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More permanent banning [message #353014] Fri, 03 October 2008 08:21 Go to next message
Jamie or NuneGa is currently offline  Jamie or NuneGa
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pretty much everyone knows how easy it is to ban evade, personally I have evaded quite a few bans that I saw as unjust Wink

Is TT including anything that will make bypassing bans a lot less doable.


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Re: More permanent banning [message #353039 is a reply to message #353014] Fri, 03 October 2008 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can't you ban by serial hash now?

Re: More permanent banning [message #353040 is a reply to message #353039] Fri, 03 October 2008 12:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Serial doesn't matter if you allow direct connections.

How a server handle's their bans should be just upto that place, and that's all.
Re: More permanent banning [message #353460 is a reply to message #353014] Mon, 06 October 2008 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When the idea of limiting to xwis was opted, there was a shitload of reactions against it. It's the only way to check for valid serials, though. It seems that loads of people don't want to pay for the game but want to be able to ban effectively anyway...

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Re: More permanent banning [message #353466 is a reply to message #353460] Mon, 06 October 2008 12:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Some people like me can't use WOL... And I have a valid serial Surprised

CarrierII wrote

BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ

Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.


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Re: More permanent banning [message #353482 is a reply to message #353014] Mon, 06 October 2008 13:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have (Read as: Had) a valid serial on which I created this nick.

I moved house twice, lost my sleeve booklet and am using a donated valid serial but to keep the nick I have to direct connect; I couldn't remember the password. Since you need the serial on which a nick was created in order to reset it's password, I was screwed.


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Re: More permanent banning [message #353486 is a reply to message #353482] Mon, 06 October 2008 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cr0sis wrote on Mon, 06 October 2008 22:16

I have (Read as: Had) a valid serial on which I created this nick.

I moved house twice, lost my sleeve booklet and am using a donated valid serial but to keep the nick I have to direct connect; I couldn't remember the password. Since you need the serial on which a nick was created in order to reset it's password, I was screwed.


You know, if u loose your serial of any game, you're always screwed. It shouldn't be different for renegade. You can create a new nick on your new serial.


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Re: More permanent banning [message #353489 is a reply to message #353014] Mon, 06 October 2008 13:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Serial hash, IP, DNS... just some of the ways most of us ban already.

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Re: More permanent banning [message #353557 is a reply to message #353014] Tue, 07 October 2008 01:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How much was the game again?

Still don't understand why ppl arrogate a working ban system but arn't willing to spend 5 $/€/£ for it Huh


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Re: More permanent banning [message #353570 is a reply to message #353557] Tue, 07 October 2008 04:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well how about if TT gave you another 'serial' which is randomized and then embedded in TT.dll and then send that to the new FDS? Yeah banning by a valid Renegade serial is all good and well if you use WOL but for us that cant it sucks.

CarrierII wrote

BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ

Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.


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Re: More permanent banning [message #353571 is a reply to message #353014] Tue, 07 October 2008 04:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why exactly can't you use WOL again? I know you told me before but I cannot remember it.

A TT serial is no solution as you cannot link it to a user or computer. Everyone needs a serial to install the game and there's an up to date list of valid serials over at xwis.

An in between solution would be to give the server access to the xwis valid serial (hash) list so it can check if direct connecters use a valid serial. However, you'd need Olaf to do this.


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Re: More permanent banning [message #353585 is a reply to message #353014] Tue, 07 October 2008 09:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Of course, your also forgetting the TT scripts.dll will also be used by mods like APB, which are standalone games and do not require a serial to play, but still use XWIS.

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Re: More permanent banning [message #353587 is a reply to message #353585] Tue, 07 October 2008 10:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It says something about WOL components or something.. Ren is the only CNC I have installed. Tbh I haven't bothered with WOL in ages.



CarrierII wrote

BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ

Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.


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Re: More permanent banning [message #353598 is a reply to message #353587] Tue, 07 October 2008 11:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Caveman wrote on Tue, 07 October 2008 19:20

It says something about WOL components or something.. Ren is the only CNC I have installed. Tbh I haven't bothered with WOL in ages.



There's different possible solutions to this problem in the FAQ sticky.


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Re: More permanent banning [message #353607 is a reply to message #353486] Tue, 07 October 2008 11:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Mon, 06 October 2008 15:37

cr0sis wrote on Mon, 06 October 2008 22:16

I have (Read as: Had) a valid serial on which I created this nick.

I moved house twice, lost my sleeve booklet and am using a donated valid serial but to keep the nick I have to direct connect; I couldn't remember the password. Since you need the serial on which a nick was created in order to reset it's password, I was screwed.


You know, if u loose your serial of any game, you're always screwed. It shouldn't be different for renegade. You can create a new nick on your new serial.


I'm not saying it should be different, I'm just saying what I had to do to keep my nick.
The person who gave me their serial to install the game had used the allowance, so I couldn't make a new one.

Further: The reason I had to keep my nick is because I'm a moderator. I'd rather put myself out by having to direct connect than put whoever is in charge of the permissions etc out for my lack of tidyness.


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Re: More permanent banning [message #353610 is a reply to message #353014] Tue, 07 October 2008 12:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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takes me about 60 secs to change a mods nickname on our server ...

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Re: More permanent banning [message #353612 is a reply to message #353014] Tue, 07 October 2008 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you can direct connect and get mod powers on that nick, then everyone can...

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Re: More permanent banning [message #353633 is a reply to message #353014] Tue, 07 October 2008 15:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Or look into RoShamBo's regulator's banning system. Wink

It bans your node that is unique to your computer...even if you've changed your IP.(I'll refer RoShamBo here to explain more as I'm not 100% sure about it Razz)
Re: More permanent banning [message #353634 is a reply to message #353014] Tue, 07 October 2008 15:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Though RoShamBo's regulator's banning system atm is closed source.

Re: More permanent banning [message #353637 is a reply to message #353634] Tue, 07 October 2008 19:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lone0001 wrote on Tue, 07 October 2008 17:57

Though RoShamBo's regulator's banning system atm is closed source.

lmao

What is a node anyway?


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Instead of showing us that u aren't more inteligent than a Toast, maybe you should start becomming good in renegade Thumbs Up

Re: More permanent banning [message #353644 is a reply to message #353014] Tue, 07 October 2008 20:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: More permanent banning [message #353652 is a reply to message #353014] Wed, 08 October 2008 00:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So you basically do a traceroute to find the local node ip and ban it. As simple as genius!

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Re: More permanent banning [message #353657 is a reply to message #353014] Wed, 08 October 2008 02:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hmm, I happen to know a ren player who, if banned by that system, would get me banned. Sad

It's pretty clever though.


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Re: More permanent banning [message #353659 is a reply to message #353657] Wed, 08 October 2008 05:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Right so Daniel has made a decent banning system but is this going to be released with TT? No point saying we have made something that can by you and make sure you stay banned but you can't have it.

CarrierII wrote

BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ

Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.


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Re: More permanent banning [message #353660 is a reply to message #353014] Wed, 08 October 2008 05:17 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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If I understood correctly, it's part of his bot.

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