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OK..let's forget about the age for now. Let's look at it gradewise.
Giving these options to kids in grade 6-8 is SIMPLY WRONG. It totally does not make sense AT ALL. They are way too young. 6th grade? Get out of here.
But it does make sense to give them these options in high school. Even though it may help with unwanted pregnancies and somewhat with disease prevention, this whole deal is quite irrrational.
In my middle school years, I did not notice any "sexual things" going on until the 8th grade.
TBH, what really frightens me about this whole thing is the way sexuality is presented to these kids.
This pretty much says that the parents, the goverment and their education system has FAILED in founding a positive moral outlook at kids.
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| Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #291400 is a reply to message #291373] |
Fri, 19 October 2007 02:08 |
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| Rocko wrote on Thu, 18 October 2007 23:30 |
Morals should not matter here.
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That ladies and gentlemen, is the reason that our generation is so fucked up. Loose morals creates bastard children with mothers that don't even have an age spread of 18 years. Loose morals are the reason sexually transmitted diseases run rampant and loose morals are the reason for much of the crime that happens.
Limit yourself to one woman that you love(not lust mind you) and these things have less of a chance of happening. Or, as was mentioned earlier, wait until marriage.
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| Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #291433 is a reply to message #291299] |
Fri, 19 October 2007 07:34 |
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We all mature mentally and physically at different ages. To try and put a number on where that happens is absurd because there is no one age.
Kids 10-13 aren't mentally ready for sex. Some may be physically ready, but sex is a little much for someone at that mental stage.
I think sex-ed needs to be taught in schools to younger kids. It shouldn't be an abstinence or safe-sex class, though. It should teach about how bodily functions and mental capacity don't go hand-in-hand and it should be a decision made based on the morals and the mental maturity of the participants.
I see nothing wrong with waiting until you're married. I've always been somewhat disappointed to know that other guys have had my girlfriends before I did. I'm sure that my girlfriends have felt somewhat of the same. It all depends on your morality on the issue. If you're into sharing your body with one person after you've made a lifelong commitment, then that's fine. Don't go away from your morals because of other people telling you that you're stupid. You shouldn't have to be looked down upon, either, if you choose to have sex with several different people before or during (as long as both spouses are on the same page) marriage.
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| Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #291451 is a reply to message #291365] |
Fri, 19 October 2007 09:01 |
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Well okay I am 16 and I think that it is a sick thing to do and all of that stuff. I sit in eat lunch every day next to our assistant princpal in the cafteria and she was talking about how like 78% of the girls at East Chapel Hill High are pregnate and have sex. I was shocked, so shocked that she was surprised and that she said "that I did not even know that it was that many people"
This conversation was between her and the janitor, he said that some girl had her period in the middle of the floor in the hallway and that he had to clean it up. :S
| CarrierII wrote on Fri, 19 October 2007 04:01 |
Or even vote. I'm with the 16+ camp here, because that's the law (and I'm 16  ) and I'm not just going to go leaping into bed with some stranger, I'd have to had a caring relationship beforehand.
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I agree with you BTW.
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| Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #291461 is a reply to message #291299] |
Fri, 19 October 2007 09:36 |
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Ok ok ok...
Middle schoolers are TOO YOUNG to have sex, or even think about sex, or even be playin with themselves. They just don't understand what's so special about it or all the consequences that can happen.
Personally, I know the first thing I'll tell my son when he's 16 is "If you're gonna do it, be safe! Cuz I'm not helpin ya out if you knock someone up."
I think at 16 kids are old enough to understand sex for the most part, and are mature enough to handle it.
On the subject of waiting till marriage, I think that's ridiculous. I know people who are goin out who love each other a lot. I think that if you REALLY love your partner, sex can be the best way to "get closer to" them. Although it can spoil some relationships, if you're mature enough to handle your desires and realize your partner isn't just a sexual object, it can be the best thing that ever happened, making a special bond between you two.
If you DO choose to wait till you're married, it just might be that much better, but I don't think it's wrong if you do it before.
Now's the point where I'd tell my own story, but I'm not entirely sure you'd wanna read it.
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| Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #291495 is a reply to message #291299] |
Fri, 19 October 2007 12:25 |
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Btw, humans are physically READY for sex and children at 9-10 (heard it from PhysED teacher, don't blame me) It's just if they are mentally ready. (Of fuck here comes moral problems)
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| Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #291498 is a reply to message #291400] |
Fri, 19 October 2007 12:29 |
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| Jecht wrote on Fri, 19 October 2007 05:08 |
| Rocko wrote on Thu, 18 October 2007 23:30 |
Morals should not matter here.
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That ladies and gentlemen, is the reason that our generation is so fucked up. Loose morals creates bastard children with mothers that don't even have an age spread of 18 years. Loose morals are the reason sexually transmitted diseases run rampant and loose morals are the reason for much of the crime that happens.
