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Hatred among the forums [message #31714] Wed, 16 July 2003 19:02 Go to next message
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There are many,many, FLAMED out topics

I noticed the main people doing this are : ACK,boatbomber,havocman,Sir Phoenixx

Flame War Incedent #1: http://www.n00bstories.com/renforums/viewtopic.php?t=6235

It all started with ack and his negitivity.He can never be positive about any mod or model thats not his making.

Flame War Incedent #2:
http://www.n00bstories.com/renforums/viewtopic.php?t=6249


he does it agin.


Flame War Incedent #3: http://www.n00bstories.com/renforums/viewtopic.php?t=6252

who cares wheather its MOD mOD mod or whatever?


Quote:

boatbomber:n00b

Learn how to fucking spell or don't come posting here.



did he bother to ask if eglish was his original languge?no.

Quote:

Headhunter:Im from Poland you idi..t and im not good with english. I want only help, and you give me this. Now i know why Bush is so stupid(sorry everone who is hurt this mesage)





There are many more than just that(just search for posts by ack and you'll find them)



there is way to much hatred among theese forums, and you wonder why renegade is dieing?You people are running off all the new users who want to learn and enjoy the game.But instead of help you reply to post with spelling and grammical corrections and "n00b".


I quit because of this exact reason i come back a year later and see things are the same old way

[Updated on: Wed, 16 July 2003 19:04]


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Hatred among the forums [message #31715] Wed, 16 July 2003 19:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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HEY! Why Do you Have to Pull me into this.


FUCK YOU ALL. Im Leaveing.
Hatred among the forums [message #31716] Wed, 16 July 2003 19:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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im not pullign you into this you pulled your self into it by starte dflamed topics


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Hatred among the forums [message #31717] Wed, 16 July 2003 19:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sure whatever. more spam.


FUCK YOU ALL. Im Leaveing.
Hatred among the forums [message #31719] Wed, 16 July 2003 19:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Havocman

Sure whatever. more spam.


you just done it.

dont like the thread dont reply

this is not spam


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Hatred among the forums [message #31720] Wed, 16 July 2003 19:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well fine. Maybe, alot of people have been Unezy now. i know i have. a map we have been working on has been EXTREMLY Pre-matured Released. It's conditon was Horable. so that got me pissed of. Cus he never said he was gonna release it. Ack is just Pointing out stuff. K. later.


FUCK YOU ALL. Im Leaveing.
Hatred among the forums [message #31722] Wed, 16 July 2003 19:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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somone makes a simple spelling mistake like "Teh" and he starts a flame war


i can understand somthing like "BTW you misspelled somthing"

but there isno need to get all drastic saying stuff like learn to speak english and all that


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Hatred among the forums [message #31726] Wed, 16 July 2003 19:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Hatred among the forums [message #31729] Wed, 16 July 2003 19:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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xSeth2k2x

There are many,many, FLAMED out topics

I noticed the main people doing this are : ACK,boatbomber,havocman,Sir Phoenixx

Lol... You're kidding right? Find more than one (or at least one) thread in which I STARTED flaming or attacking anyone. Simple involvment where I'm replying to someone else who is attacking or flaming me doesn't count [edit: defending someone in a thread doesn't count either].

xSeth2k2x


Flame War Incedent #1: http://www.n00bstories.com/renforums/viewtopic.php?t=6235

It all started with ack and his negitivity.He can never be positive about any mod or model thats not his making.


That topic was turned personal by you, and the flaming was started by CaptKurt. Find the topic "Back to Topic", read that. The only thing ACK did was express his opinion that there are already alot of tutorial sites and it would be almost pointless to make more, everyone automatically jumped him for posting in that thread, it wouldn't matter what he posted.

xSeth2k2x


Flame War Incedent #2:
http://www.n00bstories.com/renforums/viewtopic.php?t=6249


he does it agin.


Are you serious? Have you even read ACK's replies to that thread? Have you even read anything in that thread? CaptKurt posted that thread to mainly discredit and blame a "flame war" that he himself started on ACK.

xSeth2k2x

Flame War Incedent #3: http://www.n00bstories.com/renforums/viewtopic.php?t=6252

who cares wheather its MOD mOD mod or whatever?


lol... You obviously have no idea what a flame war is. Correcting someone's grammar and spelling do not equate to a "flame war".

xSeth2k2x


Quote:

boatbomber:n00b

Learn how to fucking spell or don't come posting here.



did he bother to ask if eglish was his original languge?no.

