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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363793 is a reply to message #363791] |
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| RoShamBo wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 17:33 |
| havocide3 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 23:19 |
| Cabal8616 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 18:11 |
hey guize i made something that has been done before i demand ur respect o and if u dont kno me then you have no right to talk.
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There's no winning with you people. Cabal, you obviously have no idea what this was, and that it HASN'T been done before. Anyways, I'm done. This thread has turned into fish pictures and ignorant replies.
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It's been done many times before, Wol is just an IRC server with some extra features.
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Exactly, as far as I know, XWIS was another third party WOL ages back before it became the official WOL. I do appreciate the work that went into it, but seeing as how it's not been applied or anything, it just seems like it was all for naught.
The only reason why you seem to be posting that, is for the sole purpose of being like "hey this happened, therefore, your arguement is invalid", rather than having an actual, valid point to it.
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363798 is a reply to message #363458] |
Thu, 18 December 2008 17:30 |
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Lets look at what everyone has said:
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I would advise anyone with any kind of sanity NOT to waste their time reading that.
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But how would he know...
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I didn't look at it so I don't know if he actually changed anything.
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Oh wait I know why he wouldn't "advise" to read it. He was there and he knew how stupid he sounded and therefore decided to deter you all from witnessing his immense stupidity. Also, I assure you I didn't change anything, the nonsensical shit that you see in that log is from nobody but luv2pb.
Here is another one of my favorites:
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Can't fucking stand people that judge others by how long they've been around. That's basically all I have to say.
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Thats funny:
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Have you ever wondered why less and less people join the Renegade community?...it's the attitude some of the "oldbies" here take- "You weren't here, therefore, you are not welcome" is the general feel that seems to be given off.
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Shit changes when you don't check a forum for a million years or whatever you've been busy doing that supersedes the Renegade community. Don't expect to be on top of the mountain the moment you come back.
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 ????? Try again before you contradict yourself. I guess only me and Havocide's seniority is open to judgment!
I don't expect you all to understand why Linkup would have succeeded because you were all too busy embracing XWIS and Clanwars.cc to open yourself to something better. If you ask anyone who knows about it, they'll tell you the extensive time, testing and money we put into building that project. Ironically, it was made by people that I'm pretty sure you all hate.
In fact, let me go ahead and examine JUST the Linkup dev team's relationship and contributory actions regarding the Renegade community.
xptek -> Joined community in 2003. Provided network defense, application security analysis, community support, Linkup coder, 2000+ posts on Renforums, frequented IRC. Received requests to retaliate against parties who DDoS'd Crimson's servers.Lead movement to incorporate APB and n00bstories into the development process of Linkup by consulting with them every step of the way.
Result: Banned twice. GZlined on IRC. left community in frustration.
null -> Joined community in September 2002 after leaving WSE. Frequented IRC. Advised Crimson to branch into games other than Renegade (specifically Counter-Strike.) Former n00bstories halfop. Provided IRC server (2004) avast.n00bstories.com - Maintained relationships with underground groups to seek incoming attacks against n00bstories, warned Crimson and attempt to convince the perpetrators otherwise. Orchestrated many retaliatory acts against communities that threated n00bstories. Worked with Crimson on analysis of EA's move to XWIS and worked silently to lead an alternative to the unstable, stratified and buggy WOL clone. Asked to be banned many times so that nobody would suspect that I was working to help her.
Result: Banned several times (not by Crimson and not by my request). Lost half-op. After attempting many times to mend the gap by apologizing, introducing new people into the IRC (both me and my 30+ community members were harassed constantly) or even trying to positively contribute again, each attempt failed.
I won't even get into how Kholdstare and Aprime are treated here. Aprime worked tirelessly to develop a beautiful interface for Linkup. Kholdstare has been loyal to Crimson for years, but has gotten absolutely nothing in return. Its disgusting.
Now for fun, lets compare other people's contributions:
Spoony ->
June 2006:
Spoony tries to pedal Clanwars.cc as some sort of alternative to the WOL clan ladder. Granted one didn't exist, but Linkup and BHS were both moving to make one. Renforums receives DDoS.
