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When will the US attack Iran?[ 59 vote(s) ]
1.Within a month 5 / 8%
2.Before the presidential election 11 / 19%
3.Not until after the presidential election 3 / 5%
4.Never 18 / 31%
5.First Iran, then North Korea and Syria 8 / 14%
6.Whenever we are "done" with Iraq 14 / 24%

http://www.truthdig.com/interview/item/20070227_pentagon_whistleblower_on_the_co ming_war_with_iran/

Please Read the article (all 3 pages) before you vote.

[Updated on: Sun, 04 March 2007 04:23]

Re: When will the US attack Iran? [message #248120] Sun, 04 March 2007 07:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I can pretty much say never.

We're trying to kill them and help them at the same time.


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Re: When will the US attack Iran? [message #248198] Sun, 04 March 2007 18:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I picked number 5. Big Grin


Re: When will the US attack Iran? [message #248202] Sun, 04 March 2007 19:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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IWarriors wrote on Sun, 04 March 2007 20:20

I picked number 5. Big Grin





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Re: When will the US attack Iran? [message #248204] Sun, 04 March 2007 19:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

Please Read the article (all 3 pages) before you vote.


woops!

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Re: When will the US attack Iran? [message #248232] Mon, 05 March 2007 02:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Always before an election. It gets them street cred.

Just look at Maggie Thatcher and the Falklands, Tony Blair and Iraq.

They gain a massive amount of public support and then remain in office. If the US is anything like the UK then your Special Forces are probably in "Theatre" at the moment stirring up the natives. Big Ups
Re: When will the US attack Iran? [message #248234] Mon, 05 March 2007 03:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Did any of you even actually read the article? Whats That
Re: When will the US attack Iran? [message #248236] Mon, 05 March 2007 04:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: When will the US attack Iran? [message #248239] Mon, 05 March 2007 06:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I did, err... I don't know, probably when you've got enough control of Iraq's oil and the US needs some more before Iran sells it all for thier own profit...

EDIT: I feel NK and Syria will be taken on, for different reasons (NK's nuke(s) and Syria because Donald Rumsfeld doesn't like them (that the right guy?))

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Re: When will the US attack Iran? [message #248397] Tue, 06 March 2007 07:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I read abit of it, but not much. Blush
Re: When will the US attack Iran? [message #248479] Tue, 06 March 2007 14:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i didnt vote since i havent read the whole thing. but personally i think that iran must not be let to obtain nukes. i mean what is stopping them from selling those nukes to some terrorist group. i cant see them selling nukes to alquida since alquida is a sunni muslim but iran will prob sell them to hezbollah. and then what?? are you going to stop them then? no its too late then. are you going to trust iran not to do it and to actually develop electrical power from the nuclear enrichment? dont get me wrong iran does have a good argument for it, they are running out of natural resources and nuclear power if handled properly can help their nation very much. however having said that i dont trust them to only strive for the electrical power of the nuclear enrichment, and i dont expect any one else to believe them either. so i see iran being invaded as soon as they are one step away from completing the refinement of the nuclear reaction. but i dont think that its in Bush's plans to invade iran. he really has no motive. he is out of the office right away as it is, since this is his second and last term. so he has no motive to go to another war, unless iran steps up and tells the world they are almost done. and i think the forces are there to intimidate iran to abandon the program since no one knows exactly what the next president is going to do with all those troops there. as far as i have seen north korea might be abandoning their nuclear ambitions as it is. since they are really feeling the sanctions now, and i doubt the north will ever get invaded by US for two main reasons. south korea still has hopes of reuniting the two koreas perhaps after kim Jong (i think his name is) gets assasinated or passes away. and second and most important reason Russia is right beside North korea. and as of right now russia has announced a renewed arms race if US goes through with the construction of the radar in poland and the missile silo in chechoslovakia. just look at it this way, first US builds a radar, then the silo, then they bring their troops right to north korea so very close to russia. Putin wont allow it. thats the end of that. and Syria, well i dont know about it but i dont see it being invaded untill iran is. cause those two will stand together no matter what, since syria wants its land back from israel syria will back iran no matter what.

