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I'm pretty well done with the debate, he just doesn't even try to make any points anymore and just assumes he is putting out these infoulable remarks.
"Well I won this because reason based on opinion here and that is stupid."
"Your just a Remark here so that means you lost."
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"My opinion about morals are words here so you lost again, rematch? You lost again! HAAHAHA"
I tore down your argument and you have yet to reply on what was said, you claim you cant understand it or some shit which is just a cop-out. Replying to one of 4 of my rebuttals does not make you the winner and sure as hell is not decided by either of the people in the debate.
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| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 09:20 |
I'm pretty well done with the debate, he just doesn't even try to make any points anymore and just assumes he is putting out these infoulable remarks.
"Well I won this because reason based on opinion here and that is stupid."
"Your just a Remark here so that means you lost."
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"My opinion about morals are words here so you lost again, rematch? You lost again! HAAHAHA"
I tore down your argument and you have yet to reply on what was said, you claim you cant understand it or some shit which is just a cop-out. Replying to one of 4 of my rebuttals does not make you the winner and sure as hell is not decided by either of the people in the debate.
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it's sad you can't see how catastrophically you've contradicted yourself here. It's also plainly obvious you can't refute a damn thing I've said, but you're too ignorant to come anywhere near accepting it so you just spew out this nonsense ^^
EA's actions > your actions, and EA > you, get over it... either do something HELPFUL for the community for a change or just steer away from their games. The fact you're intent on doing neither frankly shows everybody what a self-righteous, obsessed little geek you are and the fact you're outright lying when you try to claim you want any of these C&C3 games to actually succeed... the truth is that's the absolute last thing you want.
btw this is just hilarious:
| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 09:20 |
I tore down your argument and you have yet to reply on what was said
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rofl... not only is that something you just pulled out of your ass, but if you were saying it about YOURSELF you'd finally be right about something. guess you're not just a thief and a liar, you're also a hypocrite.
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I was replying to that. Or are you writing a game as big as CnC3 and keeping it up to date?
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along those lines, yes
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Who cares? It's nothing to do with Renegade
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| Re: Do You Like E.A. Games?. I Think. [message #327077 is a reply to message #326325] |
Mon, 21 April 2008 13:00 |
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Section 1:
I would like you to point out the contradiction here other than "you don't get to pick who is the winner because you are in the debate" etc. Thats just the way it is, deal with it.
So for a rebuttal you went ahead and did exactly what I said you were doing in every post you make. Advance your argument absolutely none and filled it in with more of your person opinion crap.
"you try to claim you want any of these C&C3 games to actually succeed"
Err...I would like to see anything even remotely like that being said by me.. I have said the opposite since post 1. Do you even read these anymore or do you just post the same comment but worded differently?
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I refuted the hell out of what you said in a 4 section post on page 4....you replied to the first section and ignored everything else.
That fact of the matter is that you apparently cant handle what is going on here. You attack me and not the subject, you don't reply to 70% of things I say and your argument has widdled down to just insults and the same comments over and over.
EDIT: If you care so much create a poll, you stopped debating about 3 post ago and there is no sign of a change.
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Mon, 21 April 2008 13:11 |
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| renalpha wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 15:10 |
all your pointless discussions about games why dont you guys just grow up or something?
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Everthing is pointless...our lives are all pointless. Our existence is pointless. We are like dirt.
The post you just made is pointless...this post is pointless as well.
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| renalpha wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 16:10 |
all your pointless discussions about games why dont you guys just grow up or something?
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Oh I agree, I was in this for the debate more than the topic.
EDIT: Well the fact that it was on EA Games didn't hurt 
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| roshambo wrote |
Then nor did your statment, but you still said it.
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that's because the subject at hand isn't renegade.
| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 15:00 |
I would like you to point out the contradiction here
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sure
first you accuse me of doing this:
he just doesn't even try to make any points anymore and just assumes he is putting out these infoulable remarks.
"Well I won this because reason based on opinion here and that is stupid."
"Your just a Remark here so that means you lost."
"My opinion about morals are words here so you lost again, rematch? You lost again! HAAHAHA"
which is, of course, complete bullshit.
Then you do EXACTLY THE SAME YOURSELF!
I tore down your argument and you have yet to reply on what was said, you claim you cant understand it or some shit which is just a cop-out.
| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 15:00 |
So for a rebuttal you went ahead and did exactly what I said you were doing in every post you make. Advance your argument absolutely none and filled it in with more of your person opinion crap.
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again, complete nonsense, has no relation whatsoever to anything I've said... you're just spewing this crap to make yourself feel better about the fact you can't refute my arguments.
| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 15:00 |
"you try to claim you want any of these C&C3 games to actually succeed"
Err...I would like to see anything even remotely like that being said by me.. I have said the opposite since post 1.
