Tushe, I suppose.
Edit:
I do tend to agree with what Zimmer said (lol). I can personally see two roles here. One is a role of concern and security, the other is just the flaunting of show-offy power.
If someone is to be involved in an info leak, the info would most effectively be spread through faster means, such as an IM.. not a PM on a forum, especially a forum were the admin is also an admin of what the leak pertains to.
Wouldn't it be more effective to punish said people by revoking a more effective privilege? What exactly is revoking PMs going to do other than start a bunch of stupid debates that get a bunch of ignorant bystanders, like myself, involved?
(I'm about to get flamed from the other side for saying that, but that's how I feel the punishment should be dealt.
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| Re: Seriously? [message #403606 is a reply to message #403280] |
Tue, 22 September 2009 20:22 |
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Ok seriously, I don't care about the n00bstories issue; it happened, it's done.
I would just like my PM privileges back. I did not leak anything or even PM anybody during the time all that shit took place. But now I can see multiple PMs waiting that I can't possibly read at this moment. Look, if you'd like, dump all the SQL entries associated to my PM inbox and then I'll supply the exact same amount of PMs to your email, or wherever. I'd just like use of it again.
And just to say, Chew was never really involved with Exodus. SoQRadio plays there, but wasn't even playing Renegade when all this happened I believe...
| -TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Mon, 18 March 2013 07:29 |
Instead of showing us that u aren't more inteligent than a Toast, maybe you should start becomming good in renegade 
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| Re: Seriously? [message #403614 is a reply to message #403280] |
Tue, 22 September 2009 23:50 |
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If I understand correctly, as Crimson has no way of knowing who would leak this information, she choose to disable PM rights for anyone from close or from far involved in the issue. So that explains why some of you, who did nothing but become an active player / member of this new community, got their PM right disabled.
That being said, it's honorable from Crimson to respect your privacy. Especially as it's extremely easy to modify this forum software to allow the admins to read PM's.
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| Re: Seriously? [message #403619 is a reply to message #403586] |
Wed, 23 September 2009 00:56 |
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| Crimson wrote on Tue, 22 September 2009 20:53 |
Read the rule again:
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Private Messaging: Due to the inability to screen private messages, your ability to use them may be temporarily disabled if you are suspected to be involved or closely related to the violation of any of forum rules.
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That's exactly what I'm talking about. Without the ability to read them, (and the fact that I find that to be a breach of privacy that I do not wish to commit), the removal of private message PRIVILEGES may have to occur while a leak is still active.
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So if I understand it right you either block some peoples PM's at random? Or if I read the rules right, you should disable the PM system while a leak is active.
Anyway, for what time is a leak active then? I mean, if exodus counts as an active leak then that's fine, but please elaborate.
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