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| BW exploit ? [message #253692] |
Thu, 12 April 2007 05:21  |
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rs4015
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umm, im not sure if im supposed to post this in this forum but,
on some servers i keep on getting a message saying that my BW is more than 56000 or 72000 (not sure abt numbers) nd then it says that my BW has been reset to 56000 or 72000. nd once it said that i should stop using the BW exploit.....i dont even know what the hell BW stands for
i think i need to change something in my options but dnt kno what
can anyone help me get rid of this message nd fix my problem??
thnx
these are the times when ur like why God WHY!!!???
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| Re: BW exploit ? [message #253699 is a reply to message #253692] |
Thu, 12 April 2007 06:33  |
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BW = bandwith. It need to be high enough, otherwise you log. The auto detection in Renegade is crappy and often puts your BW to 56k instead of your real one.
Go into 'my information' and put your connection to LAN/T1 and you shouldn't have any trouble anymore.
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: BW exploit ? [message #253722 is a reply to message #253708] |
Thu, 12 April 2007 10:17 |
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Goztow
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| tigerback4014 wrote on Thu, 12 April 2007 17:53 |
but i do have 56k
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Some servers don't allow 56K'ers as they lag like hell...
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: BW exploit ? [message #253754 is a reply to message #253692] |
Thu, 12 April 2007 13:42 |
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56k doesn't affect the server even the SLIGHTEST, but it does give the player who has the connection an advantage.
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| Re: BW exploit ? [message #253775 is a reply to message #253692] |
Thu, 12 April 2007 16:24 |
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Some server bots detects 56k players as using the BW exploit (as is obviously happening here) this can result in either a warning in IRC and bw being reset to max or an instant kick (perhaps this is what gozy meant by not allowing 56k'ers?).
Having 56k is definately not an advantage, being able to lower your bandwidth so much that everyone walks in straight lines in to walls so you can shoot them in the head (ie: BW exploit) is and this is the reason you have a problem, the bots seem incapable of distinguishing 56k players from cheaters.
Someone playing on a slower connection makes zero difference to the server or other players in game - it only affects the player concerned.
The solution? don't try and play online games on dial up, this is 2007 get a decent net connection. I get an 8mb unlimited connection for £4.99 ($9.50 ish) a month.
It's a mexican pirate .... F*ck a dog by Blink 182
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| Re: BW exploit ? [message #253802 is a reply to message #253692] |
Thu, 12 April 2007 23:35 |
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Goztow
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I didn't go into detail indd but what I ment is that some servers set their minimum bandwith to e.g. 120.000 to avoid the players with low kbps to appear to be lagging a lot (I never said it made the server lag).
If the serevr sets its minimum to 55.000, there should be no problem for 56k-users.
But this is 2007... and Mex has a point...
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: BW exploit ? [message #253827 is a reply to message #253775] |
Fri, 13 April 2007 04:47 |
puddle_splasher
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| MexPirate wrote on Thu, 12 April 2007 18:24 |
I get an 8mb unlimited connection for £4.99 ($9.50 ish) a month.
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Who is the ISP?
I use Orange and it costs me £29.99 a month for 8mb unlimited.
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| Re: BW exploit ? [message #253828 is a reply to message #253827] |
Fri, 13 April 2007 05:04 |
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| puddle_splasher wrote on Fri, 13 April 2007 06:47 |
| MexPirate wrote on Thu, 12 April 2007 18:24 |
I get an 8mb unlimited connection for £4.99 ($9.50 ish) a month.
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Who is the ISP?
I use Orange and it costs me £29.99 a month for 8mb unlimited.
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lol u fool.
I am on orange - get an orange mobile and they will let you have the same net for £4.99
I got: free phone, free tomtom one sat-nav, £120 cashback, free 2mb net or £4.99 8mb, 12month contract, 400 minutes, 50 texts all for £30 a month.