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ah, but you've pretended your intentions are noble, evil for good reasons. Are you finally realising what everyone else can see about you; that your entire motivations are bullshit, selfish and asinine?
| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 15:00 |
I refuted the hell out of what you said in a 4 section post on page 4....you replied to the first section and ignored everything else.
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I replied to the only thing worth replying to... the rest was some garbage about your mother claiming disability or something, as if I cared and as if it was remotely relevant. You didn't refute a damn thing, you just changed the subject because you COULDN'T refute it... there's a difference.
| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 15:00 |
That fact of the matter is that you apparently cant handle what is going on here. You attack me and not the subject
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another prime example of your indescribable hypocrisy... your first reply to me was LOL YOU ARE OF NO IMPORTANCE when I hadn't even insulted you at all. Seriously... just stop humiliating yourself... you're a liar, you're a thief and you're a colossal hypocrite, and the gaming world would be a better place if you knew where your front door was. You're on the same level as cyberpunk and 0x90.
Aside from that, you're pathetic at debating because every insult you've tried to throw at me has been utterly false, but it'd be true if were applied to you... such a wretched little hypocrite. Go make some friends and get a real hobby instead of trying to ruin computer games... jeez, what a sad way to live.
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Section 1:
"Then you do EXACTLY THE SAME YOURSELF!"
That sentence you picked out is nothing like what your doing.
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Nonsense in the fact that its dead on and how could you even try to claim otherwise? All you say is personal opinion...again, it refuted your stand but you refuse to face any of it.
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Again, for the last time...NO I DIDN'T. Stop putting not just words but entire sentences and morals into my post. Nothing like this was said, stop inventing stuff. As for peoples opinions, those are theirs to make...so far I've seen more post in my favor than yours.
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"or something" If you actually bothered to read you would see that I was refuting your main points of argument. You know...the whole point to this thing.
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We were not debating at that time and I guess the word "dipshit" is a brotherly term where you are? Also "WAH WAAAH THEY ONLY WANT MONEY" seems kinda like an insult...especially since I never said those words but my comments could have been taken that way.
Everything else is just trying to get you to actually talk some facts and not opinions.
"be a better place if you knew where your front door was"
I think I could find it...
As for the rest of you, see attachment.
"you're pathetic at debating because every insult you've tried to throw at me has been utterly false"
Wow, you cant be serious. This whole time I've tried not to insult you at all and stick on subject. I think the last thing i said was "little mind" and even that was over the line for what I try to go for. BTW in a debate you attack the subject, not the debater.
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| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 15:52 |
"Then you do EXACTLY THE SAME YOURSELF!"
That sentence you picked out is nothing like what your doing.
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you're finally right about something, it's nothing like anything I did. it is something like you CLAIMED I was doing...
"he just doesn't even try to make any points anymore and just assumes he is putting out these infoulable remarks."
"I tore down your argument and you have yet to reply on what was said, you claim you cant understand it or some shit which is just a cop-out."
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| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 15:52 |
Nonsense in the fact that its dead on and how could you even try to claim otherwise?
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what are you even replying to here?
| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 15:52 |
All you say is personal opinion...again, it refuted your stand but you refuse to face any of it.
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^^ this is pure idiocy, plain and simple... you've yet to refute a single one of my arguments, you just think you have by labelling them "opinions"
| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 15:52 |
"or something" If you actually bothered to read you would see that I was refuting your main points of argument. You know...the whole point to this thing.
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rofl, you really are thick... how does explaining your mother's quest for disability disprove the fact you're wrong to attacking a company just because you don't like a couple of their products? Are you trying to be stupid or does it come naturally?
| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 15:52 |
Everything else is just trying to get you to actually talk some facts and not opinions.
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let me repeat some facts, facts you couldn't refute but are too arrogant and downright stupid to accept:
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because as I said right at the start and has yet to be refuted...
stealing games < making games some people don't like
actively attacking a company just because you don't like their products < making games some people don't like
There's NOTHING you can say that will change these facts
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| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 15:52 |
"be a better place if you knew where your front door was"
I think I could find it...
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why don't you use it and get a real hobby instead of this pathetic little mission of yours? Seriously, can't you see what a sad way to live that is? Holy shit...
once again, let me repeat something (another thing you couldn't refute)
if you don't like a company's products, don't buy them. Or hell, try to help them somehow. Either of the above would be what a sensible person would do... you're so full of shit that the only course of action you can think of is attacking the company like the selfish, unprincipled failure you are.
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| Re: Do You Like E.A. Games?. I Think. [message #327109 is a reply to message #326325] |
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To comment on the entire top of your post: "Actually read my replies." It's hard to say that I haven't refuted anything when you actively admit that you didn't read anything. Of course I didn't refute anything in your eyes because you didn't read it.