Limit yourself to one woman that you love(not lust mind you) and these things have less of a chance of happening. Or, as was mentioned earlier, wait until marriage.
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I disagree. I believe that the morals today are the problem. Going along with what I said earlier about grandparents, morals each year get more strict and strict because of the current generation trying to be better, but not as "mean" as the previous generation.
Therefore more morals are put into play. This restricts the boundaries of everyone's life. It makes life harder, and most of these 'morals' are completely pointless and shouldn't even exist. And because some morals exist, the word is a horrible place!
Think of morals like how the ESRB rates video games. During the times of the N64, games that where rated "E" would of been rated "T" or even "M" in some cases today. (Don't ask me for any examples.. I don't feel like looking through my N64 games...)
Now, I'm not saying morals are bad... I am saying that too many morals are bad. It is like eating vegetables. If you eat them, their good for you, but if they are all you eat, it isn't good for you.
I also realize that people have their own morals, but I just think that some of those morals are completely stupid... complicates life for little no no reason at all.
I believe in my own morales, too. What I believe in is doing what ever relates to me, and if I am able to help someone else by doing something that I was going to do anyway, then I would do that instead. I would much rather make life easier for someone else than for me, just as long as I end up doing what I wanted in the first place...
I believe this is good because it doesn't complicate life, it can only make it easier... no matter how you look at it.
wow I went off on a tangent.
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| Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #291507 is a reply to message #291299] |
Fri, 19 October 2007 12:54 |
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Morals and parents are getting stricter? HA! That is a ridiculous conclusion you've come to. Morals are, by far, becoming much more relaxed.
If children are exposed to certain things in small doses before peer pressure can get to them, they're much less likely to jump full-force into these things. For instance, if a parent allows their kids to have (small amounts of) alcohol as a child, they're much less likely to go buck-wild when they reach their late teens. The same, I feel, would go for sex. If kids were let in on what happens, they'd be less curious, and they wouldn't be so susceptible to having sex so early. This, clearly, isn't a case of the morals themselves, but the parenting involved.
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| Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #291511 is a reply to message #291363] |
Fri, 19 October 2007 13:16 |
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| Rocko wrote on Thu, 18 October 2007 22:09 |
| Sn1per74* wrote on Thu, 18 October 2007 22:57 |
| BlueThen wrote on Thu, 18 October 2007 18:02 |
I would say 20 or so... Not because of the sex part, but if the girl get's pregnant at the age of 15, that baby would most likely die or be defective
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That is totally 100% not true. If you're able to have a baby, it won't necessarily come out deformed.
You should wait until marriage to have sex. Having sex before then ruins relationships.
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have you ever been married lol? I'd think that not having sex before the marriage, then marrying and having sex and really realizing you're not compatible would ruin a marriage.
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Sex alone shouldn't make you and your wife/husband compatible or not. That's messed up if the only reason you get together is because of sex.
| cheesesoda wrote on Fri, 19 October 2007 14:54 |
Morals and parents are getting stricter? HA! That is a ridiculous conclusion you've come to. Morals are, by far, becoming much more relaxed.
If children are exposed to certain things in small doses before peer pressure can get to them, they're much less likely to jump full-force into these things. For instance, if a parent allows their kids to have (small amounts of) alcohol as a child, they're much less likely to go buck-wild when they reach their late teens. The same, I feel, would go for sex. If kids were let in on what happens, they'd be less curious, and they wouldn't be so susceptible to having sex so early. This, clearly, isn't a case of the morals themselves, but the parenting involved.
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This is absolutely ridiculous. Let's let our kids smoke marijuana when they're five years old, so then they won't do it as an adult. Also, when the kids are young lets use a lot of curse words around them, so they will think nothing of them, therefore not use them. And for dinner every night, lets give our 8 year old kid a shot of whiskey, this will make them not drink so much when they become a teenager.
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| cheesesoda wrote on Fri, 19 October 2007 15:54 |
Morals and parents are getting stricter? HA! That is a ridiculous conclusion you've come to.
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I didn't even read your post. I got this far and I know your wrong. You didn't even read my posts.
I said it is because of OLDER generations being stricter, the current generations are becoming less and less strict because they don't want to be like the last generation.
Lol, you somehow got the complete wrong idea... XD
EDIT: Ok, I read the rest of your post, and you basically agree with me.
The old morales of people are gone, but are replaced with these really stupid ones. Which there are more of, and is why I said there are getting more and more through the generations.
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| Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #291515 is a reply to message #291511] |
Fri, 19 October 2007 13:30 |
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This is absolutely ridiculous. Let's let our kids smoke marijuana when they're five years old, so then they won't do it as an adult. Also, when the kids are young lets use a lot of curse words around them, so they will think nothing of them, therefore not use them. And for dinner every night, lets give our 8 year old kid a shot of whiskey, this will make them not drink so much when they become a teenager.