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The only gripe I can bring to mind is neither XWIS nor RenegadeCommunity.com have, or have ever had, anything in the way of clan support for Renegade. I'm just saying, I've brought up a suggestion which will benefit everyone and be of detriment to no-one, and it seems to have fallen on deaf ears. On the ears of Electronic Arts, however, it's resulted in our league being sponsored with hundreds of dollars' worth of prizes, which I think is food for thought for all the EA-haters on this forum who claim they don't support the older games.
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September 2006:
Spoony bitches to Apoc and Crimson gets shit on by Apoc because she did not throw herself all over the concept of sponsoring a generic, third party ladder system.
Result: Received Apoc and Crimson's support (somehow?). Became moderator of RenegadeCommunity.com forums.
You all like to bitch about logic, so heres some flawed logic:
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Active community member -> Does Crimson's dirty work -> Attempted to provide a better WOL -> Stripped of ops and banned.
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Shows up out of nowhere -> Spews some crap about CW.cc -> Considered a community leader
luv2pb:
Goes to n00bparty -> Becomes a n00bstories administrator
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Joey - irc.supragame.com says:
Do you maintain the website
Joey - irc.supragame.com says:
like
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andrew282 and ethenal do that
Joey - irc.supragame.com says:
what about the servers
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and are building the new ones as well
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what about them?
Joey - irc.supragame.com says:
do you debug them and such
Joey - irc.supragame.com says:
if something goes wrong, you fix it yourself?
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it is far and few between but on the rare occasion yes I deal with the servers
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typically only the Ren one ever needs me - the others are pretty much trouble free
Joey - irc.supragame.com says:
I wonder why all those things run trouble free
Joey - irc.supragame.com says:
somehow I really do not think it was due to your efforts, no offence
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I seriously encourage you to read the log and see for yourself.
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363803 is a reply to message #363458] |
Thu, 18 December 2008 17:45 |
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Ok, so if you have such horrible misgivings about these people, then why are you not settling this score via PM, email, or any other behind the scenes correspondence?
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363810 is a reply to message #363798] |
Thu, 18 December 2008 18:22 |
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| null.var wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 18:30 |
I don't expect you all to understand why Linkup would have succeeded because you were all too busy embracing XWIS and Clanwars.cc to open yourself to something better. If you ask anyone who knows about it, they'll tell you the extensive time, testing and money we put into building that project. Ironically, it was made by people that I'm pretty sure you all hate.
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You think you could have provided a clan ladder that was "something better" than Clanwars.cc? If the answer's yes (and I have the feeling any competitive clan player would laugh at you at this point), then why didn't you? Why has the tangible contribution to this game in terms of a clan ladder (a necessary function of the game) been absolutely nothing?
Now, you're not alone in this regard; plenty of other people haven't provided a clan ladder for this game. Me and my colleagues at CW are the only people who have. Those are the facts... although that's irrelevant to you, and always has been. Whether players had a clan ladder to use or not never mattered to you, clearly.
| null.var wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 18:30 |
null -> Joined community in September 2002 after leaving WSE. Frequented IRC. Advised Crimson to branch into games other than Renegade (specifically Counter-Strike.) Former n00bstories halfop. Provided IRC server (2004) avast.n00bstories.com - Maintained relationships with underground groups to seek incoming attacks against n00bstories, warned Crimson and attempt to convince the perpetrators otherwise. Orchestrated many retaliatory acts against communities that threated n00bstories. Worked with Crimson on analysis of EA's move to XWIS and worked silently to lead an alternative to the unstable, stratified and buggy WOL clone. Asked to be banned many times so that nobody would suspect that I was working to help her.
Result: Banned several times (not by Crimson and not by my request). Lost half-op. After attempting many times to mend the gap by apologizing, introducing new people into the IRC (both me and my 30+ community members were harassed constantly) or even trying to positively contribute again, each attempt failed.
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So in a nutshell, your boasting right is that you played a small part in undoing some of the damage you did in the first place? And you bitch at someone like luv2pb for not knowing about it when it was all secret anyway? Your stupidity is breathtaking.
| null.var wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 18:30 |
Now for fun, lets compare other people's contributions:
Spoony ->
June 2006:
Spoony tries to pedal Clanwars.cc as some sort of alternative to the WOL clan ladder. Granted one didn't exist, but Linkup and BHS were both moving to make one.