Quote:

Headhunter:Im from Poland you idi..t and im not good with english. I want only help, and you give me this. Now i know why Bush is so stupid(sorry everone who is hurt this mesage)


Actually, boatbomber deserves everything he gets and should be rediculed.


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Hatred among the forums [message #31740] Wed, 16 July 2003 20:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I can't put it better than SP. CaptKurt started most of those. I'm sorry if you get easily offended, but you have to understand ACK points things out, because he is the best at what he does.


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Hatred among the forums [message #31742] Wed, 16 July 2003 20:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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telling somone they need to go back to school and learn to read and write isnt exactly pointing out somthing i can recall multiple times on the old forums.

[Updated on: Wed, 16 July 2003 20:28]


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Hatred among the forums [message #31745] Wed, 16 July 2003 20:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Point me to where those words were said.


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Hatred among the forums [message #31747] Wed, 16 July 2003 20:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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on the original westwood forums


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Hatred among the forums [message #31765] Wed, 16 July 2003 22:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Give me a break.


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Hatred among the forums [message #31767] Wed, 16 July 2003 22:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I assume the neutral members are watching with interest heh Very Happy


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Hatred among the forums [message #31780] Thu, 17 July 2003 00:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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These forums are a lot less flame-y than when Westwood owned them.


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Hatred among the forums [message #31784] Thu, 17 July 2003 00:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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These forums are a lot less flame-y than when Westwood owned them.


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Hatred among the forums [message #31799] Thu, 17 July 2003 04:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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on the original westwood forums


If he had said that within the last year (There was like 40 pages, than the forums were cleaned and it went down to around 10) or so on the old forums it would still be on these forums. Remember, they transfered all of several of the forums to these forums a while ago.

And just because he was correcting grammar and spelling more harshly on the old forums, still doesn't equate to flaming.


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Hatred among the forums [message #31960] Thu, 17 July 2003 16:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crimson

These forums are a lot less flame-y than when Westwood owned them.


I miss Sukhoi too. Sad


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Re: Hatred among the forums [message #31964] Thu, 17 July 2003 17:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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xSeth2k2x

I quit because of this exact reason i come back a year later and see things are the same old way


Y'know, this is the same reason I quit too. Today someone asked me to come back. He said things have improved much, people are more friendly. now that I'm here visiting again I've realised nothing has changed and after reading some 30 threads around this forum I still dont wanna be here. It's not worth trying to mod Renegade for most of these ungratful little brats.
Keep it up guys, the community will be dead within the year.

What you need to learn to do is to stop flaming left, right and center. If someone makes somthing constructive for Renegade, even if they're just starting out, dont great it with "oh that looks shit" or "that's crap, you're a n00b aint ya". If ya keep going like that people just wont bother trying and you will have no new maps or mods and thats it. Dead Renegade.
Instead try suggesting improvments to the persons projects. The best examples I've seen were posted by Dante, for example:
Quote:

remember the engine is awesome, but don't waste all your poly's on moving objects, keep them for eyecandy rather than for vehicles, you can cut that model down to 900 polys and retain its detail through the skin.

here he's suggesting to put more effort into rationing out of polys and putting more detail into skins. This is good advice. Saying "oh, that's high poly, that's gonna lag the game" is not good advice, it's more like stating the obvious and is more likly to spark an argument.

One last thing I must say, stop flaming people because of their online grammar!! People make mistakes, people speek other languages, people may be 8 years old or may not have l337 7Yp1n6 5k1LL5 or whatever, DONT FLAME THEM FOR IT! It makes them feel bad and they probably wont come back! Moderators have a duty to keep posts like this off the forums!

boatbomber

n00b

Learn how to fucking spell or don't come posting here.


Dont get me wrong, I'm not flaming whoever moderates (if anyone does) these forums, but a little moderation of this place would improve it in an unprecidented scale. Moderators have the power to stop arguments when they're just starting by locking threads, or making the place better by deleting arguments that have taken place. A forum this size would take 1 moderator no more than half an hour each day to keep "clean and tidy".