"stealing games < making games some people don't like
actively attacking a company just because you don't like their products < making games some people don't like"
How is this not opinion?
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| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 16:21 |
To comment on the entire top of your post: "Actually read my replies." It's hard to say that I haven't refuted anything when you actively admit that you didn't read anything. Of course I didn't refute anything in your eyes because you didn't read it.
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what the fuck?
how stupid are you? where do you get this nonsense from?
| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 16:21 |
"stealing games < making games some people don't like
actively attacking a company just because you don't like their products < making games some people don't like"
How is this not opinion?
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how is it not fact? Just because you're too stupid to see it doesn't make it opinion. If you had any principles whatsoever you'd have no problem understanding it.
saying "stealing games < making games you don't like" is like saying 2+2=4, it's not even debatable... aside from anything else, you've demonstrated that in your failure to refute it, just like your failure to refute the rest of my arguments, just like y your entire mission to attack a company just because you don't like a few of their products is a failure...
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| Re: Do You Like E.A. Games?. I Think. [message #327116 is a reply to message #326325] |
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If you want to make change within the company, perhaps look at becoming a shareholder. Since you feel strongly about the company, you'd be able to get into shareholder meetings, and voice your opinions that way.
Sure, it costs money, but so does purchasing video games.
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The only game where everyone competes to be an e-janitor.
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| Re: Do You Like E.A. Games?. I Think. [message #327119 is a reply to message #327111] |
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Section 1:
Guess what? READ and the answer shall show itself to you.
Section 2:
This is opinion...I would say it slower but you just wouldn't read it again.
"saying "stealing games < making games you don't like" is like saying 2+2=4, it's not even debatable..."
See Section 2.
"failure to refute the rest of my arguments"
See Section 1.
Even still, "stealing games < making games you don't like" is just your twist on it. I could do that same:
Rising up against a company that makes shitty products and wants to take over the whole industry > Making a shitty product and trying to take over the entire industry.
Wow, same actions but a different spin...amazing how that works.
Buying EA's games for years and deciding to do something about the lack of quality > Buying whatever pile of crap they put out without question.
Nice...that spin worked too...lets try another...
Lifelong franchise flushed to hell by a company < People doing something about it.
That one was nice, flipped the sign and everything.
Company that won't modernize and doesn't listen to the fan base < anything on the face of the earth.
Ok well that last one should of really just been "= EA Games".
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| Re: Do You Like E.A. Games?. I Think. [message #327120 is a reply to message #327116] |
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 17:39 |
If you want to make change within the company, perhaps look at becoming a shareholder. Since you feel strongly about the company, you'd be able to get into shareholder meetings, and voice your opinions that way.
Sure, it costs money, but so does purchasing video games.
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$50's versus thousands really, would if I could but so far doesn't look like its in the paperwork.
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| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 16:46 |
$50's versus thousands really, would if I could but so far doesn't look like its in the paperwork.
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Well, it's a start. Many grassroots corporate overhauls begin in shareholder meetings.
You feel strongly about the company, so I think that you ought to consider purchasing one stock, so you get the opportunity to be able to participate a little more in the company. Even if you make a complaint on a board like this, mentioning that you are a shareholder should prick the ears of any company worth its salt. The fact that you bought into the company shows that you are not just some 'gaming kiddie' with an axe to grind, but someone who has money, and can actually grasp some concepts of 'business' .
Plus, you'll more than likely find other shareholders that have similar feelings as you do, and that's how it all starts. Small bloc's of dissent slowly grow into a major thorn in a company's side if they are left unchecked.
It'll certainly be more productive than downloading illegal copies, and it can be kind of fun too. 
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 18:05 |
| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 16:46 |
$50's versus thousands really, would if I could but so far doesn't look like its in the paperwork.
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Well, it's a start. Many grassroots corporate overhauls begin in shareholder meetings.
You feel strongly about the company, so I think that you ought to consider purchasing one stock, so you get the opportunity to be able to participate a little more in the company. Even if you make a complaint on a board like this, mentioning that you are a shareholder should prick the ears of any company worth its salt. The fact that you bought into the company shows that you are not just some 'gaming kiddie' with an axe to grind, but someone who has money, and can actually grasp some concepts of 'business' .
Plus, you'll more than likely find other shareholders that have similar feelings as you do, and that's how it all starts. Small bloc's of dissent slowly grow into a major thorn in a company's side if they are left unchecked.
It'll certainly be more productive than downloading illegal copies, and it can be kind of fun too.
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| Spoony wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 03:11 |
| Cabal8616 wrote on Sun, 20 April 2008 17:27 |
I don't even think EA tests C&C3 ATALL. Seriously, if they did, they wouldn't need the ridiculous amounts of patches they had to put in it.
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I agree with this, but only to an extent. Because EA doesn't have beta testers.
