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Hello All,

I can't tell how long it's been since the last time I've logged into Renegade. I can still remember the countdown for its launch back in 2002. I can remember being in a clan [HSK] ("Head Shot Kill" for those wondering) For all those who played back then, you might have known someone by AirCraftKiller I think his name was (And how much of a douche he was, in my opinion at least Smile ).

I believe he was the one that probably kicked off this community run game with his map being included in an official patch. But I'm confused on who is controlling the game. So, EA bought it from Westwood, so are EA Devs moderating gameplay and things like that? If not, where did RenGuard come from? How is it being supported? Is it coming from the goodness of a group of people's hearts?

EA is getting money from the people that buy the game or pack of games that renegade comes with. I'm assuming the people that run and control RenGuard are not associated with EA so where is their income? What is their motivation to keep this game alive, other then being a great game it is.

In regards to Renegade X; This modded version of Renegade looks spectacular! I can't believe this isn't going to be on the shelves as an expansion pack. I would pay $40 easily to have the previewed version of renegade X on my computer. I may be missing a lot of information here but, I don't understand why the people that created RenGuard and Renegade X don't have a public company they are based from, and why they're not making other games and selling it.

How long will renegade be upgraded? I just happened to stumble upon this gold mine called Renegade X. What will be done to bring the Renegade community back? I'm excited to see whats in store for Renegade. I thought westwood made a huge mistake by letting EA take it. Renegade always had potential and I'm glad a group of people are exploiting that.

So what can i expect? I love the renegade style of gameplay, is Renegade X the crowning glory and the end all to graphical overhaul to this game? Or is this just the beginning of a long and exciting journey to bring back the glory and thrill of Renegade?


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Re: What is Renegade? [message #331056 is a reply to message #331053] Sun, 18 May 2008 15:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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TestGun wrote on Sun, 18 May 2008 16:47

you might have known someone by AirCraftKiller I think his name was (And how much of a douche he was, in my opinion at least Smile ).
He's still around.

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But I'm confused on who is controlling the game. So, EA bought it from Westwood, so are EA Devs moderating gameplay and things like that? If not, where did RenGuard come from? How is it being supported? Is it coming from the goodness of a group of people's hearts?

Actually, EA's had control over Renegade since they acquired Westwood beforehand. They liquidated the company since then. For online play, EA isn't much involved; they handed over control of the master servers to the Strike-Team with "XWIS". Basically, it's just WOL, but headed by a third party and it has some... quirks.

RenGuard was developed by Blackhand Studios, another third party. Unfortunately, RenGuard as is is pretty crippled and considered useless by many. A new version is apparently in the works by Sir_Kane, someone as influential on Renegade as you remember Aircraftkiller to have been. Yes, RenGuard is the product of making Renegade a better experience; no compensation other than donations to Blackhand Studios is received.

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EA is getting money from the people that buy the game or pack of games that renegade comes with. I'm assuming the people that run and control RenGuard are not associated with EA so where is their income? What is their motivation to keep this game alive, other then being a great game it is.

As I said above, the only income is from donations given by the community. The motivation for keeping Renegade alive is because it's a great game.

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In regards to Renegade X; This modded version of Renegade looks spectacular! I can't believe this isn't going to be on the shelves as an expansion pack. I would pay $40 easily to have the previewed version of renegade X on my computer. I may be missing a lot of information here but, I don't understand why the people that created RenGuard and Renegade X don't have a public company they are based from, and why they're not making other games and selling it.

Renegade X is actually an Unreal Tournament 3 mod. As for having a public company, I'm not sure how that would work; EA owns the intellectual property.

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How long will renegade be upgraded? I just happened to stumble upon this gold mine called Renegade X. What will be done to bring the Renegade community back? I'm excited to see whats in store for Renegade. I thought westwood made a huge mistake by letting EA take it. Renegade always had potential and I'm glad a group of people are exploiting that.

The coders in the community are constantly figuring out ways to tinker with Renegade. Just take a look through the forums, and you can find all sorts of goodies they've accomplished. The community is sustaining itself constantly; the interest in the game is always bringing members back to check up on things and even coordinate clan wars and such. Mods such as Red Alert: A Path Beyond and C&C Reborn have brought new life to the game and have attracted thousands who haven't even heard of Renegade to join in.

Also, it was Virgin Interactive who let Westwood fall into EA's hands. Westwood was just caught in the middle of it all.

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So what can i expect? I love the renegade style of gameplay, is Renegade X the crowning glory and the end all to graphical overhaul to this game? Or is this just the beginning of a long and exciting journey to bring back the glory and thrill of Renegade?

Renegade X is definitely trying to capture the intense interest Renegade has sparked in the community and bring it up to speed with another, recent engine. I honestly can't wait for it to be released.


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Re: What is Renegade? [message #331057 is a reply to message #331053] Sun, 18 May 2008 15:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renegade is awesome, yes.