Tomtom = £180
Phone = ? £40
Cashback = £120
Net = £240
Calls/minutes = £120
Total Value = £700
Total Cost = £360
Basically they are paying me to use the phone - anyone with an orange mobile paying at least £30 a month is entitled to free/4.99 net (just ring, give em your mobile number and they will switch you over)
People who just go but a fancy phone in the high street make me lol.
try here: http://www.mobiles.co.uk/orange-motorola-l7e-2.html you get a choice of gift, cashback and net with any of those options
It's a mexican pirate .... F*ck a dog by Blink 182
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| Re: BW exploit ? [message #253994 is a reply to message #253828] |
Sat, 14 April 2007 13:18 |
puddle_splasher
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| MexPirate wrote on Fri, 13 April 2007 07:04 |
| puddle_splasher wrote on Fri, 13 April 2007 06:47 |
| MexPirate wrote on Thu, 12 April 2007 18:24 |
I get an 8mb unlimited connection for £4.99 ($9.50 ish) a month.
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Who is the ISP?
I use Orange and it costs me £29.99 a month for 8mb unlimited.
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lol u fool.
I am on orange - get an orange mobile and they will let you have the same net for £4.99
I got: free phone, free tomtom one sat-nav, £120 cashback, free 2mb net or £4.99 8mb, 12month contract, 400 minutes, 50 texts all for £30 a month.
Tomtom = £180
Phone = ? £40
Cashback = £120
Net = £240
Calls/minutes = £120
Total Value = £700
Total Cost = £360
Basically they are paying me to use the phone - anyone with an orange mobile paying at least £30 a month is entitled to free/4.99 net (just ring, give em your mobile number and they will switch you over)
People who just go but a fancy phone in the high street make me lol.
try here: http://www.mobiles.co.uk/orange-motorola-l7e-2.html you get a choice of gift, cashback and net with any of those options
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Fool!!
Who are you trying to kid?
Show me the contract that you have and I will gladly walk into the Orange shop at Braehead, Glasgow, to ask for the same deal.
My mobile, alone is £25.00 a month and I also have a separate bill for Tom-Tom (speed camera alert, per annum.) followed by my BT standard phone bill, with Orange as an ISP for an additional £29.99 a month for 8mb broadband, unlimited download)
So, that really leaves you with "a free phone, £120 cashback (£10 month, if its over a year, most likely, 18 month) or wait for it,
(free 2mb net or £4.99 8mb) on your mobile phone!!! So much for unlimited!!! Hey lets all play Renegade on a mobile phone.
Pissing my fuckin pants laughing.
At least state a fact which can be verified. Feel free to check what I pay. It is all there. ( BT landline, Orange ISP, Orange Mobile and Tom-Tom)
All that for £29.99, as you say from Orange. The proof is in the pudding.
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| Re: BW exploit ? [message #256060 is a reply to message #253692] |
Fri, 27 April 2007 02:43 |
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rs4015
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thanx for the help guys, i just got dsl connection, nd i fixed the connection sttings in renegade
finally no more bw exploit
these are the times when ur like why God WHY!!!???
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| Re: BW exploit ? [message #256098 is a reply to message #253994] |
Fri, 27 April 2007 09:17 |
MexPirate
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| puddle_splasher wrote on Sat, 14 April 2007 15:18 |
| MexPirate wrote on Fri, 13 April 2007 07:04 |
| puddle_splasher wrote on Fri, 13 April 2007 06:47 |
| MexPirate wrote on Thu, 12 April 2007 18:24 |
I get an 8mb unlimited connection for £4.99 ($9.50 ish) a month.
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Who is the ISP?
I use Orange and it costs me £29.99 a month for 8mb unlimited.
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lol u fool.
I am on orange - get an orange mobile and they will let you have the same net for £4.99
I got: free phone, free tomtom one sat-nav, £120 cashback, free 2mb net or £4.99 8mb, 12month contract, 400 minutes, 50 texts all for £30 a month.
