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| IronWarrior wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 16:00 |
| nikki6ixx wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 14:51 |
But a computer with those components will cost a shitton of money.
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Well, he has a budget of $1500, which is enough for all that.
He could build a i7 920, 6 GB DDR3, 1600MHz, nVidia 260 SLI/275/280, 4870X2 x2 CFX or 4980 CF for about $1000 from newegg of cause, all depends on the hardware models of cause.
Spending $1000-$1500 is a lot of money, it shouldn't be a rush, the best advice that anyone should give him is to research the different parts, look at every website for different prices and mess around with different builds, ask at computer hardware forums for advice.
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Trust me I will be bugging the fuck out of some of you with some questions here and there once I get started lol
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| Re: Price Range For A Gaming Computer [message #385102 is a reply to message #385096] |
Fri, 08 May 2009 18:23 |
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| SSnipe wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 18:27 |
| IronWarrior wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 16:00 |
| nikki6ixx wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 14:51 |
But a computer with those components will cost a shitton of money.
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Well, he has a budget of $1500, which is enough for all that.
He could build a i7 920, 6 GB DDR3, 1600MHz, nVidia 260 SLI/275/280, 4870X2 x2 CFX or 4980 CF for about $1000 from newegg of cause, all depends on the hardware models of cause.
Spending $1000-$1500 is a lot of money, it shouldn't be a rush, the best advice that anyone should give him is to research the different parts, look at every website for different prices and mess around with different builds, ask at computer hardware forums for advice.
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Trust me I will be bugging the fuck out of some of you with some questions here and there once I get started lol
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That's the way man, just keep asking questions, remember everyone including me is bist and have our favorite hardware etc, always look up reviewes on hardware, so for example, look at reviews for the Intel i7 920 and you see the good and the bad about it, than you can make up your own mind on if you wanna go that route.
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| Re: Price Range For A Gaming Computer [message #385104 is a reply to message #384423] |
Fri, 08 May 2009 19:04 |
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Well I know this is not the best post but here s a few questions since we on the subject
1)Can someone explain north bridge and south bridge more?
2)Whats the fastest and most comma PCI slow (with speed)?
3)Whats better not in your eyes but overall intel or amd?
4)whats a good amount of volts for a power supply?
5)whats a good vido card for games now days? what i mean is lets say nvidia 9800 gt now lets say this one is recommended for most games, now tell me that so I know that I dont need to get a higher one for a higher price
Sorry about all these, yes google is helpful and I do search there but sometimes want to hear it from more people I know
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| Re: Price Range For A Gaming Computer [message #385136 is a reply to message #385125] |
Fri, 08 May 2009 22:59 |
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| Zack wrote on Sat, 09 May 2009 06:09 |
1) Can someone explain north bridge and south bridge more?
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there different chipsets that handle different functions of the motherboard
example would be most southbridge chipsets manage the onboard usb ports
i would normally think integrated video
not sure offhand
i suppose it depends on the motherboard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northbridge_(computing)
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north and southbridge are not that important anymore, as the traditional primary function of the northbridge has been taken over by the CPU in both INtel as AMD latest generation
2) Whats the fastest and most comma PCI slow (with speed)?
Uhh. Re-phrase your question. I can't understand it.
PCI speed isn't relevant, but if you want to know PCI-e 16x 2.0 is the fastest what you can get
3) Whats better not in your eyes but overall intel or amd?
Like lone said. Intel is more expensive for a reason. 
If you got the money I'd go for a core i7, if you're tight on budget then a top of the line AMD phenom II is certainly not a bad investment
4) whats a good amount of volts for a power supply?
I bought a 750W for my rig just last month. So far I can't say that's enough, but I've had people buy similar and say it's enough.
Most people buy PSU's that are way too heavy for their system. I have yet to see a system (non overclocked and no sli configuration) that uses 350+watts. I myself have a 580 Watts PSU and got a Core i7 (@4GHz@1,4v) 2x 1TB HDD, 1x 250GB HDD, ATI HD4870 1GB OC edition, audigy 2 ZS, and a shitload of USB pheperals connected. Runs fine, and I bet that my PSU is in the most efficient range now, with load(a PSU is most efficient with about 50% load).
5) whats a good vido card for games now days? what i mean is lets say nvidia 9800 gt now lets say this one is recommended for most games, now tell me that so I know that I dont need to get a higher one for a higher price
nVidia 8800GT, 9X00xx and the GTS250 are all the same GPU's just renamed. Wouldn't buy one of those, because they are pretty old already. I'd recommend a Nvidia 275GTX/285GTX or an ATI HD4870/HD4890 1GB edition. You should make sure that the videocard has more than 512MB if you want to be somewhat future proof
The latest from nVidia is the GeForce 250GTX or something like that. They're about $200 (could be $300) when I saw them in Bestbuy the other day looking for a new harddrive.
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| Re: Price Range For A Gaming Computer [message #385365 is a reply to message #385067] |
Sun, 10 May 2009 02:48 |
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| IronWarrior wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 15:28 |
Wow, you must be living in a cave.
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You must not be comprehending me. My arguments are based on the fact that these aren't the best price to performance parts, not that they're not better than something inferior.| IronWarrior wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 15:28 |
You only need to see Futuremark results to see the preformance on how great the i7 CPU's are and since the i7 920 is only 200 or so GPU and can be OC'ed to 4-5GHz on AIR, shit overclockers are getting them to 6-7GHz on LN2
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Since when was Futuremark the be all end all of how good a CPU is? There's many aspects to that (heat output, power usage, efficiency, and yes, I'd say price even), and a benchmark is the last of them.