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Re: When will the US attack Iran? [message #248750] Thu, 08 March 2007 10:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Romaner wrote on Tue, 06 March 2007 21:54

i didnt vote since i havent read the whole thing. but personally i think that iran must not be let to obtain nukes. i mean what is stopping them from selling those nukes to some terrorist group. i cant see them selling nukes to alquida since alquida is a sunni muslim but iran will prob sell them to hezbollah. and then what?? are you going to stop them then? no its too late then. are you going to trust iran not to do it and to actually develop electrical power from the nuclear enrichment? dont get me wrong iran does have a good argument for it, they are running out of natural resources and nuclear power if handled properly can help their nation very much. however having said that i dont trust them to only strive for the electrical power of the nuclear enrichment, and i dont expect any one else to believe them either. so i see iran being invaded as soon as they are one step away from completing the refinement of the nuclear reaction. but i dont think that its in Bush's plans to invade iran. he really has no motive. he is out of the office right away as it is, since this is his second and last term. so he has no motive to go to another war, unless iran steps up and tells the world they are almost done. and i think the forces are there to intimidate iran to abandon the program since no one knows exactly what the next president is going to do with all those troops there. as far as i have seen north korea might be abandoning their nuclear ambitions as it is. since they are really feeling the sanctions now, and i doubt the north will ever get invaded by US for two main reasons. south korea still has hopes of reuniting the two koreas perhaps after kim Jong (i think his name is) gets assasinated or passes away. and second and most important reason Russia is right beside North korea. and as of right now russia has announced a renewed arms race if US goes through with the construction of the radar in poland and the missile silo in chechoslovakia. just look at it this way, first US builds a radar, then the silo, then they bring their troops right to north korea so very close to russia. Putin wont allow it. thats the end of that. and Syria, well i dont know about it but i dont see it being invaded untill iran is. cause those two will stand together no matter what, since syria wants its land back from israel syria will back iran no matter what.


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Re: When will the US attack Iran? [message #248755] Thu, 08 March 2007 11:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lol my bad, but back on topic do you agree disagree opinions people
Re: When will the US attack Iran? [message #249865] Wed, 14 March 2007 15:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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North Korea has already kinda backed down from the fight, agreeing to UN inspectors and dismantling parts of their nuclear program, so I don't think the U.S. is goin after NK any time soon. Syria (maybe I'm just deaf and blind) but they really haven't done too much to piss off Bush.

As far as Iran is concerned, I'm SURE Bush would love to run over Iran, but I think if he tried he'd get impeached in a second. I don't think Iran and its president are goin anywhere in Bush's time as president, nor do I think the next President will do much either, unless Iran does something short of firing a nuke. Both leading Democratic candidates (Obama and Clinton) are anti-war, as well as the leading Republican candidate (Juliani).

I vote never (assuming Iran doesn't do anything drastic).


Edit: oh yea, didn't really finish reading the whole thing, but I got the drift. I based my vote off my knowledge.

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Canadacdn wrote on Wed, 02 July 2008 15:52

If you don't want EA to get any credit, destroy their Refinery. Duh.

Re: When will the US attack Iran? [message #249931] Thu, 15 March 2007 05:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wonder what would happen if Bush managed to get all the bills changed that he needed to to invoke marshal law if the country was in a state of war. Then actually went to war with Iran.

Imagine domininating the middle east, and being able to controll the oil, and therefore not just your own economy but the global economy. That coupled with the fact you have marshall law and democracy goes out the window.

What is that situation called again? Oh yeah, I know... It's called world dictatorship.

I wonder if China would start beefing up, they can't be too happy seeing another super power becoming even more "superer" Razz

Anyway.. I voted before the presedential election.



Re: When will the US attack Iran? [message #251259] Fri, 23 March 2007 08:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Looks like it may be soon. The s*** has hit the fan.