Tomtom = £180
Phone = ? £40
Cashback = £120
Net = £240
Calls/minutes = £120
Total Value = £700
Total Cost = £360
Basically they are paying me to use the phone - anyone with an orange mobile paying at least £30 a month is entitled to free/4.99 net (just ring, give em your mobile number and they will switch you over)
People who just go but a fancy phone in the high street make me lol.
try here: http://www.mobiles.co.uk/orange-motorola-l7e-2.html you get a choice of gift, cashback and net with any of those options
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Fool!!
Who are you trying to kid?
Show me the contract that you have and I will gladly walk into the Orange shop at Braehead, Glasgow, to ask for the same deal.
My mobile, alone is £25.00 a month and I also have a separate bill for Tom-Tom (speed camera alert, per annum.) followed by my BT standard phone bill, with Orange as an ISP for an additional £29.99 a month for 8mb broadband, unlimited download)
So, that really leaves you with "a free phone, £120 cashback (£10 month, if its over a year, most likely, 18 month) or wait for it,
(free 2mb net or £4.99 8mb) on your mobile phone!!! So much for unlimited!!! Hey lets all play Renegade on a mobile phone.
Pissing my fuckin pants laughing.
At least state a fact which can be verified. Feel free to check what I pay. It is all there. ( BT landline, Orange ISP, Orange Mobile and Tom-Tom)
All that for £29.99, as you say from Orange. The proof is in the pudding.
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You are fucking retarded dude, I provided links where you can get the same deal, not that I have any idea why I would waste my time trying to help you but:
I could scan my contract but as that is just for the mobile it would be pointless.
Again, here is the link and similar deals (depending on the number of minutes/texts you need): http://www.mobiles.co.uk/orange-motorola-l7e-2.html
I said you get a free tomtom, I didn't say you get a free subscription to optional services (only a one month trial)
I don't pay the line rental for the phone line - but yes you need one, I find that most homes these days have a phone in already though so I would hardly consider that an additional cost.
As i stated clearly, I have a 12 month contract (cash back is 3x £40)
You have two option as for the internet (not on the fucking mobile phone you complete fucking moron, as you would notice if you fucking bothered to read my fucking post that was fucking trying to help YOU save money)
Option A: FREE 2mb limited internet complete with free modem
Option B: £4.99 8mb UNLIMITED internet complete with free wireless livebox
Maybe as an orange customer you should try looking at their website before shelling out £30 on an identical service that you could have for £4.99: http://freebb.orange.co.uk/offerinfo/ (it turns out that they have modified it so you now need an 18month contract)
Yes, proof is in the websites I have provided backing up everything I said - I will know not to bother next time.
P.S. Fuck You
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| Re: BW exploit ? [message #256334 is a reply to message #256100] |
Sun, 29 April 2007 03:55 |
puddle_splasher
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You have misunderstood everything.
The "BW exploit" is I believe, a setting that players adjust, whilst using a landline to play Renegade.
You then replied with regards to mobile phones.
The contract that I have for Broadband is totally unlimited usage, no strings attached for a landline. That is why it costs so much, but it is worth every penny.(3 permanent gamers and an internet wife on the 4th pc.)
My mobile phone and bill are incidental.
So! all in all, I have a pretty good deal. My only wish is that this area had Cable from NTL for an even better deal. 
Sorry if the above upsets you.
http://www.orange.co.uk/time/broadbandunlimited/
£19.99 a month for 8mb speed. I am in a contract at the moment with Orange at £27.99 for the same deal.
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| Re: BW exploit ? [message #256335 is a reply to message #256334] |
Sun, 29 April 2007 04:19 |
MexPirate
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| puddle_splasher wrote on Sun, 29 April 2007 05:55 |
The contract that I have for Broadband is totally unlimited usage, no strings attached for a landline. That is why it costs so much, but it is worth every penny.(3 permanent gamers and an internet wife on the 4th pc.)
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That is amazing, what goes in to your livebox then if it isn't a landline? or does the internet magically appear there?
You have the same BT landline that I use, you are just paying £23 a month more for the privelage.
