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| Renegade Oldbie Re-union [message #335457] |
Sun, 15 June 2008 15:34  |
ADM
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Hey guys, not sure if you remember me (TrueADM - I founded Renegade Sniper World back in the day) but I've recently been back playing Renegade to pass the summer. Was wondering if there's anyone who still plays? I was thinking of starting up a server again. I'm even up for some AOW with some of the oldbie's. Would be a good laugh. It's been a long time!
Let me know. 
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| Re: Renegade Oldbie Re-union [message #335466 is a reply to message #335457] |
Sun, 15 June 2008 15:56  |
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I was thinking of having an exclusive server for snipers (passworded for those who are known). It'll use the old maps, not these new maps with their customized mods that are quite tacky IMO. The best sniping days were the old days, and if there's enough of the oldbie's back I'll try and bring it back.
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| Re: Renegade Oldbie Re-union [message #335495 is a reply to message #335457] |
Sun, 15 June 2008 20:43 |
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There aren't currently enough players to start another sniper server, especially if you lock it down. A few oldbies play on n00bstories...
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: Renegade Oldbie Re-union [message #335512 is a reply to message #335457] |
Sun, 15 June 2008 23:46 |
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Goztow
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Hey and welcome back. There's still a solid player base but we really don't need more servers, I think.
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: Renegade Oldbie Re-union [message #335539 is a reply to message #335457] |
Mon, 16 June 2008 04:15 |
ADM
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My idea was just to round up the oldbie snipers, I'm not too bothered about a server. Although I have a few servers at university that I could use (each of them have 64Mbit upload which would be nice though).
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| Re: Renegade Oldbie Re-union [message #335546 is a reply to message #335457] |
Mon, 16 June 2008 06:32 |
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Aye, I still play Renegade from time to time. I can't really play this summer since my internet connection is 512kb down... :/
As for a sniper only server...they were fun for going head-to-head with people, but things like unlimited ammo, etc, are all "cheap". I prefer sniping according the rules of core Renegade. You have 36 shots, better make them count.
Sure you can just spam at your target and hope to hit them, or you can practice getting that headshot to finish the deal in a single hit.
Oh, and ADM, I'm sorry bro, I'm nowhere near the sniper I used to be. I'm still good, but nowhere near what I used to be.
Peace out,
-Kingdud
"The object of war is not to die for your country, it's to make the other bas**** die for his." -Patton
WOL: Kingdud
Clan: None...
In the memory of Westwood Studios, I link to a song, the only song I feel is suited to describe this tragic event...taps
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| Re: Renegade Oldbie Re-union [message #335551 is a reply to message #335457] |
Mon, 16 June 2008 07:38 |
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Oh how I hated being opposite you back in the day....
I'm still here and playing and would be interested, but have limited times to play.
CVN71HT2 is the current name I use.
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| Re: Renegade Oldbie Re-union [message #335628 is a reply to message #335608] |
Mon, 16 June 2008 19:11 |
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| ADM wrote on Mon, 16 June 2008 19:27 |
| DrasticDR wrote on Mon, 16 June 2008 06:37 |
Are you thinking of classic sniper server - shoot harvester to win? Ah.. the memories.
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It's all about the classics! The current state of Renegade sniping is bad, with all these modified maps/weapons and crappy rules about refilling, looping, pistol usage etc.
I remember having to charge into a GDI base with defences just to get that last kill to win the game, you never see that dedication anymore. 
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Exactly the way I feel about all the sniping servers these days. These looping rules are especially lame. Some servers even have maps modified with blockers which block the entrances, thereby denying access to the field in all of the maps (I assume this is what you were referring to). Beyond gay. It's also heavily enforced by many people who seem to think it's their given right in a game not to be attacked from behind, and that 'sniping' should be kept to tunnels; the same people, of course, who wall-hug for their kills most frequently. This was done before, true, but not nearly as much as it happens now. Some servers deny you your pistol. Some give you infinite ammo. Some give you both. all of them deny your timed c4, and you aren't ever allowed to use raveshaw or PIC sydney anymore (ahh, the memories!). Every server is a lame, frustrating repetition of one another. There is none of the sniping satisfaction that could once be had. Wall-hugging lag plays a big part in this, as do the dictatorship-esque rules and modifications which force these alterations on all of the players. I believe the only productive alterations are the ones which deny your ability to buy beacons, non-sniper chars and destroy buildings. Everything else should be fair game in sniping-mode renegade. My observation of what has happened in ths history of the game is that these productive alterations were implemented, and at the time, were a major breakthrough in preventing n00bs from messing up sniper matches. I them believe that people began forming popular conventional playing styles that they wished other people would abide by. These were in turn turned into rules, and modifications got made barring pistols, timed c4, field sniping, looping, etc. It's turned into something which only vaguely resembles how sniping used to be. Perhaps unintentionally, I'll give the modders that.