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Why didn't they? Why didn't you? We already had one. We had one since 2002 and barring the odd ddos attack from losers like you, it's always been there. We actually gave a shit about the players. You didn't. You've done nothing to provide a clan ladder. Get that word: nothing.
| null.var wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 18:30 |
Renforums receives DDoS.
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And you went and told Apoc that I did it... you lied... again.
| null.var wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 18:30 |
September 2006:
Spoony bitches to Apoc and Crimson gets shit on by Apoc because she did not throw herself all over the concept of sponsoring a generic, third party ladder system.
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I did not complain to Apoc about that. As for "bitching to Apoc", you're the one with the habit of running to him and lying to make someone look bad, remember?
| null.var wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 18:30 |
Result: Received Apoc and Crimson's support (somehow?). Became moderator of RenegadeCommunity.com forums.
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Uh, if you mean moderator here, that's only in the CGN forum section (makes sense since the CGN was my creation in the first place) and the tactics section, neither of which carry a great deal of authority. It is a bit of an exaggeration to describe myself as a full moderator here.
| null.var wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 18:30 |
You all like to bitch about logic, so heres some flawed logic:
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Active community member -> Does Crimson's dirty work -> Attempted to provide a better WOL -> Stripped of ops and banned.
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Yeah, you were SO ACTIVE that you've just had to tell everyone good things about you in the feeble hope it counteracts the bad things about you? That alone ought to give you a clue about how little you've contributed to the community... at least, it would if you were a little brighter than you are.
| null.var wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 18:30 |
Spoony:
Shows up out of nowhere -> Spews some crap about CW.cc
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sorry, shows up out of nowhere? spews some crap about Clanwars.cc? that's a really strange way of describing the fact that I've hosted a clan ladder for several years, something you did not care about the community enough to do. See above re: "nothing"
| null.var wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 18:30 |
-> Considered a community leader
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I never really considered myself a community leader outside of Clanwars.cc, but the bitterness in this statement is sufficiently satisfying that I don't feel like arguing against it.
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363814 is a reply to message #363777] |
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| Dover wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 17:59 |
| havocide3 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 14:41 |
| Dover wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 17:34 |
Fuck yeah! Plecos! This topic instantly went from shit to awesome!
And lol @ xwis clones.
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This would've superseded xwis had it been used.
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It's the same story with all xwis clones. "This is better! This would've replaced xwis!" Could've, would've, should've, but didn't. The "why" is of minimal importance, which means the xwis clone is of minimal importance. You brought this up to show us why we should care about null, yet I'm left caring even less than I did before.
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You have absolutely NO clue what potential that it had and why it failed. Yours and everybody else's bullshit assumptions about Linkup as a WOL-clone (NOT XWIS clone, morons) is just that... bullshit.
You guys are right to bitch about null being a troll that's doing nothing but causing a stir, but don't think that Linkup can be grouped into that.
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363817 is a reply to message #363458] |
Thu, 18 December 2008 18:40 |
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I don't have time to reply to everything, but luv2pb was the lead admin for the Renegade server for a good 2 years or more before n00bparty. His responsibilities have increased over time, but it's not a product of his attendance at n00bparty so much as a product of him *gasp* doing a good job, having good ideas, and (most of the time) having good motivation. Also, I have had to delegate a lot of stuff away in the last year that I've been running my business.
I won't knock or belittle your contributions on my behalf when I was a frequent target of DDoS attacks from people you at some point probably considered friends. I definitely don't miss those days AT ALL.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363818 is a reply to message #363814] |
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| cheesesoda wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 17:33 |
| Dover wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 17:59 |
| havocide3 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 14:41 |
| Dover wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 17:34 |
Fuck yeah! Plecos! This topic instantly went from shit to awesome!
And lol @ xwis clones.
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This would've superseded xwis had it been used.
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It's the same story with all xwis clones. "This is better! This would've replaced xwis!" Could've, would've, should've, but didn't. The "why" is of minimal importance, which means the xwis clone is of minimal importance. You brought this up to show us why we should care about null, yet I'm left caring even less than I did before.
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You have absolutely NO clue what potential that it had and why it failed. Yours and everybody else's bullshit assumptions about Linkup as a WOL-clone (NOT XWIS clone, morons) is just that... bullshit.
You guys are right to bitch about null being a troll that's doing nothing but causing a stir, but don't think that Linkup can be grouped into that.
