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Just a question concerning custom models... [message #380510] Wed, 15 April 2009 15:26 Go to next message
IAmFenix is currently offline  IAmFenix
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When the patch it released, is it going to stop any custom models?

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Re: Just a question concerning custom models... [message #380595 is a reply to message #380510] Thu, 16 April 2009 02:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Server owners can allow the models they choose, but overall they will be blocked (because it would simply be too hard to stop cheats stemming from them).

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Re: Just a question concerning custom models... [message #381413 is a reply to message #380510] Sun, 19 April 2009 23:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Will this be enforced by not allowing the player to join or forcing the client to load the model from always.dat?

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Re: Just a question concerning custom models... [message #381414 is a reply to message #381413] Sun, 19 April 2009 23:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dthdealer wrote on Mon, 20 April 2009 08:16

Will this be enforced by not allowing the player to join or forcing the client to load the model from always.dat?

The latter.


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Re: Just a question concerning custom models... [message #381416 is a reply to message #381414] Sun, 19 April 2009 23:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks - that's a better solution than what Renguard enforced on clients trying to join 'pure' servers.

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Re: Just a question concerning custom models... [message #381651 is a reply to message #380595] Tue, 21 April 2009 05:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ghostshaw wrote on Thu, 16 April 2009 05:25

Server owners can allow the models they choose, but overall they will be blocked (because it would simply be too hard to stop cheats stemming from them).

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Re: Just a question concerning custom models... [message #382756 is a reply to message #380510] Sun, 26 April 2009 15:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So, what we'd do is have the server owners start a topic for custom models that we'd like to use ingame and have the owners approve them?

Re: Just a question concerning custom models... [message #382799 is a reply to message #380510] Sun, 26 April 2009 16:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well we will provide a utility which allows a modeller (or server owner of course) to hash a w3d. Then they can post that with the release and each individual server owner can decide wether to add it to their "exceptions" list. At least thats the current rough idea.

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Re: Just a question concerning custom models... [message #382841 is a reply to message #382799] Sun, 26 April 2009 20:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ghostshaw wrote on Sun, 26 April 2009 18:47

Well we will provide a utility which allows a modeller (or server owner of course) to hash a w3d. Then they can post that with the release and each individual server owner can decide wether to add it to their "exceptions" list. At least thats the current rough idea.


so this means it will be able to auto-detect which model is being used? how bout we just go a simpler route, only block models that create an advantage. but please, let's not be too anal on which models are blocked. another aspect of keeping renegade alive, i believe, is keeping it's easy customization allowed.


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Re: Just a question concerning custom models... [message #382867 is a reply to message #380510] Sun, 26 April 2009 23:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think I would leave renegade if there were no more modified models allowed. But this sounds allright Smile

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Re: Just a question concerning custom models... [message #382884 is a reply to message #382841] Mon, 27 April 2009 00:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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2GLOCK9S wrote on Sun, 26 April 2009 23:27

Ghostshaw wrote on Sun, 26 April 2009 18:47

Well we will provide a utility which allows a modeller (or server owner of course) to hash a w3d. Then they can post that with the release and each individual server owner can decide wether to add it to their "exceptions" list. At least thats the current rough idea.


so this means it will be able to auto-detect which model is being used? how bout we just go a simpler route, only block models that create an advantage. but please, let's not be too anal on which models are blocked. another aspect of keeping renegade alive, i believe, is keeping it's easy customization allowed.




And how do you suggest we create a computer program that determines if a model creates an advantage when most *humans* can't agree on that same thing?
Re: Just a question concerning custom models... [message #382887 is a reply to message #382884] Mon, 27 April 2009 01:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Saberhawk wrote on Mon, 27 April 2009 02:53

2GLOCK9S wrote on Sun, 26 April 2009 23:27

Ghostshaw wrote on Sun, 26 April 2009 18:47

Well we will provide a utility which allows a modeller (or server owner of course) to hash a w3d. Then they can post that with the release and each individual server owner can decide wether to add it to their "exceptions" list. At least thats the current rough idea.


so this means it will be able to auto-detect which model is being used? how bout we just go a simpler route, only block models that create an advantage. but please, let's not be too anal on which models are blocked. another aspect of keeping renegade alive, i believe, is keeping it's easy customization allowed.




And how do you suggest we create a computer program that determines if a model creates an advantage when most *humans* can't agree on that same thing?

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Re: Just a question concerning custom models... [message #382902 is a reply to message #380510] Mon, 27 April 2009 03:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Only blocking certain models is alot easier to bypass then blocking all models but a few exceptions.

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Re: Just a question concerning custom models... [message #383842 is a reply to message #381414] Fri, 01 May 2009 14:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Mon, 20 April 2009 01:17

Dthdealer wrote on Mon, 20 April 2009 08:16

Will this be enforced by not allowing the player to join or forcing the client to load the model from always.dat?

The latter.

i'm sure there's a way to create your own always


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Re: Just a question concerning custom models... [message #383849 is a reply to message #383842] Fri, 01 May 2009 15:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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2GLOCK9S wrote on Fri, 01 May 2009 17:29

Goztow wrote on Mon, 20 April 2009 01:17

Dthdealer wrote on Mon, 20 April 2009 08:16

Will this be enforced by not allowing the player to join or forcing the client to load the model from always.dat?

The latter.

i'm sure there's a way to create your own always


There definitely is, but don't you think we'd block that? Razz
Re: Just a question concerning custom models... [message #384989 is a reply to message #383849] Fri, 08 May 2009 04:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OMFG, I won't be able to use my just created crystal clear NON-advantage skins any longer???

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Re: Just a question concerning custom models... [message #385369 is a reply to message #384989] Sun, 10 May 2009 03:19 Go to previous message
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rrutk wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 12:50

OMFG, I won't be able to use my just created crystal clear NON-advantage skins any longer???

index.php?t=getfile&id=10569&private=0

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