Read! 15 British sailors "seized" by Iranian navy.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/03/23/iran.uk/index.html
Re: When will the US attack Iran? [message #251287] Fri, 23 March 2007 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Er...maybe not. No one cares... Rocked Over

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Re: When will the US attack Iran? [message #251306] Fri, 23 March 2007 14:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Knowing the British they were probably floating in the Gulf of [forgot name, but the one in the middle east] shouting insults at Iran, when Iranians were like "whoa that ain't cool." and seized em.

Sorry to British folks.


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Canadacdn wrote on Wed, 02 July 2008 15:52

If you don't want EA to get any credit, destroy their Refinery. Duh.

Re: When will the US attack Iran? [message #251694] Mon, 26 March 2007 03:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually they were in Iraq waters and the Iranians intercepted them and brought them to Iranian territory.
Re: When will the US attack Iran? [message #251803] Mon, 26 March 2007 15:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well all this has been told to us by the papers, so you never know how credible they are. so far the facts are 15 people most of which are from UK are being interrogated in Iran. and ofcourse the british dont have enough firepower in the gulf to "persuade" iran to give them up. and US has recently admitted to not having proper defense from a russian land to sea missle. that may have been purchased by iran. so i would say all are weary to how this is going to end.
Re: When will the US attack Iran? [message #251817] Mon, 26 March 2007 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I see 2 scenarios.

1. Iran will do like they did last time they "captured prisoners", which is to put them on TV and make a bunch of threats and then let them go (probably in exchange for having their sanctions lifted, which I doubt we will do).

2. They try the prisoners in court for espionage, which is death sentance in Iran. If they kill the 15 prisoners we will probably be singing the "Bomb-Bomb-Bomb, Bomb-Bomb-Iran" song again.
Re: When will the US attack Iran? [message #251997] Tue, 27 March 2007 19:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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For all their madness, I don't think the Iranians are mad enough to execute the British prisoners. Hell, one of em is a woman!

But Iran is not gonna give em up so quickly either. IMO, this is their lucky break...they are going to use the captured personnel as bait.
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Reborn wrote on Thu, 15 March 2007 08:51

I wonder what would happen if Bush managed to get all the bills changed that he needed to to invoke marshal law if the country was in a state of war. Then actually went to war with Iran.

Imagine domininating the middle east, and being able to controll the oil, and therefore not just your own economy but the global economy. That coupled with the fact you have marshall law and democracy goes out the window.

What is that situation called again? Oh yeah, I know... It's called world dictatorship.

I wonder if China would start beefing up, they can't be too happy seeing another super power becoming even more "superer" Razz

Anyway.. I voted before the presedential election.

Hey, I'd be less worried about George Bush becoming "dictator" than I would watching all of my liberties be taken out from underneath me in England.

Also, the US says we're not showing force, but rather just doing some exercises. Yeah... that's believable. Why can't we just admit that we're flaunting our military might? We should be doing that, anyways.


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Re: When will the US attack Iran? [message #252038] Wed, 28 March 2007 04:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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• UK says data shows captured sailors were 1.7 miles inside Iraqi waters
• UK's Blair says prepared for "different phase" if diplomacy fails to free the 15
• Iran says sailors, captured while boarding vessels, were in Iranian waters

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Global positioning data shows that a group of 15 British sailors and marines was 1.7 nautical miles (3.1 kilometers) inside Iraqi waters when they were captured by Iran last week, Britain's Ministry of Defence said on Wednesday.

Vice Admiral Charles Style told reporters that the Iranians gave a position on Sunday -- a location he said was in Iraqi waters.

By Tuesday, Iranian officials had revised that position eastwards by 2 miles, placing the group inside Iranian waters -- a claim he said was not verified by GPS coordinates.
Re: When will the US attack Iran? [message #252045] Wed, 28 March 2007 05:20 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I agree with Blazer.

There is NO British screwup regarding the exact location of the incident. It happened in Iraqi waters and they were "ambushed" by the Iranians.

It's their Grand Asstolla Big Man ordering shit to happen. I hope they pay the price.

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