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| Re: cnc3 is the best CNC game to date [message #299288 is a reply to message #299286] |
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it's better than TS or RA2 imho.. probably not RA, and C&C95 gets a free pass anyway
generals and ZH are way, way better than most people here give them credit for. if people thought westwood made it rather than EA, they'd see it for how good it is.
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| Re: cnc3 is the best CNC game to date [message #299295 is a reply to message #299288] |
Mon, 26 November 2007 23:59 |
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| Spoony wrote on Tue, 27 November 2007 00:53 |
it's better than TS or RA2 imho.. probably not RA, and C&C95 gets a free pass anyway
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I beg to differ.
RA2 was superiorly better, Game play wise, for the most part.
More than 3 factions, Awesome super weapons, Vehicle and infantry selection was sexy, too.
My only complaint against RA2 was that the Single player was short (On the Soviet's disk, anyway.)
I have a few complaints against TS, But I blame EA for one of them (TS crashes like a bitch)
Presence is a curious thing, if you think you need to prove it... you probably never had it in the first place.
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| Re: cnc3 is the best CNC game to date [message #299300 is a reply to message #299265] |
Tue, 27 November 2007 00:22 |
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RA2 had two factions and one greatly unbalanced one brought with the expansion. I don't count adding and removing one unit for a team a new faction.
How could you even like TS? Gah, you just have your crap blown up every 4 seconds from a seeker mine or missile. God forbid you don't feel like placing concrete all over the damn place and you don't have anywhere to build.
Time line:
Game Starts
13sec Missile launch detected
15Sec Rebuild Power plant
17Sec Spring noise indicating seeker mine
19Sec Rebuild Power plant
22Sec Harvester under attack (Says it for every shot taken, over and over)
25Sec Missile launch detected
27Sec Spring noise
29Sec Low power
30Sec Concrete, concrete, concrete
32Sec Missile launch detected
35Sec Driving to Walmart to return this pile of crap
37Sec Spring noise
RA1 was and still is the best RTS Westwood made.
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| Re: cnc3 is the best CNC game to date [message #299310 is a reply to message #299300] |
Tue, 27 November 2007 01:02 |
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| Oblivion165 wrote on Tue, 27 November 2007 01:22 |
RA2 had two factions and one greatly unbalanced one brought with the expansion. I don't count adding and removing one unit for a team a new faction.
How could you even like TS? Gah, you just have your crap blown up every 4 seconds from a seeker mine or missile. God forbid you don't feel like placing concrete all over the damn place and you don't have anywhere to build.
Time line:
Game Starts
13sec Missile launch detected
15Sec Rebuild Power plant
17Sec Spring noise indicating seeker mine
19Sec Rebuild Power plant
22Sec Harvester under attack (Says it for every shot taken, over and over)
25Sec Missile launch detected
27Sec Spring noise
29Sec Low power
30Sec Concrete, concrete, concrete
32Sec Missile launch detected
35Sec Driving to Walmart to return this pile of crap
37Sec Spring noise
RA1 was and still is the best RTS Westwood made.
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I agree with your TS rant, But RA2 had more teams to choose if you wanted to play online, you could choose the Brits, Americans, Germany, Russia, Libya, Iraq, France, and a few more.
Never played Yuri's Revenge sadly, So I'll just wait.
Presence is a curious thing, if you think you need to prove it... you probably never had it in the first place.
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| Re: cnc3 is the best CNC game to date [message #299344 is a reply to message #299314] |
Tue, 27 November 2007 06:52 |
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| Goztow wrote on Tue, 27 November 2007 02:25 |
C&C3 is simply a good RTS game. I don't think u can compare it with previous C&C RTS-games as there's been so much time between them. It's surely not my prefered one of all times but it's my prefered one of the moment  .
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It's just simply rock-paper-scissor balancing, Westwood changed the RTS world dramaticly with CNC95, and RA, as all the other RTS at the time (Warcraft 2, etc.) were all rock-paper-scissor, or...in the case of Warcraft 2, all the same units with difference graphics. So no, C&C 3 has it's good points, but there are more cons than pros.