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You're right! This linkup thing I've never heard of is the greatest advance in the entire history of Renegade! It has benefited each and every player because of it's fine innovations and prompt implementation!
Oh, wait...
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363819 is a reply to message #363812] |
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| null.var wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 19:30 |
The reason we were not able to finish the Clan ladder is because xptek and Lee wrote everything from scratch. We had to seek outside help and eventually, we lost both developers because we faced such brutal opposition in the community.
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So what you're saying is their precious feelings being hurt was more important than providing the clan ladder the community needed?
Well, thanks for answering my question of why you provided nothing to the community in terms of a clan ladder, although it hardly works in your favour.
| null.var wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 19:30 |
Unlike you, we attempted to use the clan support that was already integrated with the Westwood game clients, as opposed to a reporting system.
Excuse us for attempting to make a quality, fully functioning product.
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Oh, I would not slate you for attempting it, despite your unmitigated failure. I'm not you, you see. If anything I would've applauded your efforts, and welcomed the competition. Although, even if you could've been bothered to finish the product, I very much doubt it would've presented my ladder with anything resembling "competition", any more than jschultz's ladder did.
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363824 is a reply to message #363822] |
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| null.var wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 19:44 |
It couldn't be implemented because our developers got fed up with the shit we got from Chronojam, Saberhawk, Silent_Kane, Spoony and Olaf. I can't say I blame them for not putting up with it.
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What did I do?
| null.var wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 19:44 |
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I would've applauded your efforts, and welcomed the competition. Although, even if you could've been bothered to finish the product, I rather doubt it would've been more popular and successful than my clan ladder.
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Of course it would have, and thats why you went trying to Kauffman about me and Crimson not immediately agreeing with you. Way to go.
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You seem even more confused than usual at this point.
You're saying that I felt threatened by this clan ladder I didn't know even about? Indeed, how could anyone know about it, seeing as how for all intents and purposes it didn't exist?
Read your own posts and see how much sense you aren't making.
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That implies lack of desire/ambition/ability on the part of null and the rest of the Linkup team. Don't imply shit. Very very few people actually know anything about it.
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Like I said, if I knew about these efforts I probably would've encouraged them, despite the fact they would have been in competition with my own ladder. But, I can hardly be faulted for not knowing about these efforts, can I? You know, given the complete lack of results?
Still, like I said, I'd have given points for trying... whereas null has given me nothing but vitriol for my efforts in the same direction. Maybe what really pisses him off is my efforts were actually successful?
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363826 is a reply to message #363458] |
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You pissed and moaned and bitched until Apoc confronted Crimson.
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I won't knock or belittle your contributions on my behalf when I was a frequent target of DDoS attacks from people you at some point probably considered friends. I definitely don't miss those days AT ALL.
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Jesus Christ thank you. You know, I really appreciate you recognizing that.
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363831 is a reply to message #363826] |
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| null.var wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 19:48 |
You pissed and moaned and bitched until Apoc confronted Crimson.
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I had a legitimate grievance (although you clearly don't seem to know what it was). When you lied to Apoc saying I ddosed this website, you didn't have a legitimate grievance. You were lying. Again.
So let's examine your statement here.
I made a perfectly legitimate complaint, and so your group abandoned your efforts to provide a clan ladder. Meanwhile, you made a completely fictional complaint, a big sack of lies you made up out of nowhere, and unlike you I DIDN'T say "SORRY GUYS! LEAGUE'S CLOSED!"
If your IQ was any lower you might just need watering.
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363833 is a reply to message #363825] |
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| cheesesoda wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 17:44 |
LIKE I SAID, don't make assumptions about why it failed. You haven't the slightest fucking clue, like the rest of the community. I didn't say it was great. I didn't say it benefited anything. All I said is do not insult it because you haven't the slightest fucking clue about it.
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| cheesesoda wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 17:48 |
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Although, even if you could've been bothered to finish the product
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That implies lack of desire/ambition/ability on the part of null and the rest of the Linkup team. Don't imply shit. Very very few people actually know anything about it.
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You're missing the point, cheese, neither I nor Spoony nor anyone else is saying WHY it failed. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter why it failed. The point is it failed. It was never done. It amounted to nothing. Zero. Nada.
