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Dave Anderson
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My parents computer at one point had somewhere around 18,000 infections and after the virus scan was completed and deleted the infections, they all came back so they ended up doing a reformat.
As for Vista, according to reviews on Newegg and other places, it has horrible driver support, some programs will not work, and things crash. Also mentioned was that its not worth it due to the huge memory consumption (2GB just to run smooth), and the only good thing about it so far is that it has a new and better file system.
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| Re: HeHe Anyone Every See Anything Like This? [message #241539 is a reply to message #241538] |
Sat, 27 January 2007 11:42 |
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| Dave Anderson wrote on Sat, 27 January 2007 12:41 |
My parents computer at one point had somewhere around 18,000 infections and after the virus scan was completed and deleted the infections, they all came back so they ended up doing a reformat.
As for Vista, according to reviews on Newegg and other places, it has horrible driver support, some programs will not work, and things crash. Also mentioned was that its not worth it due to the huge memory consumption (2GB just to run smooth), and the only good thing about it so far is that it has a new and better file system.
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Well, what can you expect three days before it's actually released?
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| Re: HeHe Anyone Every See Anything Like This? [message #241542 is a reply to message #241520] |
Sat, 27 January 2007 11:52 |
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Coulda been a replicating virus.
I had one once that would just keep copying itself over and over within a folder, so although it was just one, it showed up as a few thousand...
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| Re: HeHe Anyone Every See Anything Like This? [message #241550 is a reply to message #241520] |
Sat, 27 January 2007 12:59 |
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My old PC wouldn't have been able to handle the "eyecandy" not to mention the 20GB (That the right size of Vista?) would have been half of my HDD (yep, 40 GB HDD, those were the days...)
Developers are making the mistake that everyone uses uber speed hardware, were it not for the weather, I'd still be using 768 MB of SDRAM with an AGP 4X graphics card and an Intel 845G chipset (yes, the old Socket 478 square block heatsink one)
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| Re: HeHe Anyone Every See Anything Like This? [message #241645 is a reply to message #241520] |
Sat, 27 January 2007 19:25 |
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bandie63
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What staples do you work at? I'm at 141. Your IP says you're from NB, what store? Also, I was doing the vista plano today too! In the tech center, we had a pc that we found something like 20k threats with Windows Defender .
Also, my coworker is gonna take that big mouse from the Office 2007 endcap and make a halloween mask from it. Or so he thinks 
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| Re: HeHe Anyone Every See Anything Like This? [message #241657 is a reply to message #241542] |
Sat, 27 January 2007 19:37 |
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| SlikRik19 wrote on Sat, 27 January 2007 12:52 |
Coulda been a replicating virus.
I had one once that would just keep copying itself over and over within a folder, so although it was just one, it showed up as a few thousand...
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| Re: HeHe Anyone Every See Anything Like This? [message #241664 is a reply to message #241539] |
Sat, 27 January 2007 19:54 |
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| cmatt42 wrote on Sat, 27 January 2007 10:42 |
| Dave Anderson wrote on Sat, 27 January 2007 12:41 |
My parents computer at one point had somewhere around 18,000 infections and after the virus scan was completed and deleted the infections, they all came back so they ended up doing a reformat.
As for Vista, according to reviews on Newegg and other places, it has horrible driver support, some programs will not work, and things crash. Also mentioned was that its not worth it due to the huge memory consumption (2GB just to run smooth), and the only good thing about it so far is that it has a new and better file system.
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Well, what can you expect three days before it's actually released?
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You think they will fix all of that in three days?