Renegade X is a mod for Unreal Tournament, a completely different game though. Yeah, it's a graphical overhaul but it's not for Renegade.


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Re: What is Renegade? [message #331060 is a reply to message #331057] Sun, 18 May 2008 15:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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u6795 wrote on Sun, 18 May 2008 18:13

Renegade is awesome, yes.

Renegade X is a mod for Unreal Tournament, a completely different game though. Yeah, it's a graphical overhaul but it's not for Renegade.


Oh, I didn't catch that part.

Will the UT3 mod's gameplay be like Renegade? For example, will winning the game be by destroying the enemy base or by placement of Ion/Nuke Beacon? I guess this next question is in regards to UT3 but, how many people can play in a server?


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Re: What is Renegade? [message #331063 is a reply to message #331060] Sun, 18 May 2008 15:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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TestGun wrote on Sun, 18 May 2008 18:20

u6795 wrote on Sun, 18 May 2008 18:13

Renegade is awesome, yes.

Renegade X is a mod for Unreal Tournament, a completely different game though. Yeah, it's a graphical overhaul but it's not for Renegade.


Oh, I didn't catch that part.

Will the UT3 mod's gameplay be like Renegade? For example, will winning the game be by destroying the enemy base or by placement of Ion/Nuke Beacon? I guess this next question is in regards to UT3 but, how many people can play in a server?


Yes, ALL aspects of Renegade will be carried over to Renegade X. The C&C Mode will be carried over. It will be just like Renegade but with the immense graphical updates.

I am not sure how many people can play in a server.


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Re: What is Renegade? [message #331082 is a reply to message #331053] Sun, 18 May 2008 19:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is Renegade:

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Re: What is Renegade? [message #331083 is a reply to message #331053] Sun, 18 May 2008 19:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I bought my ren discs at a garage sale for 1$ Big Ups

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Re: What is Renegade? [message #331084 is a reply to message #331082] Sun, 18 May 2008 19:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Canadacdn wrote on Sun, 18 May 2008 21:20

This is Renegade:



NO, THIS IS MADNESS!!!

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Re: What is Renegade? [message #331086 is a reply to message #331084] Sun, 18 May 2008 19:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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IronWarrior wrote on Sun, 18 May 2008 21:34

Canadacdn wrote on Sun, 18 May 2008 21:20

This is Renegade:



NO, THIS IS MADNESS!!!

This is SPARTA!?

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Re: What is Renegade? [message #331087 is a reply to message #331053] Sun, 18 May 2008 19:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sir_Kane, when is your new RenGuard coming out? Wink
Re: What is Renegade? [message #331112 is a reply to message #331053] Mon, 19 May 2008 00:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've never seen those disc designs before, perhaps they differ by continent.
Re: What is Renegade? [message #331114 is a reply to message #331112] Mon, 19 May 2008 00:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Xylaquin wrote on Mon, 19 May 2008 08:15

I've never seen those disc designs before, perhaps they differ by continent.


They came with the original game, as a standalone back in 2002.

I have 2 copys of disk 2, but none of disk 1 as the crap plastic EA used to make CD's back then caused both disk 1's to shatter in my disk drive...
Re: What is Renegade? [message #331122 is a reply to message #331114] Mon, 19 May 2008 01:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: What is Renegade? [message #331137 is a reply to message #331053] Mon, 19 May 2008 04:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There must be varied designs because I got this on launch day in the UK

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Re: What is Renegade? [message #331138 is a reply to message #331053] Mon, 19 May 2008 04:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Those CD's turn any Renegader on

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Re: What is Renegade? [message #331141 is a reply to message #331137] Mon, 19 May 2008 04:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DrasticDR wrote on Mon, 19 May 2008 07:22

There must be varied designs because I got this on launch day in the UK

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2294/retailkj7.jpg




Same here I bought Renegade 4 times, and I always got that style of CD.


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DrasticDR wrote on Mon, 19 May 2008 06:22

There must be varied designs because I got this on launch day in the UK

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2294/retailkj7.jpg


Wow, those look way cooler than the North American CDs!
Re: What is Renegade? [message #331206 is a reply to message #331137] Mon, 19 May 2008 14:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DrasticDR wrote on Mon, 19 May 2008 07:22

There must be varied designs because I got this on launch day in the UK

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2294/retailkj7.jpg

This is hot.


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Re: What is Renegade? [message #331222 is a reply to message #331206] Mon, 19 May 2008 18:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've never seen those CDs before.

BTW, Renegade X website and forum: http://www.renegade2007.com/
Re: What is Renegade? [message #331225 is a reply to message #331053] Mon, 19 May 2008 19:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah except the new location for the forums are at http://www.renegade-x.com/Forums/index.php?

The redirect on the website needs to be updated.


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Yea.... that would explain a lot of things. Thumbs Up
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