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| Re: jschultz9/{WG}sm0ke convicted cheating. [message #231942 is a reply to message #231937] |
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| trooprm02 wrote on Sat, 25 November 2006 15:55 |
| StoneCold wrote on Sat, 25 November 2006 08:27 |
Guys this is StoneCold from {WG} i do not cheat... i have never cheated b 4 in the past if at n e time u want proof just test me and i will take it no questions so dont go on sayin im a hacker and if u want to no the reason i got kicked out of -BiO- it was for my attitude (Bad one) and if u dont think so u can ask Tigger, Cat, Cereal Killer (leader), and prob n e member of BiO who nos i didnt post b 4 cause i didnt no this topic existed so here
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Quite funny actually...something quite different was said on the BiO forums by the same people you mentioned above (will post link when I find the thread again).
Then, the guy who posted right after you ("tskillz"), who says is not in {WG} althought is on their site/forums, and sure acts like it, brings up more alligations of you cheating on the {WG} forums?
Exactly, {WG} FTW 
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Funny? wheres my joke i dont c it n e where w/e nub im just posted wat i had to say i dont care if people think i cheat do they have n e proof? n e evidence? besides no i say u cheat !!! the thing with sm0ke gratz and just to let u no how much n e person here cares bout this subject n e more nobody does and if u had n e brains u would go ask Cereal Killer personally about me gettin "kicked out of BiO" i was never kicked out for hacking and if i was i was never told about wat "hacks" it was never tested never proved just a opinion not fact my attitude was fact and i admit even now that it was very bad so like i said b 4 ask Tigger Cat etc... about me and they will tell u so dont go round sayin BS about me cause i dont give a fuck who u are u have no right to do that
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| Re: jschultz9/{WG}sm0ke convicted cheating. [message #231984 is a reply to message #231937] |
Sun, 26 November 2006 04:59 |
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| trooprm02 wrote on Sat, 25 November 2006 22:55 |
Then, the guy who posted right after you ("tskillz"), who says is not in {WG} althought is on their site/forums, and sure acts like it, brings up more alligations of you cheating on the {WG} forums?
Exactly, {WG} FTW
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I'm registered on WG's forums...does that make me a cheater aswell?
You seriously are getting more retarded the more time passes.
TsKizzle was in WG, but quit...which will explain him being on the site.
Trooprm02 just drop this shit...seriously.
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| Re: jschultz9/{WG}sm0ke convicted cheating. [message #232095 is a reply to message #231698] |
Sun, 26 November 2006 22:28 |
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| Acey#GW wrote on Thu, 23 November 2006 13:11 |
In fact, you think GW can make tanks disappear. Now thats some fucking cheat ain't it?
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Apparently it's just a glitch, the kind of glitch that only happens once during 1850 hours of renegade playing, and purely by chance saves an opponent's Weapons Factory. Now that's some fucking glitch ain't it?
| Stonecold wrote this, and he was correct |
if u want to no the reason i got kicked out of -BiO- it was for my attitude (Bad one)
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| Re: jschultz9/{WG}sm0ke convicted cheating. [message #232133 is a reply to message #230128] |
Mon, 27 November 2006 05:24 |
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Obviously you don't play Field much then in those 1850 hours of renegade.
Its blindly obvious that BiO can't appreciate there are better clans than them out there, they just think they must be using some kind of cheat.
Even the GSA Demo clans are better than BiO. 
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| Re: jschultz9/{WG}sm0ke convicted cheating. [message #232137 is a reply to message #230128] |
Mon, 27 November 2006 06:41 |
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Some GW members got blue screen I heard that game, it must have been bio!
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: jschultz9/{WG}sm0ke convicted cheating. [message #232148 is a reply to message #230128] |
Mon, 27 November 2006 09:04 |
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Your clan bring it on themselves.
Don't make out me or anyone else are picking on yourselves for no reason.
You know full well why... GW don't even hate your clan, we just think BiO are pathetic for using every excuse possible.
I bet even when the new RG comes out, you will be accusing various clans of cheating etc.