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| Re: HeHe Anyone Every See Anything Like This? [message #241679 is a reply to message #241520] |
Sat, 27 January 2007 20:38 |
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i had this trial thing from the net once, it detected like 40 000 threats, but you had to but the program to remove them. twas on a friends comp that was alwyas a piece of crap
i runspybot s&s and find a small window behind the main program with the same title at the top, but the window is see-through. maybe its been rigged by somedin
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| Re: HeHe Anyone Every See Anything Like This? [message #241693 is a reply to message #241550] |
Sat, 27 January 2007 22:36 |
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| CarrierII wrote on Sat, 27 January 2007 12:59 |
Developers are making the mistake that everyone uses uber speed hardware
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I absolutely agree with that. It's ridiculous. Not only do many developers think everyone has a l33tbox of pwnage, but they also think that their little programs are the only programs that are going to be running. So what's the consequences? You get massive amounts of memory, CPU, and network usage and no *REAL* speed increases compared to machines that could do the exact same thing 10 years ago in (quite literally) the same amount of time.
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| Re: HeHe Anyone Every See Anything Like This? [message #241707 is a reply to message #241520] |
Sat, 27 January 2007 23:56 |
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What's really retarded is how manufactures love to discontinue hardware as soon as something new comes out. It screws over anyone who has a pretty old system and is looking to do some not-so-major upgrades because of not having the money for a whole new fast computer. It really pisses me off how it's almost impossible to get any socket 939 or 754 motherboards anywhere unless you look on places like Ebay, which usually has used hardware without any warranties. So much for everyone saying that socket 939 wouldn't die for a long time.
The stuff they discontinue isn't even that bad at all. It's still pretty powerful hardware. It's human nature to throw out too much.
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| Re: HeHe Anyone Every See Anything Like This? [message #241720 is a reply to message #241520] |
Sun, 28 January 2007 01:07 |
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Dave Anderson
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I know what you mean. I had a difficult time finding a good socket 478 motherboard. The MSI motherboard you had linked me too was discontinued before I was able to buy it, and I ended up searching a long time for another good motherboard. Its a pity when they discontinue hardware like that, they actually lose a lot of money from legacy builders.
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| Re: HeHe Anyone Every See Anything Like This? [message #241752 is a reply to message #241538] |
Sun, 28 January 2007 07:25 |
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| Dave Anderson wrote on Sat, 27 January 2007 14:41 |
As for Vista, according to reviews on Newegg and other places, it has horrible driver support, some programs will not work, and things crash. Also mentioned was that its not worth it due to the huge memory consumption (2GB just to run smooth), and the only good thing about it so far is that it has a new and better file system.
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Not true really. We've already got a Toshiba Laptop with Vista on it in the staff room. It's only got a gb of RAM, and it's fine. (Mind you, it idles at about 512mb used) 2gb is overkill. And yes, this is with it running Aero. It's a damn fine operating system. Some big changes in the way of finding your way around, but once you get used to it, it's nice.
I don't know about driver support, because we haven't installed anything on it, but I don't think it will be that bad. Once Vista officially comes out, I imagine companies will be putting out many new drivers.
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| Re: HeHe Anyone Every See Anything Like This? [message #241767 is a reply to message #241520] |
Sun, 28 January 2007 09:22 |
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Dave Anderson
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It's only got a gb of RAM, and it's fine. (Mind you, it idles at about 512mb used) 2gb is overkill.
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However, I don't think that will nearly be enough RAM for heavy multitaskers such as developers or people who play games. Of course it will run fine idle with 512MB used, you're not doing anything and its just the operating system running. If your playing a game like FEAR for example, that 1GB of RAM isn't going to help you much.
Though, it completely depends on what you plan to use Vista for, but I truly doubt that 1GB of RAM will suffice the majority of the end users who use Vista.
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| Re: HeHe Anyone Every See Anything Like This? [message #241770 is a reply to message #241767] |
Sun, 28 January 2007 09:37 |
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| Dave Anderson wrote on Sun, 28 January 2007 12:22 |
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It's only got a gb of RAM, and it's fine. (Mind you, it idles at about 512mb used) 2gb is overkill.
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However, I don't think that will nearly be enough RAM for heavy multitaskers such as developers or people who play games. Of course it will run fine idle with 512MB used, you're not doing anything and its just the operating system running. If your playing a game like FEAR for example, that 1GB of RAM isn't going to help you much.
Though, it completely depends on what you plan to use Vista for, but I truly doubt that 1GB of RAM will suffice the majority of the end users who use Vista.