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this is just plain ignorant... from C&C3 onward EA genuinely made the effort to get the balance+bugs situation right (yes, I'm aware more than anybody here that this wasn't true before C&C3), but there are bound to be some that don't get sorted... trust me on this. I'm guessing neither of you have made a game the size of C&C3 or a complete patch for it?
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No, you misunderstood what I said.
I specifically said BETA testers. They have a Q&A department that tests for bugs every patch. Whenever a new bug or exploit is found in C&C3, everyone gets pissed off at them, not EA. Did YOU know that?
What I meant by Beta testers is that C&C3 didn't have a beta, it had a community summit and they chose a select few people who they thought were "pros" and let them answer all the big choices in the game. But as it turns out they were also people who enjoyed Generals and still played it. It is their fault that the radar in C&C3 is on the MCV and not the Command Post. EA said so themselves. Not to mention various other things that many of the fans don't like.
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| r4zor wrote: |
What I meant by Beta testers is that C&C3 didn't have a beta, it had a community summit and they chose a select few people who they thought were "pros" and let them answer all the big choices in the game. But as it turns out they were also people who enjoyed Generals and still played it. It is their fault that the radar in C&C3 is on the MCV and not the Command Post.
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it's also their "fault" that the game is more balanced than every single westwood C&C... sure it's not perfect, but it's gold compared to, for example, RA2 or C&C95
| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 23:44 |
Section 1:
Guess what? READ and the answer shall show itself to you.
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read what? highlight the post you're trying to draw attention to...
| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 23:44 |
This is opinion...I would say it slower but you just wouldn't read it again.
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will you please stop lying? When did I not read your posts? I've already asked you to clarify this point; you've made it pretty clear that you couldn't because it was garbage to begin with.
| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 23:44 |
"failure to refute the rest of my arguments"
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we've already established that not only are you dead wrong here, you're also a chronic hypocrite, so I'm not sure why you keep repeating this nonsense... you're starting to remind me of the rhino in 300 that gets killed by Leonidas' thrown spear... it's been well and truly pwned but it rampages on for a while blissfully unaware of how dead it is. It'll sink in eventually
| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 23:44 |
Even still, "stealing games < making games you don't like" is just your twist on it. I could do that same:
Rising up against a company that makes shitty products and wants to take over the whole industry > Making a shitty product and trying to take over the entire industry.
Wow, same actions but a different spin...amazing how that works.
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it works as well as the rest of your "arguments"; in other words it's a complete failure.
let's examine this:
"stealing games < making games you don't like"
here goes.
the gripe against EA is "making games you don't like". well, we live in a free capitalist society (I know that probably pisses you off no end, but unfortunately for you, you're stuck with it) which means that if a company makes products you think suck, here's what you can do:
JUST DON'T BUY THEM ANYMORE
This is not only completely legal, and more to the point it actually MAKES SENSE (which probably explains why it hasn't occurred to you) and it's also to the detriment of the company. If you were right about EA, everyone would do the same... and EA would suffer financially. Then they'd have to rethink. This is the miracle of the market... then you get selfish, self-righteous, ignorant, hypocritical pricks like you who think you're above these pesky laws (and principles).
EA isn't doing anything morally or legally wrong. You are. EA > you. I guarantee more people like EA games than have ever even met you, let alone like you. What's your excuse for that, I wonder?
| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 23:44 |
Rising up against a company that makes shitty products and wants to take over the whole industry > Making a shitty product and trying to take over the entire industry.
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your choice of words "rising up against" confirms a suspicion that has been growing in my mind... do you happen to be wearing a Che Guevara shirt?
| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 23:44 |
Buying EA's games for years and deciding to do something about the lack of quality > Buying whatever pile of crap they put out without question.
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the difference between me and you is I actually AM doing something about the quality. You've just convinced yourself you are so you can feel better about stealing the games you're probably too poor to buy.
| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 23:44 |
Lifelong franchise flushed to hell by a company < People doing something about it.
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who the FUCK are you to say whether the franchise has been "flushed to hell"? this is never gonna be anything other than opinion... but judging by the fact you think "stealing games < making products you don't like" is an opinion rather than a fact, I'm not entirely convinced you understand the word's meaning. Maybe you should steal a dictionary.
| Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 23:44 |
Company that won't modernize and doesn't listen to the fan base < anything on the face of the earth.
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1. we've already established that EA want to sell lots of their games, so they do listen to the fan base. You're just suffering from RCS - the "my opinion means more than everybody else's" one.
2. you're a perfect example of why they probably shouldn't listen to this community anyway. Look at yourself - you openly admit to stealing EA games, trying to attack the company etc... with pricks like you about, it's no wonder Renegade isn't better supported. If I worked for EA and checked this forum, and saw geeks like you stealing from the company I worked for, I'd just tell you to go fuck yourself... either that or pursue legal action.
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