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| Re: jschultz9/{WG}sm0ke convicted cheating. [message #232169 is a reply to message #232095] |
Mon, 27 November 2006 13:32 |
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-BiO-Tigger0jk wrote on Sun, 26 November 2006 23:28
[quote title=Stonecold wrote this, and he was correct |
if u want to no the reason i got kicked out of -BiO- it was for my attitude (Bad one)
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so as u c troop i was correct and u are wrong so back off me on the accusations if u dont mind
BiO is a good teamplaying clan they play very well together cause they ve been together for a long time but what i can say about them is that they jump to conclusions to fast some times they b right other times they arent this game has many glitches and it sux that they happen but nothing is perfect no matter how many times RG is updated it will never be perfect people will always find ways through it
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| Re: jschultz9/{WG}sm0ke convicted cheating. [message #232170 is a reply to message #230128] |
Mon, 27 November 2006 13:36 |
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Opinions vary...
I could explain the situation, so everyone could see why we thought there was a cheat in that war, but what's the point?
It was like 8 months ago, get over it.
BiO's opinion doesn't matter, I mean everyone knows GW doesnt cheat. Well except for those admins on all the GSA servers you guys are banned from for cheating. They are all just n00bs like us........you guys are all pure skill, and just all around GOOD PEOPLE.
One day I hope to be a player of your caliber and sportsmanship.
Your my HERO!! 
Shhh.........die quietly!
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| Re: jschultz9/{WG}sm0ke convicted cheating. [message #232180 is a reply to message #230128] |
Mon, 27 November 2006 15:06 |
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Mitch, you used to be much cooler back in the day ... when BiO was much "fresher" and a little more respectable. I used to play with you on pub servers years ago and you were a good player. I don't know why you have let BiO become such a disgrace in the community. Some of BiO's previous players are good players - and it seems that they finally snap out of it and leave because they realize there is no potential in your clan.
If you would stop accusing everyone of cheating and start playing more clanwars you'd be on top of half these clans and a lot more respectable. But instead you choose to find excuses and fallacies in everything.
#GW is a good clan. BiO's first mistake is that they don't play many clanwars (if any). Your second mistake is being a GSA-based clan. Get your asses on some of the WOL public servers and register on clanwars.cc.
I know you don't care for me and you don't listen to half the things that come out of my mouth ... but maybe if you did your clan would actually become something other than the mockery of the entire C&C: Renegade community.
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| Re: jschultz9/{WG}sm0ke convicted cheating. [message #232185 is a reply to message #232170] |
Mon, 27 November 2006 15:44 |
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| -BiO-Cereal_Killer wrote on Mon, 27 November 2006 14:36 |
Opinions vary...
I could explain the situation, so everyone could see why we thought there was a cheat in that war, but what's the point?
It was like 8 months ago, get over it.
BiO's opinion doesn't matter, I mean everyone knows GW doesnt cheat. Well except for those admins on all the GSA servers you guys are banned from for cheating. They are all just n00bs like us........you guys are all pure skill, and just all around GOOD PEOPLE.
One day I hope to be a player of your caliber and sportsmanship.
Your my HERO!!
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1. Players having their tanks disappear has happened in renegade thousands of times. Anyone *here* never had their tank disappear and you were suddenly at a spawn point?
2. As it says, you were playing 6v5 against them the entire game, which just shows quality
3. Even if there was some "cheat" that somehow made players have glitches like this whenever they want to (I haven't seen anything like it, but then again you must obviously know every cheat) Anyways, even if there was some cheat that did this, what would it have mattered. O.K say you would have killed the War factory, the end game screenshot says you were down by 5200 points (remember this is just the map, not the series of games) Even IF you did kill the warfactory, what would you have done? Rush the AGT? I don't know about you but the last time I've seen a team rush another team on a base defence map and they all have tanks, that rush will not last very long. Let's say that EVEN IF YOU SOMEHOW MAGICALLY GOT THE FACTORY, AND THEN SOMEHOW PULLED OUT KILLING THE AGT AND THEIR WHOLE BASE (for the sake of argument) Would that have changed the outcome of the match? No, because they won the other three maps by base destruction.
Speaking of 'cheating', wouldn't you know it? smoke was playing in the game! But it's besides the point because there are no cheats that make you lose vehicles. The guy in question just had the glitch where if you bump into something your tank disappears. This is common in renegade, and could probably be done again if you kept trying. But as far as being stubborn about you believing people cheat, you're the worse.