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I thought you were just talking about making it run smooth.
And remember, people were probably saying 1gb of RAM was OMGamazing back in the Windows 98 days. The hardware will rise up to meet the software. When I got the PC I'm using now, it had 512mb or RAM, and that was wicked. ~4 years later, 2gb isn't that uncommon (I have 1 gig in it now). 1 GB has been pretty standard for a while now. By the time there's a reason to upgrade to Vista besides making your ePenis bigger, then I'm sure a PC with 2gb of RAM will be common.
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| Re: HeHe Anyone Every See Anything Like This? [message #241781 is a reply to message #241520] |
Sun, 28 January 2007 10:22 |
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Dave Anderson
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I thought you were just talking about making it run smooth.
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Vista isn't going to run smooth if you run out of RAM while running software applications.
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And remember, people were probably saying 1gb of RAM was OMGamazing back in the Windows 98 days. The hardware will rise up to meet the software. When I got the PC I'm using now, it had 512mb or RAM, and that was wicked. ~4 years later, 2gb isn't that uncommon (I have 1 gig in it now). 1 GB has been pretty standard for a while now. By the time there's a reason to upgrade to Vista besides making your ePenis bigger, then I'm sure a PC with 2gb of RAM will be common.
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You're forgetting that not everyone has the funds to get 2GB of RAM. 2GB of RAM for a good set still costs around $250-$350 depending on the quality and brand and even 1GB of RAM still ranges ~$120. And not everyone is going to upgrade their hardware right away to "rise up to the software", especially when both the hardware needed and software application are expensive.
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It will be eventually. The prices on electronics come down remarkably fast. What you pay for 2gb right now will be able to buy you 4 gb eventually.
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Then they develop a new kind of RAM that is supposedly the newest, greatest thing that everyone must have. Then the price is right back where it started, high-dollar.
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| Re: HeHe Anyone Every See Anything Like This? [message #241840 is a reply to message #241781] |
Sun, 28 January 2007 13:26 |
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| Dave Anderson wrote on Sun, 28 January 2007 13:22 |
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It will be eventually. The prices on electronics come down remarkably fast. What you pay for 2gb right now will be able to buy you 4 gb eventually.
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Then they develop a new kind of RAM that is supposedly the newest, greatest thing that everyone must have. Then the price is right back where it started, high-dollar.
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Yes, but it's not like the old stuff ceases to exist. And it's not like Vista will morph to need 4gb of RAM just out of spite. 2gb is 2gb (yeah, I know, lol clockspeeds or whatever. But the stuff that's out now will be fine. Just cause something becomes obsolete doesn't mean that its performance becomes any worse.). The price will go down, and obviously, something will replace it, but that doesn't mean you have to use the new stuff.
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| Re: HeHe Anyone Every See Anything Like This? [message #241844 is a reply to message #241520] |
Sun, 28 January 2007 13:38 |
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I have 1GB of memory and I wish I had 2GB. It's not so that I can look cool, it's because I actually need it. I'm only running Windows XP and I don't plan to go to Vista until there are a few DirectX 10 games out that I really want.
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| Re: HeHe Anyone Every See Anything Like This? [message #241847 is a reply to message #241520] |
Sun, 28 January 2007 13:45 |
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Dave Anderson
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Yes, but it's not like the old stuff ceases to exist.
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Some legacy parts cost more than new parts due to lack of supply.
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And it's not like Vista will morph to need 4gb of RAM just out of spite.
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I never said it would, I was reinforcing the fact that 1 gigabyte of RAM will most likely not be enough for the majority of users who will buy Vista.
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Just cause something becomes obsolete doesn't mean that its performance becomes any worse.).
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I never said the performance would become any worse. I have many discontinued and obsolete parts in my computer and they run the newest of applications just fine.
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The price will go down, and obviously, something will replace it, but that doesn't mean you have to use the new stuff.
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When new hardware comes out and it is the latest and greatest thing, we all know that software developers target the new goodies. So in the end, if you want the newer software, you're going to end up buying newer hardware.
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