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Quite the closed-minded, aren't we? Just because it's not something you view as logical doesn't mean that it isn't. Seriously, stop acting like a fucktard.
There are other ways of informing your kids and letting them be versed in certain situations instead of having them actually try it. Obviously, letting them physically experience everything isn't the best idea, but for some it wouldn't hurt.
As for your letting a child have a shot of whiskey... maybe not that much, but a small amount would work just fine. There is some scientific research behind this.
Edit: razorblade, read your first paragraph. How did I get the wrong idea? Just like you, I ignored the rest of your post.
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| Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #291516 is a reply to message #291299] |
Fri, 19 October 2007 13:31 |
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What's deliciously funny is watching a group of people who've never had these relations, never had children nor a committed relationship (with a human anyways) let alone a marraige comment on this topic.
And if I even dare mention the fact that the bible has the answers to ALL these moral "dilemas" I will be vilified.
Because after all, you guys are waaaay smarter than God and 10,000 years of your ancestry.
The funny thing: In the last 50 years we've broken the successful model for mature relationships hammered out for thousands of years and wonder why the family unit is broken and our kids have no ability to relate and kill each other and themselves.
But hey, what do I know. I'm a blind, socially backwards, gullible religious freak who hasn't reached "enlightenment" and hides in theology.
But my family isn't broken, my marraige works and my kids aren't violent or acting like rabbits.
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| Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #291518 is a reply to message #291516] |
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| KIRBY-098 wrote on Fri, 19 October 2007 16:31 |
What's deliciously funny is watching a group of people who've never had these relations, never had children nor a committed relationship (with a human anyways) let alone a marraige comment on this topic.
And if I even dare mention the fact that the bible has the answers to ALL these moral "dilemas" I will be vilified.
Because after all, you guys are waaaay smarter than God and 10,000 years of your ancestry.
The funny thing: In the last 50 years we've broken the successful model for mature relationships hammered out for thousands of years and wonder why the family unit is broken and our kids have no ability to relate and kill each other and themselves.
But hey, what do I know. I'm a blind, socially backwards, gullible religious freak who hasn't reached "enlightenment" and hides in theology.
But my family isn't broken, my marraige works and my kids aren't violent or acting like rabbits.
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There has never been a "traditional family", and it's always changing, so there's NEVER been a time where there's just one model that works. For all of humanity, it's been evolving.
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| Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #291519 is a reply to message #291515] |
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| cheesesoda wrote on Fri, 19 October 2007 16:30 |
Edit: razorblade, read your first paragraph. How did I get the wrong idea? Just like you, I ignored the rest of your post.
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I said MORALS are getting stricter, not the generations themselves.
When something gets more strict, that doesn't necessarily mean in terms of rules and enforcement. I meant that there are more and more different reasons for people to make up more morals.
However, as a result of this, more and more freedoms are being given to the new generation because the previous generation (This generation's parents) don't want to be like their previous generation (Your parent's parents)
For example:
What once was "Be home before 7:00 or I will beat you with my belt"
is now "Make sure your home before 11:00, or else I will take away your cell phone" (Than they get home at 1:00, and no action is taken)
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| razorblade001 wrote on Fri, 19 October 2007 16:36 |
| cheesesoda wrote on Fri, 19 October 2007 16:30 |
Edit: razorblade, read your first paragraph. How did I get the wrong idea? Just like you, I ignored the rest of your post.
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I said MORALS are getting stricter, not the generations themselves.
When something gets more strict, that doesn't necessarily mean in terms of rules and enforcement. I meant that there are more and more different reasons for people to make up more morals.
However, as a result of this, more and more freedoms are being given to the new generation because the previous generation (This generation's parents) don't want to be like their previous generation (Your parent's parents)
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Morals AREN'T getting more strict, though. They've been the same for generations. The only "new" morals that could be stemming from recent times would be based on technology, and even then they're just new adaptations of old morals.
Edit: Just stop saying "strict".
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1. characterized by or acting in close conformity to requirements or principles
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| Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #291523 is a reply to message #291299] |
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Live in specificity all you want, but the model has always been:
Father is head of household
Children OBEY parents
Betrothal and courting before marraige with the father giving a blessing. (Dating NEVER existed before the fifties)
Children WORK in the household
Wife works with the children to develop social balance and respect for others while the father works to provide.
The family eats together every day and discusses the day's events
These of course are examples and I could go on, but my point is this:
We have traded the hard work put into developing our social fabric to focus on what we think we deserve and our comfort. We work three jobs to have a lexus and a license plate with our narcicistic banners of self indulgence.
We allow our kids to do whatever they want as long as they don't interfere with "Lost" and our internet time, because we're FAR more important and we need our "time" because we "worked" so hard.
Where is the self sacrifice (the true definition of love) and self denial for a greater good?
We have lost our moral compasses and are adrift on the way to a social shipwreck.
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