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| Re: cnc3 is the best CNC game to date [message #299347 is a reply to message #299344] |
Tue, 27 November 2007 06:54 |
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Using how many factions RA2 has as a plus point is a little flawed, considering how ridiculously powerful Iraq is compared to all the others.
Awesome superweapons? Not necessarily a good thing.
Infantry? What's great about the infantry in RA2?
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| Re: cnc3 is the best CNC game to date [message #299348 is a reply to message #299347] |
Tue, 27 November 2007 06:56 |
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| Spoony wrote on Tue, 27 November 2007 07:54 |
Using how many factions RA2 has as a plus point is a little flawed, considering how ridiculously powerful Iraq is compared to all the others.
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Because of their DESOLATOR? A simple sniper can take them out, or if you want, anything thats armed with explosives.
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[19:16:48] <APBBR> @ryan3k: THE ENFIELD DEFIES THE LAWS OF PHYSICS BECAUSE THE BULLETS INSTANTLY HIT THEIR TARGETS LOL
[19:16:52] <APBBR> @ryan3k: CHRONO TECHNOLOGY IN TEH BULLETS
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[22:48]<APBBR> @V0LK0V: AOL COMING UR WAI K
[22:48] <APBBR> Host: Quitting due to Westwood Online connection loss.
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| Re: cnc3 is the best CNC game to date [message #299353 is a reply to message #299348] |
Tue, 27 November 2007 07:17 |
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have you ever played against a decent player using Iraq?
(I already know the answer simply by reading your post)
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| Re: cnc3 is the best CNC game to date [message #299355 is a reply to message #299353] |
Tue, 27 November 2007 07:24 |
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| Spoony wrote on Tue, 27 November 2007 15:17 |
have you ever played against a decent player using Iraq?
(I already know the answer simply by reading your post)
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LOL Iraq is simple PWNage! They own prism tanks and mirage tanks ^^.
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: cnc3 is the best CNC game to date [message #299359 is a reply to message #299300] |
Tue, 27 November 2007 07:37 |
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| Oblivion165 wrote on Tue, 27 November 2007 00:22 |
RA2 had two factions and one greatly unbalanced one brought with the expansion. I don't count adding and removing one unit for a team a new faction.
How could you even like TS? Gah, you just have your crap blown up every 4 seconds from a seeker mine or missile. God forbid you don't feel like placing concrete all over the damn place and you don't have anywhere to build.
Time line:
Game Starts
13sec Missile launch detected
15Sec Rebuild Power plant
17Sec Spring noise indicating seeker mine
19Sec Rebuild Power plant
22Sec Harvester under attack (Says it for every shot taken, over and over)
25Sec Missile launch detected
27Sec Spring noise
29Sec Low power
30Sec Concrete, concrete, concrete
32Sec Missile launch detected
35Sec Driving to Walmart to return this pile of crap
37Sec Spring noise
RA1 was and still is the best RTS Westwood made.
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I agree, I wish Westwood was still around, because if they were they probably have redone the net code for it by now just so we could still play it on-line. Maybe we would have also been able to get them to go back and redo how wall placement worked, so it would be more like RA2.
If you set the tech level back 1 on ts it should turn off all the super weapons.
Yuri's Revenge was slightly more fun, they added a few more units in and it allowed the allies to be even with the rest.
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| Re: cnc3 is the best CNC game to date [message #299417 is a reply to message #299265] |
Tue, 27 November 2007 14:05 |
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I see it as one of the best C&C games. EA or not... it is still one of my most favorite games.
My second favorite is TS, which is kind of tied with C&C3.(Ren is first, however under the C&C title. It obviously isn't my favorite C&C RTS) And I simply dislike the RA series... towards the fact of the concept of it. However I would love to see them tie RA and TD together... like they SHOULD be...
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