Remember the one game I had playing in your server. You know the one, you ob-walked and killed the obelisk on field while I was in the field with an arty. Y'see, back then Cereal thought it was O.K to have ob-walking, even after my reasoning with logic that it gives a significant advantage to GDI. Then again, CK never really was one for logic. Besides the point, even after laming it by ob-walking to kill the obelisk, my team (miraculously) managed to defend the base from infantry while I sat outside in the field and held back tanks and tanks. Of course, CK, being the clan-war experienced player he was, bought APCs and tried reaching my base via running straight on. No, he wasn't smart enough to actually STOP, or dodge my shots. All I had to do was lead every single shot and I hit him, and he didn't make it. When his APC died I killed him and though he says he was not in view (Even though I knew he was, since I was the one looking at him, and he wasn't looking at me...), he said I killed him behind the wall (which I could easily do well enough anyways because of splash damage).
Anyways, for months and months he said I cheated, and to this day you still think I cheat, despite me having to download Blazedragoons anti-cheat 4.2 and went on your server to show that I could everything I did that day with his anti-cheat. The only thing I couldn't do was you saying I killed you when you were by your AGT and you had full health and I was an art by the hill. I know you were lying when you said you were by the AGT, so I didn't really care, you said I was alright anyways.
Anyways, whatever, you must cheat because you got banned from fnfalls before. Y'see, moderators can't ever be wrong. They know everything about renegade. You were really CHEATING that game, right? Because moderators are perfect and they all know the damage a unit does. Unlike people like me. Oh wait. Honestly I don't even know why some of these admins make these people moderators. I understand that people have to check me for cheats because some new guy says I'm cheating. to someone new, something like getting even 5 headshots in a row is impossible. And you know what? Every single time a moderator tells me that I cheat, i am perfectly willing to do a test to prove them wrong. Even when they're lunatics like you who think it's some ungodly power to kill an APC before it reaches the nod base on Field.
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: jschultz9/{WG}sm0ke convicted cheating. [message #232190 is a reply to message #232182] |
Mon, 27 November 2006 16:11 |
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| DaN#GW wrote on Mon, 27 November 2006 16:18 |
| MrWiggles wrote on Mon, 27 November 2006 22:16 |
lol if BiO thinks GW cheat, they should play Wrs, Kill and SS from h20 in a 3v3, man i can taste the tears already...
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Do they play on Clanwars.cc ? if they do then id love to play them and even if i get owned then maybe ill learn somethin so im gonna register on clanwars.cc may b u should to BiO u never no who u'll beat or lose to or maybe u wil learn something btw who are Wrs Kill and SS from h20?
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| Re: jschultz9/{WG}sm0ke convicted cheating. [message #232199 is a reply to message #232190] |
Mon, 27 November 2006 18:19 |
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| StoneCold wrote on Mon, 27 November 2006 17:11 |
Do they play on Clanwars.cc ? if they do then id love to play them and even if i get owned then maybe ill learn somethin so im gonna register on clanwars.cc may b u should to BiO u never no who u'll beat or lose to or maybe u wil learn something btw who are Wrs Kill and SS from h20?
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Their warrior names (i.e. the names they play clan games with on the league) are HeyItsWrs, IsItInY0u, and H2Hitler.
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| Re: jschultz9/{WG}sm0ke convicted cheating. [message #232226 is a reply to message #232095] |
Mon, 27 November 2006 22:22 |
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| -BiO-Tigger0jk wrote on Sun, 26 November 2006 21:28 |
Apparently it's just a glitch, the kind of glitch that only happens once during 1850 hours of renegade playing, and purely by chance saves an opponent's Weapons Factory. Now that's some fucking glitch ain't it?
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Sorry, I intended this to be a little more open-ended than you guys took it. I wanted to explain that it's only happened to me once, and in that situation, which is crazy odds (some of you might even agree). That is not a reasonable way to accuse someone of cheating (or a group of people), and I now realize that. I was trying to draw a little context for my unsubstantiated finger-pointing. However, as De7 points out, there is little motive for this "cheating" (impossible as it is), as it would not have changed the outcome of the war.
On the clanwars.cc topic, we actually just started getting set up with it, and we're still in the process of forming (clan is made, but not all the members have joined yet). That was what CK was referring to when he said "cya soon"
Noob question: are wars for clanwars.cc played on WOL? Because my WOL for ren has never worked and while I assume it's quite fixable, if they are on WOL I need to get on that.
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| Re: jschultz9/{WG}sm0ke convicted cheating. [message #232228 is a reply to message #230128] |
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In fact, GSA is slightly preferable to XWIS/WOL since you can properly use clan tags.
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