Liquid nitrogen? It's nice that it's possible, but it's not practical. Core 2 CPUs go just as far. So what? Will any of that matter to SSnipe?
4-5GHz? That's believable, but again, not so common. Show me results that have good temperatures and voltage levels without exotic cooling, and no, XtrmeSystems.org loses you points (since we know the best of the best are there and that hardly reflects a good mean average to judge something by).
Do you have a Core i7? You have water cooling? How much did you put into it. How far did it overclock? Those things are said to get warm with air cooling (though some people have found disabling Hyper-threading can help lower temperatures).| IronWarrior wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 15:28 |
CFX and SLi are not a waste at all, again, look at benchmarks, am using CFX now and am getting FPS gain in most games I play, including Renegade.
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Benchmarks!? It's about real world results!
SLi and Corssfire give gains, but you pay twice for two cards (and more for an SLi or Crossfire motherboard), and get much less than two times the gain. SLi and Crossfire scale better with Core i7, and it is improving, but it's still not worth it to most people.| IronWarrior wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 15:28 |
SSD's are not a waste at all, they are a revolution in storage, the fact that they give 0.1 or so seconds in read times, which allows for programs for example like games to start up fully soon as you click the icon while a old HDD drive can take 10-50x longer.
Have you even seen any benchmarks for them, lol?
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Ungh, benchmarks again? It's easy to say 10-50x, but in most circumstances, it's not uncommon for a SSD to not even be 3x or even 2x quicker than a standard HDD.
I look forward to HDDs being replaced by SSDs, and actually want it to happen faster, but it's not there yet. SSDs read quicker, but can tend to write slower. They also tend to have a shorter lifetime, and that's a concern with HDDs as it is, let alone the higher price and shorter lifetime combination fails. When they improve and price comes down, things will transition, but right now, the premium isn't worth it.| IronWarrior wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 15:28 |
One thing we can agree on is that if he wants a good computer, than the next gen is almost here, nVidia GT300 GPU's are almost here, DX11 and ATi's 5870X2 as well as Intels i5 CPU's.
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I would advise waiting until the new GPUs come out, but the Core i5 isn't anything to concern yourself with really.
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| Re: Price Range For A Gaming Computer [message #385470 is a reply to message #384423] |
Sun, 10 May 2009 22:14 |
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Because you're too ignorant to see the point I'm saying because it doesn't match up with what you think about how benchmarks and a bunch of people on XtremeSystems.org forums mean anything and everything, period, the be all end all, about PCs?
Newsflash in case you missed my point. I'm just saying a better price to performance ratio build would be better for SSnipe. You can identify more power and higher prices, congratulations, but do you lack common sense or comprehension or something?
Argue my points if you're going to act superior in knowledge or opinion on the matter. Personally, I think your near silence says it all.
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| Re: Price Range For A Gaming Computer [message #385478 is a reply to message #384423] |
Sun, 10 May 2009 23:47 |
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You're best to look around at a variety of forums, and do some reading and research.
A good place to start would be "Techspot's" guide. They've made three lists for a budget, mid-line, and high-end PC.
http://www.techspot.com/guides/159-buying-guide-200904/
It'll give you an idea of what components you'll need, and some you might want. Just keep in mind that the setups include monitor, keyboard, etc.
The other thing to keep in mind is to always ask yourself: 'Do I need this?' For gaming, you don't need the most powerful CPU, and in quite a few cases, people buy components that are expensive, and do not provide a huge boost in performance when compared to ones that are cheaper.
You'll need to do your homework, because asking people what's good what/what isn't always leads to fanboy wars, and nerd-rage. Figure out what you intend to be doing with your PC, what resolutions you want to game at, and whether you want to heavily upgrade in the future, and then people will have a clearer idea of what your goal is.
You might find out that you don't need to spend 1.5K on something you'll love, and for every fifty bucks you save, then that's another chunk of cash you can put to a game, or your bank account. 
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Nikki's right, try to write down what you want to use it for at this moment and what you think you'll use it for in the future and for how long. Also include things as "it is not important for me to play the newest games on full graphics" or "I want to be able to upgrade in 2 years", etc.
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| Re: Price Range For A Gaming Computer [message #385528 is a reply to message #385479] |
Mon, 11 May 2009 10:59 |
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| Goztow wrote on Sun, 10 May 2009 23:50 |
Nikki's right, try to write down what you want to use it for at this moment and what you think you'll use it for in the future and for how long. Also include things as "it is not important for me to play the newest games on full graphics" or "I want to be able to upgrade in 2 years", etc.
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1)I want a pretty fast computer, as being a vista users im sick of slow laggy computer
2)I want to have at least one of every type of connector I can on the motherboard (well not all but If i want to add stuff later like a sound card and video card I can and will)
3)I want to buy a really good video card, it dont have to be the best one out on market but a still damn good one to play games
4)have atleast 4 min and 8 max of memory
5)be able to upgrade it of course
6)now i want a quad core since there are starting to come out, but not sure to go with intel or AMD
7)I do other stuff to, networking,download movies, rip and burn tons of dvds, video editing software etc
i thinkt hats it for now
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| Re: Price Range For A Gaming Computer [message #385534 is a reply to message #384584] |
Mon, 11 May 2009 11:41 |
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| Ryan3k wrote on Wed, 06 May 2009 19:22 |
| MasterEvolution wrote on Wed, 06 May 2009 09:04 |
Also if you got in a car accident then you should pay off to fix your car and stuff, not a gaming computer.
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Good idea!
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or spend that money with girls, or with ack.
sorry for my English
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