Also if you check the link you gave me, you will see that in the corner there is a little box telling you that you can get the same deal - for £5.
You pay Mobile £25 + Internet £28 = £53 a month
I pay mobile £20 (with cashback) + Internet £5 = £25 a month
You obviously earn too much money.
It's a mexican pirate .... F*ck a dog by Blink 182
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| Re: BW exploit ? [message #256339 is a reply to message #256335] |
Sun, 29 April 2007 04:49 |
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I phoned Orange, fully expecting to ask for a MAC code. My Bill has now been reduced from £27.99 to £19.99.
Fair usage still applies but it has been increased to 50mb (if thats the correct letters) per month.
The Rep at Orange instantly agreed to reduce the bill. As of now the next bill will be cheaper.
I contemplated cancelling the existing contract, starting afresh and giving one of the kids a new mobile. However they never carry the phone with them and I took a new contract in December for my mobile.
I now offer you an apology and say many thanks for making me check out the really small print. It is not very often that you get the same deal for a cheaper price. 
ps. The original deal,(over the last 11 years), never had a livebox. Freeserve, became Wanadoo then Orange.
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| Re: BW exploit ? [message #256343 is a reply to message #253692] |
Sun, 29 April 2007 05:16 |
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another option would be to simply change the tariff (assuming there is a mobile in your houehold on orange) on your existing mobile, as long as you pay at least £30 you should be able to take advantage of the deal, all it took for me was one (free) phonecall and they switched it over there and then (I was also already using orange internet before I combined it with my mobile). This MIGHT mean you need to agree to keep the contract for 18 months but wouldn't affect any upgrades you would be entitled to and if you have had the same ISP for 11 years it would seem you dont plan to change any time soon.
Glad to have helped. I think they intentionally make these things complicated and confusing, most people do not investigate.
Anyone using any ISP that is offering prices cheaper than you are currently paying should contact them, I believe they HAVE to charge existing customers the same although only if the customer asks (This is true with talktalk and BT for sure).
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| Re: BW exploit ? [message #256452 is a reply to message #256100] |
Mon, 30 April 2007 00:40 |
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| MexPirate wrote on Fri, 27 April 2007 12:25 |
| Alex wrote on Sun, 22 April 2007 13:42 |
| MexPirate wrote on Fri, 13 April 2007 07:04 |
| puddle_splasher wrote on Fri, 13 April 2007 06:47 |
| MexPirate wrote on Thu, 12 April 2007 18:24 |
I get an 8mb unlimited connection for £4.99 ($9.50 ish) a month.
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Who is the ISP?
I use Orange and it costs me £29.99 a month for 8mb unlimited.
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Yap yap yap.
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I bet both of your upload speed is like, Something horrible., Maybe under 100Kbps.
But 1MB down is very nice actually. 
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It's only 300kb/s but I think that is partly down to the fact I am using a £10 ebay usb wireless adapter - perhaps puddle can compare if he has an ethernet cable?
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Wait, 8MB and your download speed is 300kbps? If so, you're getting ripped off.
If 300kbps up - Can I move in with you set up a router? :>
EDIT - I don't think a wireless adapter would affect it, Unless someone local to you is hacking your connection and leeching your connection, But I would need know your wireless modem specs..
Presence is a curious thing, if you think you need to prove it... you probably never had it in the first place.
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| Re: BW exploit ? [message #256519 is a reply to message #255099] |
Mon, 30 April 2007 10:33 |
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| Alex wrote on Sun, 22 April 2007 14:42 |
I bet both of your upload speed is like, Something horrible., Maybe under 100Kbps.
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y u dum?
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| Re: BW exploit ? [message #256549 is a reply to message #256524] |
Mon, 30 April 2007 14:41 |
MexPirate
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| Alex wrote on Mon, 30 April 2007 13:12 |
Unless I'm missing the sarcasm.
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Duplicating it I would say.
Seeing as you had problems reading even your own post I thought I would make things nice and short for you.
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