Well, that is all. I can only hope someone with power notices this post and starts to improve this place instead of this post just disappearing into oblivion. It wont take much to make this forum a nice one to visit. But if it stays as it is, it's not the place I would wanna visit again. sorry.

-killakanz-


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Hatred among the forums [message #31972] Thu, 17 July 2003 18:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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xSeth2k2x

on the original westwood forums


If he had said that within the last year (There was like 40 pages, than the forums were cleaned and it went down to around 10) or so on the old forums it would still be on these forums. Remember, they transfered all of several of the forums to these forums a while ago.

And just because he was correcting grammar and spelling more harshly on the old forums, still doesn't equate to flaming.


you still havent replyed to my other statment.

is it right for him to tell somone to go back to school and learn to read and write?


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Hatred among the forums [message #31973] Thu, 17 July 2003 18:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, it is, because your stupidity should not be tolerated in the world.

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Hatred among the forums [message #31974] Thu, 17 July 2003 18:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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K... how many people have to keep telling us that the community will be gone in one year??! I've heard it from pretty much a month after the release of Renegade and it's just as annoying now.
Unless you can give an exact date, to the day, I think that anyone claiming the community will be dead should recieve an immediate ban from the forum.

As for this topic though... maybe I should print it off. I need to go to the toilet and I'm all out of paper. :rolleyes:


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Re: Hatred among the forums [message #31975] Thu, 17 July 2003 18:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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xSeth2k2x

I quit because of this exact reason i come back a year later and see things are the same old way


Y'know, this is the same reason I quit too. Today someone asked me to come back. He said things have improved much, people are more friendly. now that I'm here visiting again I've realised nothing has changed and after reading some 30 threads around this forum I still dont wanna be here. It's not worth trying to mod Renegade for most of these ungratful little brats.
Keep it up guys, the community will be dead within the year.

What you need to learn to do is to stop flaming left, right and center. If someone makes somthing constructive for Renegade, even if they're just starting out, dont great it with "oh that looks shit" or "that's crap, you're a n00b aint ya". If ya keep going like that people just wont bother trying and you will have no new maps or mods and thats it. Dead Renegade.
Instead try suggesting improvments to the persons projects. The best examples I've seen were posted by Dante, for example:
Quote:

remember the engine is awesome, but don't waste all your poly's on moving objects, keep them for eyecandy rather than for vehicles, you can cut that model down to 900 polys and retain its detail through the skin.

here he's suggesting to put more effort into rationing out of polys and putting more detail into skins. This is good advice. Saying "oh, that's high poly, that's gonna lag the game" is not good advice, it's more like stating the obvious and is more likly to spark an argument.

One last thing I must say, stop flaming people because of their online grammar!! People make mistakes, people speek other languages, people may be 8 years old or may not have l337 7Yp1n6 5k1LL5 or whatever, DONT FLAME THEM FOR IT! It makes them feel bad and they probably wont come back! Moderators have a duty to keep posts like this off the forums!

boatbomber

n00b

Learn how to fucking spell or don't come posting here.


Dont get me wrong, I'm not flaming whoever moderates (if anyone does) these forums, but a little moderation of this place would improve it in an unprecidented scale. Moderators have the power to stop arguments when they're just starting by locking threads, or making the place better by deleting arguments that have taken place. A forum this size would take 1 moderator no more than half an hour each day to keep "clean and tidy".

Well, that is all. I can only hope someone with power notices this post and starts to improve this place instead of this post just disappearing into oblivion. It wont take much to make this forum a nice one to visit. But if it stays as it is, it's not the place I would wanna visit again. sorry.

-killakanz-

Well said.
Hatred among the forums [message #31976] Thu, 17 July 2003 18:22 Go to previous message
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Yes, it is, because your stupidity should not be tolerated in the world.

As for you, killakanz, good riddance. You made nothing, you did nothing, and you left. Don't come back again, please. Spare us all your tremendously heart-breaking accounts of how we all mentally assfucked you.


Shows how much you know. I helped lots of people and I still do. Just because I released just 1 map (bet you didn't know about that, I wonder if it's still on cnchq.de after all this time...) doesn't mean I did nothing.
I guess your post just goes to prove another point. People can be helpfull in a community, not just release as much stuff as poss, but you wouldn't know that.


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