And this is what the troll is touting as his great success? This is the reason we should all drop to our knees and suck his e-cock? From the sound of things, he feels he deserves Spoony's/Luv's job. Is this FAILED, NO-PRODUCT project the reason? Give me a fucking break.
TL;DR It would've been nice if this Linkup was finished, and if it somehow blew xwis out of the water, but here's the important bit: IT WASN'T. For whatever reason it may be--Financial, lack of community support, laziness, DDoS, lack of ambitition, whatever. It doesn't matter. The point is that this "Linkup" is now nothing other than a pimple on community's ass from years ago, and null is openly flaunting his dicktree-ness by even bringing something like it up.
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| Spoony wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 19:43 |
So what you're saying is their precious feelings being hurt was more important than providing the clan ladder the community needed?
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Honestly, I didn't really see a point in using my bandwidth and resources to provide a free service to a bunch of whiners and morons. The C&C community is really just fucking hilarious anymore, and this entire discussion only proves that further! 
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Oh, I would not slate you for attempting it, despite your unmitigated failure. I'm not you, you see. If anything I would've applauded your efforts, and welcomed the competition. Although, even if you could've been bothered to finish the product, I very much doubt it would've presented my ladder with anything resembling "competition", any more than jschultz's ladder did.
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The product was finished (the web interface too!), and I don't see why you're trying to compare it to Clanwars. Clanwars is a simple reporting system. Linkup's ladder system follows the original WOL protocol and actually integrated with the game.
Once again, for all you presumptuous fucktards:
Linkup was finished. Ultimately, we decided not to launch the service because the majority of you are stupid.
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| Dover wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 21:07 |
| cheesesoda wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 17:44 |
LIKE I SAID, don't make assumptions about why it failed. You haven't the slightest fucking clue, like the rest of the community. I didn't say it was great. I didn't say it benefited anything. All I said is do not insult it because you haven't the slightest fucking clue about it.
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| cheesesoda wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 17:48 |
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Although, even if you could've been bothered to finish the product
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That implies lack of desire/ambition/ability on the part of null and the rest of the Linkup team. Don't imply shit. Very very few people actually know anything about it.
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You're missing the point, cheese, neither I nor Spoony nor anyone else is saying WHY it failed. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter why it failed. The point is it failed. It was never done. It amounted to nothing. Zero. Nada.
And this is what the troll is touting as his great success? This is the reason we should all drop to our knees and suck his e-cock? From the sound of things, he feels he deserves Spoony's/Luv's job. Is this FAILED, NO-PRODUCT project the reason? Give me a fucking break.
TL;DR It would've been nice if this Linkup was finished, and if it somehow blew xwis out of the water, but here's the important bit: IT WASN'T. For whatever reason it may be--Financial, lack of community support, laziness, DDoS, lack of ambitition, whatever. It doesn't matter. The point is that this "Linkup" is now nothing other than a pimple on community's ass from years ago, and null is openly flaunting his dicktree-ness by even bringing something like it up.
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From what I was reading, it seems like there are insinuations about Linkup because null is being an insufferable cock right now.
I'm certainly not trying to argue that it was a success or that it did anything significant for the community. Obviously, it didn't end up going anywhere. Still, it just seems like Linkup is being judged by simply looking at null's behavior.
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| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363837 is a reply to message #363834] |
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| spigot wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 20:08 |
Honestly, I didn't really see a point in using my bandwidth and resources to provide a free service to a bunch of whiners and morons.
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Then we differ. I provided a clan ladder in spite of the whiners and morons, because I saw it as necessary to the community.
| spigot wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 20:08 |
The product was finished (the web interface too!), and I don't see why you're trying to compare it to Clanwars. Clanwars is a simple reporting system. Linkup's ladder system follows the original WOL protocol and actually integrated with the game.
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Clanwars actually existed.
You could write pages and pages finding as many faults as you could with Clanwars; you could write pages more telling us what a great system Linkup would be. Those three italics words would trump it all.
| spigot wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 20:08 |
Once again, for all you presumptuous fucktards:
Linkup was finished. Ultimately, we decided not to launch the service because the majority of you are stupid.
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So your personal dislike of people here is an excuse to deprive the community as a whole, is it?
That alone tells me all I need to know; it demonstrates with certainty that your ladder would never compare to mine in a million years, and yet I'd still give you credit for trying.
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