Furthermore, I disagree with other people who say we don't need another sniping server. I'm an old school sniper, not well known, but I have been around the block, and played in the best servers back in the day, since christmas 2002. Crimson's sniper server with 8 players was an absolute classic, and I remember that you'd have to fight for a slot in it. The sniping was fun and satisfying, even when n00bs came into the game and tried to destroy buildings, because you'd have fun killing them. I'd be all for an old-school sniping server. I think we need one.
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| Re: Renegade Oldbie Re-union [message #335641 is a reply to message #335628] |
Mon, 16 June 2008 23:59 |
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| flyingfox wrote on Tue, 17 June 2008 04:11 |
| ADM wrote on Mon, 16 June 2008 19:27 |
| DrasticDR wrote on Mon, 16 June 2008 06:37 |
Are you thinking of classic sniper server - shoot harvester to win? Ah.. the memories.
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It's all about the classics! The current state of Renegade sniping is bad, with all these modified maps/weapons and crappy rules about refilling, looping, pistol usage etc.
I remember having to charge into a GDI base with defences just to get that last kill to win the game, you never see that dedication anymore.
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Exactly the way I feel about all the sniping servers these days. These looping rules are especially lame. Some servers even have maps modified with blockers which block the entrances, thereby denying access to the field in all of the maps (I assume this is what you were referring to). Beyond gay. It's also heavily enforced by many people who seem to think it's their given right in a game not to be attacked from behind, and that 'sniping' should be kept to tunnels; the same people, of course, who wall-hug for their kills most frequently. This was done before, true, but not nearly as much as it happens now. Some servers deny you your pistol. Some give you infinite ammo. Some give you both. all of them deny your timed c4, and you aren't ever allowed to use raveshaw or PIC sydney anymore (ahh, the memories!). Every server is a lame, frustrating repetition of one another. There is none of the sniping satisfaction that could once be had. Wall-hugging lag plays a big part in this, as do the dictatorship-esque rules and modifications which force these alterations on all of the players. I believe the only productive alterations are the ones which deny your ability to buy beacons, non-sniper chars and destroy buildings. Everything else should be fair game in sniping-mode renegade. My observation of what has happened in ths history of the game is that these productive alterations were implemented, and at the time, were a major breakthrough in preventing n00bs from messing up sniper matches. I them believe that people began forming popular conventional playing styles that they wished other people would abide by. These were in turn turned into rules, and modifications got made barring pistols, timed c4, field sniping, looping, etc. It's turned into something which only vaguely resembles how sniping used to be. Perhaps unintentionally, I'll give the modders that.
Furthermore, I disagree with other people who say we don't need another sniping server. I'm an old school sniper, not well known, but I have been around the block, and played in the best servers back in the day, since christmas 2002. Crimson's sniper server with 8 players was an absolute classic, and I remember that you'd have to fight for a slot in it. The sniping was fun and satisfying, even when n00bs came into the game and tried to destroy buildings, because you'd have fun killing them. I'd be all for an old-school sniping server. I think we need one.
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KOSs2 - BI snipe server, xwis only, on a0000000c. You can't use c4 and can't destroy buildings but all the rest is classic.
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: Renegade Oldbie Re-union [message #335645 is a reply to message #335457] |
Tue, 17 June 2008 01:27 |
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Goztow
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It's in the nature of people to miss "the old days". The brain often only remembers good things and supresses bad things. Allthough me as well, I do miss the times where you had to fight for a place in the server because of the huge number of players... I think a lot of things are objectively better now than before, though. That being said: ideally we would have AND all improovements (anti cheat, regulators, ...) AND the amount of players we had back then.
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: Renegade Oldbie Re-union [message #335664 is a reply to message #335457] |
Tue, 17 June 2008 07:39 |
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Kingdud
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See, I am personally one who thinks that a "sniper server", while fun for relaxing and enjoying sniping, is NOT where you go to practice sniping. I'm a combat sniper. If I get squished or shot by a tank/vehicle because I was out of position on the battlefield, oh well. I screwed up.
For me, being a good sniper is about being a "sneaking bastard" (see: Clear and Present Danger). I need to make kills, be in danger from not just other snipers, but the battle around me.
If I can snipe and generate more points than the MRLS point-whoreing the ref...I'm doing well. But that's me...and I'm weird.
-Kingdud
"The object of war is not to die for your country, it's to make the other bas**** die for his." -Patton
WOL: Kingdud
Clan: None...
In the memory of Westwood Studios, I link to a song, the only song I feel is suited to describe this tragic event...taps
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