| Define Normality [message #289402] |
Tue, 09 October 2007 14:34  |
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Zion
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Yeah...
Aparently, being 'normal' differes per person. But does it really?
I'm autistic, and to me, you're not normal people (especialy horquer), but to you... I'm not normal... So who's right?
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| Re: Define Normality [message #289440 is a reply to message #289402] |
Tue, 09 October 2007 15:37  |
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| The Merovingian wrote on Tue, 09 October 2007 16:34 |
Yeah...
Aparently, being 'normal' differes per person. But does it really?
I'm autistic, and to me, you're not normal people (especialy horquer), but to you... I'm not normal... So who's right?
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| Re: Define Normality [message #289511 is a reply to message #289402] |
Tue, 09 October 2007 19:33 |
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If someone acts in a prescribed fashion due to some fad driven by commercialism, and a culture of 'fitting in' , such as being 'EMO' or a 'sk8ter boi' , or whatever, than they are not 'normal' to me.
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| Re: Define Normality [message #289530 is a reply to message #289402] |
Tue, 09 October 2007 23:51 |
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"I'm different! Just like everybody else..."
Normality, as most of the human race defines the term, is entirely artificial. This is because the standards of normality for most people are entirely too narrow in scope to apply beyond their own limited familiar group (be it their household, friends, city, country, ethnic group, etc). It is a construct of society, just as society is a construct of sentient beings. It is a means for society as a whole to justify its actions and beliefs through the exclusion of everyone and everything which falls outside that which a majority of the members of that society define as 'normal.' No one is born already indoctrinated into the ways and means of society; they are instructed by members of that society and so pick up the accepted norms of that society- or, if they so choose, reject them.
The only 'true' normality is physical normality, in the sense that the human body is designed and built to operate a certain way and a body that does not is abnormal. However, since social 'normality' is a concept rather than a fact (it is, of course, a concept accepted as fact), it is not something which is inherent. There are norms- the rule of law, as well as certain moral standards (killing is wrong, the provision of care for those who cannot care for themselves, etc) which extend beyond society, and which must be or ought to be applied to humanity as a whole. Lesser standards, such as the use or style of clothing, language, and so forth, cannot be applied universally and therefore cannot be defined as normal.
True normality, therefore, is a set of standards applying to the physical (that would include brain chemistry, as that is in the end a physical thing) design of humanity and to the moral codes which absolutely must be applied to all of humanity to prevent the utter and immediate breakdown of all society- and nothing else besides. If an overwhelming majority of humans cannot be defined as X, then X is not normal- period, ended. Normality to the limit of our understanding is the only normal; anything lesser is merely dependent on region and taste.
As a footnote to that, I would like to add that those characteristics falling under physical abnormality (and again, that includes brain and body chemistry, i.e. mental defects or physical attractions) cannot be judged by the standards of moral normality, since those things are not within the scope of the affected person's control. Moral abnormality is a choice; physical abnormality is not.
The short version- 'normal' as commonly defined is a construct of human societies. The only things which can truly be called 'normal' are those which can be found to apply to an overwhelming majority of the entire species- and even then, there are two different forms of normality which cannot overlap one another.
All subjective, of course.
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| Re: Define Normality [message #289632 is a reply to message #289402] |
Wed, 10 October 2007 10:58 |
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In my opinion, those who are "autistic" or have other "disabilities" are far more interesting people and better friends than those who aren't. This is just my experience, as most of my so called "normal" "friends" (Too many quotes... :s) have stabbed me in the back, then I met Cassie (First names only). She has Bipolar, ADHD and a whole host of various problems (She's "dyslexic" with numbers, anyone know what that's called?). She's also the best person I've ever met, and the only person outside of my family I can trust. (Yep, it's a lonely life)
So before you write off those with "mental disorders" as "weird", bear the above paragraph in mind. I think I've got some sort of mental disorder, I find it very hard to stop thinking about anything, especially problems that want solving. I ought to get tested. Anyways...
Troop, stop flaming.
I think that any "normal" individual (That is to say, any person who tried to be "normal") is in some sort of self-denial over their "true" personality, and I don't like that. (I know several people like it, they're horrible).
The topic ended with the first two replies, really.
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the hell is that?
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| Re: Define Normality [message #289715 is a reply to message #289639] |
Wed, 10 October 2007 16:43 |
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I mean really... come on, kill off all the diseased and disabled people? What is wrong with you...
Humanity as a whole is impure. We should just kill off them instead, they are a plague on the universe!
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| Re: Define Normality [message #289809 is a reply to message #289715] |
Thu, 11 October 2007 03:41 |
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Uniqueness and difference is what makes us human.
Normality is nonexistant.
[IID:Normality Restored]
Bah what the hell.
nopol10=Nopol=nopol(GSA)
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| Re: Define Normality [message #289952 is a reply to message #289897] |
Thu, 11 October 2007 18:17 |
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| trooprm02 wrote on Thu, 11 October 2007 16:17 |
| nikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 10 October 2007 13:22 |
| trooprm02 wrote on Tue, 09 October 2007 21:37 |
Disesed kids are weird, I see kids with autism/add etc as inpure 
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C'mon Damir... if anything, YOU look 'diseased' ...
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Hi, I like to wear hats sideways.
oh, and its a sad day when french kids on welfare think they will amount to anything 
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Troop, I don't know if you are being a troll, or are genuinely an asshole. Either way, your views disgust me.
The way you respond to these kind of arguments is disgusting, bigoted, and immature. I wouldn't expect someone of your age to be saying stuff like this. Grow up, or leave.
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