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Framerate in Renegade [message #344027]

Thu, 31 July 2008 11:19

rrutk
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Concerning the computer of my girlfriend:

She has an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual 2 GHz with a hugh amount of RAM. With a GeForce 8800 GTS (320 MB) she got in Renegade with newest scripts (= really old game, we all know, pimped with some modern grafical effects through scripting) only about 40 Frames/second, most time below this (25 FPS or lower)....
I guess, there is a big problem somewhere? Driver is a new one.

I got with the same grafical adapter and with a Core2Duo 1,87 GHz about 60-70 FPS, little bit more or less, depending on situation.

All with 4x Alias. Shutting down the AA or the Shadows doesnt change something???

I mean, a 8800 GTS should deliver some more FPS with this old game?

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344031 is a reply to message #344027]

Thu, 31 July 2008 11:25

R315r4z0r
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Check the NVIDIA control panel. It may be set up in such a way that it is causing a performance drop.

For example, she may have it set to duel monitor support, or have most graphics settings set to quality and not performance.

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344045 is a reply to message #344031]

Thu, 31 July 2008 11:49

rrutk
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NVIDIA Panel is set to: decision at the application.

Dual view is deactivated.

But: it should show only one monitor (and not the second deactivated one), because there is no plug inserted into the TV connector???

[Updated on: Thu, 31 July 2008 11:52]

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344047 is a reply to message #344027]

Thu, 31 July 2008 11:50

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You might want to check the vsync, too. I had to disable that for my card because it would only let my games go as high as my refresh rate.

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344049 is a reply to message #344047]

Thu, 31 July 2008 11:53

rrutk
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VSync: It's deactivated, of course. Refresh rate would be 60.

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344056 is a reply to message #344027]

Thu, 31 July 2008 12:05

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rrutk wrote on Thu, 31 July 2008 13:19

I mean, a 8800 GTS should deliver some more FPS with this old game?

Nope, check what's running in the background; My bet is there's something using up the CPU overly (like perhaps Norton and friends). Renegade isn't GPU limited at all on most modern cards (6 series and above) so that 8800GTS is really spending most of it's time sitting around Razz

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344057 is a reply to message #344056]

Thu, 31 July 2008 12:10

rrutk
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No, I check and maintain the systems often...I hate Norton&Co Wink

Wink

Ah, ok, so the CPU's are just to slow.

At the computer of my GF i now setted the adjustments to: "performance" instead of "application decision", there are now FPS about 60-70.

But a little bit poor too.

We have to buy some new CPU's, I guess.

What FPS do you have in Renegade?

[Updated on: Thu, 31 July 2008 12:12]

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344063 is a reply to message #344027]

Thu, 31 July 2008 12:17

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I really doubt if you need a new CPU, the spec you posted above for her CPU (AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual 2 GHz) is actually the same as my CPU, and I can run Renegade at a steady 70fps (my refresh rate) quite easily, with all graphics settings maxed out with scripts.dll 3.4.4.

Open task manager and look for ANYTHING that's using CPU time, and decide if you REALLY need it running while you are playing Renegade.

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344064 is a reply to message #344027]

Thu, 31 July 2008 12:19

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Anything above 60 FPS won't have an effect on gameplay anyway.

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344069 is a reply to message #344027]

Thu, 31 July 2008 12:22

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How many players server?

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344077 is a reply to message #344063]

Thu, 31 July 2008 12:43

rrutk
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danpaul88 wrote on Thu, 31 July 2008 14:17

Open task manager and look for ANYTHING that's using CPU time, and decide if you REALLY need it running while you are playing Renegade.

OK, I will try this.

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344078 is a reply to message #344069]

Thu, 31 July 2008 12:44

rrutk
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Goztow wrote on Thu, 31 July 2008 20:22

How many players server?

About 50.

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344089 is a reply to message #344078]

Thu, 31 July 2008 13:18

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rrutk wrote on Thu, 31 July 2008 21:44

Goztow wrote on Thu, 31 July 2008 20:22

How many players server?

About 50.

Well, that explains.

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344091 is a reply to message #344089]

Thu, 31 July 2008 13:21

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lol Gozy...yeah you get frame drops on very large servers. Try playing in a smaller server and try to see if FPS drops or not.

also press F8 --> type "FPS" so it shows all your FPS info on the right side...

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344094 is a reply to message #344027]

Thu, 31 July 2008 13:57

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I can get a solid 60 FPS with a Radeon HD 2600 and a Q6600 (Quad core @ 2.4 ish Ghz) but I have no AA on.

