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| Re: EA Crysis Demo Released [message #293316 is a reply to message #293262] |
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| Oblivion165 wrote on Sun, 28 October 2007 02:01 |
The 8600GTS is the second highest card Nvidia makes. The 8800 is the next one up, it's hardly midrange.
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Besides, the 8600GTS is only 200 bucks (for the XFX 512MiB one even), so I don't see why one wouldn't SLI them to be able to run things like Crysis on high detail, and it would still be cheaper than a high-end 8800.
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| Re: EA Crysis Demo Released [message #293325 is a reply to message #292971] |
Sun, 28 October 2007 09:00 |
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I can play the game perfectly fine on Medium settings(27 average FPS).
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EDIT: That's just on XP, I haven't tried it on Vista yet, to see if there's a performance increase.
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| Re: EA Crysis Demo Released [message #293344 is a reply to message #293262] |
Sun, 28 October 2007 10:46 |
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| Oblivion165 wrote on Sun, 28 October 2007 04:01 |
| Renx wrote on Sun, 28 October 2007 03:28 |
| Oblivion165 wrote on Sat, 27 October 2007 04:00 |
| jonwil wrote on Sat, 27 October 2007 02:45 |
If EA DOES release another C&C FPS, it BETTER run on my near-new GeForce 7600GT...
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Well I have a GeForce 8600GTS 256mb and this game killed it. I could even play Bioshock on full everything but this game is insain! I was forced down to medium and no aa at all.
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Windows XP Professional wSP2 32-bit
GeForce 8600GTS 256mb
Core 2 DUO 2.33Ghz
4gb RAM
If your computer is any less than that you will likely not be able to play this game unless its at the lowest setting.
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Why would you buy a mid-range card expecting it to run anything above mid-range graphics settings? If you want to play on high buy a high-end card. It doesn't get much more simple than that.
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The 8600GTS is the second highest card Nvidia makes. The 8800 is the next one up, it's hardly midrange.
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The 8600 series is mid-range by definition. The card is made to target the mid-range market. That's the way it has always been... x800 series is high-end, x600 is mid-range, and x300 are budget(low-end) cards. Anything above, below, or inbetween are updated/modified cards.
Your mid-range card is performing exactly how it should in a game like Crysis. Expect similar results from newer games to come.
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| Re: EA Crysis Demo Released [message #293371 is a reply to message #292971] |
Sun, 28 October 2007 14:13 |
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Well duh, most games until Crysis were using engines made a year or more ago, and don't feature nearly as much new technology as CryEngine2 does. My 7900GT runs BioShock on max settings, big whoop, as good as the graphics are in bioshock they are nothing compared to Crysis and other games coming relatively soon.
It doesn't matter if you consider it mid-range or not, it simply just is a mid-range card. It uses a seperate GPU from the 8800 series designed to target the mid-range market. Just because it gets high FPS in games released within the last year doesn't make it highend, and certainly doesn't mean it will continue to achieve the same performance on newer games coming out. If you bought this card thinking otherwise then you were mistaken or misled.
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| Re: EA Crysis Demo Released [message #293373 is a reply to message #292971] |
Sun, 28 October 2007 14:19 |
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I can agree that it wont last forever and I see no comments of mine that suggested otherwise.
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The Crysis engine look decent enough but really its just slightly better looking than FarCry.
And by all games I mean all the demos of these 2008 games your talking about...TimeShift, Call of Duty 4 etc etc
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| Re: EA Crysis Demo Released [message #293374 is a reply to message #293316] |
Sun, 28 October 2007 14:20 |
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| Dave Anderson wrote on Sun, 28 October 2007 09:20 |
| Oblivion165 wrote on Sun, 28 October 2007 02:01 |
The 8600GTS is the second highest card Nvidia makes. The 8800 is the next one up, it's hardly midrange.
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Besides, the 8600GTS is only 200 bucks (for the XFX 512MiB one even), so I don't see why one wouldn't SLI them to be able to run things like Crysis on high detail, and it would still be cheaper than a high-end 8800.
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You can get an XFX 512mb 8600 for just under 80 quid.
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=645524
This is what am getting. 
I'll don't consider the 8000's to be mid range, as the 8000's are at the top of the food chain in Nvidia, they are top, mid range cards are the 6000's and 7000's, while the bottom range card's are the 5000's.
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| Re: EA Crysis Demo Released [message #293375 is a reply to message #292971] |
Sun, 28 October 2007 14:33 |
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Mid-range cards always work that way, they typically have the same performance as the high-end cards of the previous generation. 8600 being on par with 7900 cards, 7600 equal to 6800, and so on.
Of course you're probably playing at 1024*768, 1280*1024, or some equivalent widescreen reolution. Compare them 1600*1200 or higher. The 8800GTX can run games like the UT3 demo at resolution upwards of 3360*2100 (2100p) with max settings.
| IronWarrior wrote on Sun, 28 October 2007 17:20 |
I'll don't consider the 8000's to be mid range, as the 8000's are at the top of the food chain in Nvidia, they are top, mid range cards are the 6000's and 7000's, while the bottom range card's are the 5000's.
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Those cards are from different generations, it only makes sense to compare cards within the same generation since the older ones aren't even produced anymore. That an 6800 would still likely outperform a 8300 series card.
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| Re: EA Crysis Demo Released [message #293381 is a reply to message #292971] |
Sun, 28 October 2007 14:42 |
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The 7950GX2 cards aren't that great to be honest. They may have 512-bit 1GiB memory, but the slow core and memory clock speeds aren't going to process whats in the memory very fast.
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| Re: EA Crysis Demo Released [message #293391 is a reply to message #292971] |
Sun, 28 October 2007 15:33 |
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They have a 256bit memory bus, not 512. Only the HD2900Pro has a 512bit memory bus. Sites just try to pull a fast one on consumers and call it 512bit because both PCBs have 256bit. It's not the same thing.
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| Re: EA Crysis Demo Released [message #293402 is a reply to message #293376] |
Sun, 28 October 2007 16:01 |
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Yeah but you're card like every other 7000 is only an DX9, so when an game or something comes along that requires DX10, you be fucked, like am fucked with my present 5700LE. :/
Which by the way, has been a very good card for me, it's allowed me to play all the games untill Bioshock was released.
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| Re: EA Crysis Demo Released [message #293443 is a reply to message #292971] |
Mon, 29 October 2007 01:58 |
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It's over 50 % more expensive... how can you call that "for only 70 bucks more"???
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| Re: EA Crysis Demo Released [message #293458 is a reply to message #293443] |
Mon, 29 October 2007 03:37 |
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| Goztow wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 02:58 |
It's over 50 % more expensive... how can you call that "for only 70 bucks more"???
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Indeed, buying an 8800 over here would cost me about 170-200 pounds which is way too much money for something to give you more fps then you ever need.
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