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344225 is a reply to message #344063]

Fri, 01 August 2008 05:34

rrutk
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danpaul88 wrote on Thu, 31 July 2008 14:17

I really doubt if you need a new CPU, the spec you posted above for her CPU (AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual 2 GHz) is actually the same as my CPU, and I can run Renegade at a steady 70fps (my refresh rate) quite easily, with all graphics settings maxed out with scripts.dll 3.4.4.

Open task manager and look for ANYTHING that's using CPU time, and decide if you REALLY need it running while you are playing Renegade.

Yup, there was additionally a "camoflaged" CPU killer on my GF's computer: some media share service from media player 11, which caused unconstantly but high cpu usage.

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344244 is a reply to message #344027]

Fri, 01 August 2008 07:43

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That network media service is a terrible program. Simply sharing a drive over the network containing the media files works better.

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344251 is a reply to message #344027]

Fri, 01 August 2008 08:41

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i have 5200x2 amd 2.5ghz*2 cpu, 4 gigs of ram at 800mhz, and an 8800gt superclocked vid card.

running on win vista, and playing ren on 50 people server it stays at 60 the whole time, since 60 is the most my lcd monitor can take. so im guessing i could easily get higher fps if i had a crt monitor.

well atleast it used to be like that till my 8800gt died last week... now im stuck with 8500gt while i am doing the whole RMA thing

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344410 is a reply to message #344027]

Fri, 01 August 2008 16:38

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XP

Nvidia GeForce 6800 GT

1GB RAM

FPS: Single player missions 110 to 85. Noobless 28 person server about 40 to 5 depending if the lag printer is on. Very Happy

Very Happy

Pentium 4 CPU

It's amazing what a new video card can do.

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344439 is a reply to message #344410]

Fri, 01 August 2008 18:59

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Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 01 August 2008 16:38

XP

Nvidia GeForce 6800 GT

1GB RAM

FPS: Single player missions 110 to 85. Noobless 28 person server about 40 to 5 depending if the lag printer is on. Very Happy

Very Happy

Pentium 4 CPU

It's amazing what a new video card can do.

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Edit: oops, I just remembered that I have 2 GB of RAM (4x 512MB), not 1 GB. Otherwise, same stuff unless my 3.2 GHz P4 is faster than yours.

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344446 is a reply to message #344439]

Fri, 01 August 2008 20:33

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My 8800GT + 1.86GHz Core 2 Duo + 2Gb runs Renegade at 30-60 fps on high traffic servers with 16xQ AA. And its on Vista.

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344475 is a reply to message #344027]

Sat, 02 August 2008 00:20

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Sorry to Hijack this thread, but I am experiencing frame rate issues as well.
Specs: 3 years old Laptop, 1.5GHz Intel Celeron M 270, with Intel 915GMA video card.
My games used to run fine(excluding Renegade of course), but now I get frame rate drops in just about every game I have: Soldier Of Fortune 2, Aliens VS Predator, ...

I have increased the Virtual Memory, which helped me to get more FPS, but the frame rate drops keep happening at almost regular intervals in every game.
Also, when I watch streaming or high resolution videos, frame rate suffers as well.

I tried everything I could think of: System Mechanic 7, Three registry Fixing Programs, Turning off as many tasks as possible, Three adware programs. The only things left that I can think of are trying another Anti-virus program (in case one anti-virus program is not enough), and re-installing Video Card drives.
Could you people provide any more help?

[Updated on: Sat, 02 August 2008 00:21]

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344477 is a reply to message #344027]

Sat, 02 August 2008 00:50

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Terminator, did you try a format and windows reinstall? If you never did it for over 3 years, then this may actually help your laptop run faster.

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344488 is a reply to message #344027]

Sat, 02 August 2008 02:03

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Try looking for any programs that are doing things on the same regular basis as your frame drops are occurring, if the system is busy doing something else then it has less time for Renegade, and therefore you get less frames rendered in that period.

A handy tool for this would be Process Explorer from sys internals, which also shows you disk I/O activity by processes, as well as a CPU usage history per-process.

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Re: Framerate in Renegade [message #344500 is a reply to message #344488]

Sat, 02 August 2008 06:05

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Even though ProcEX is made of ultimate win, a 3 year old celeron CPU and stock onboard GPU just isn't gonna be enough. If you haven't formatted within 3years then do as Gozy suggested. 3 years of installed programs and whatnot doesn't help. But it really boils down to your lappy just doesn't have any bollocks in it.

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