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| Re: Global warming [message #218898 is a reply to message #218778] |
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| help-linux wrote on Mon, 11 September 2006 12:30 |
no matter how many greenhouse gasses you remove from th atmophere it is still going to happen.
has anyone seen the film "the day after tmorrow"? that is a film all about it.
also lets not turn this into flame wars and keep it a discussion please.
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You can't honestly bring a fictional movie into a debate.
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| Re: Global warming [message #219083 is a reply to message #218605] |
Tue, 12 September 2006 17:05 |
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I seem to remember reading somewhere that the Earth's axial tilt tends to 'wobble' slightly (like, by feet every other decade, or something, nothing severe). Since the tilt of the Earth greatly determines surface climate, I dunno...
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| Re: Global warming [message #219511 is a reply to message #218605] |
Thu, 14 September 2006 16:03 |
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It's FICTIONAL. It is quite clearly a scare tactic created by someone with an agenda and too much money. There was very little factual information in that movie.
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| Re: Global warming [message #219521 is a reply to message #219515] |
Thu, 14 September 2006 16:25 |
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| help-linux wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 19:15 |
| Crimson wrote on Fri, 15 September 2006 00:03 |
It's FICTIONAL. It is quite clearly a scare tactic created by someone with an agenda and too much money. There was very little factual information in that movie.
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what i am saying is that i have belived things that could happen before the movie came out, and so it happens some these things were in the movie when it did.
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People believe that extra terrestrial's are going to come and attack the Earth, and there have been movies made about that. Does that mean that it justifies any of the claims for ETs attacking us?
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| Re: Global warming [message #219531 is a reply to message #219524] |
Thu, 14 September 2006 18:03 |
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The theory of "Global Warming" is stupid. Just think, in about 30-100 years they will be complaining about "Global Cooling".
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| Re: Global warming [message #219577 is a reply to message #218708] |
Fri, 15 September 2006 00:15 |
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| Scythar wrote on Mon, 11 September 2006 11:08 |
I don't think anyone here is claiming that. The original poster asked whether we think the climate is warming, which it is. We're not arguing who's causing it as far as I know.
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| Re: Global warming [message #219670 is a reply to message #218605] |
Fri, 15 September 2006 10:26 |
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Global warming? No. Global climate shifts? It's happened. Apparently, at one point in time, the Earth had a slightly more torrid climate, but some cataclysmic event (seismic upheaval causing massive flooding, meteor, what have you...), changed the climate a bit. Anywho, I saved my notes from my topography course. A change in the Earth's axial tilt in one direction by only a few degrees could cause an Ice Age. At the same time, a tilt in the other direction could bake the surface of the Earth into oblivion.
So to be safe, don't just slam down into the back of your couch. Slide into it slowly and you could prevent the Apocalypse! 
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| Re: Global warming [message #219879 is a reply to message #218778] |
Sat, 16 September 2006 12:31 |
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| help-linux wrote on Mon, 11 September 2006 14:30 |
no matter how many greenhouse gasses you remove from th atmophere it is still going to happen.
has anyone seen the film "the day after tmorrow"? that is a film all about it.
also lets not turn this into flame wars and keep it a discussion please.
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I've seen Two Days Before The Day After Tomorrow.
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| Re: Global warming [message #222319 is a reply to message #218605] |
Mon, 25 September 2006 20:46 |
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Which is why, in 2004, our wonderful government included in the budget, $19 million dollars to study the effects of cow flatulance...
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| Re: Global warming [message #222545 is a reply to message #222303] |
Tue, 26 September 2006 15:02 |
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| Steppo wrote on Mon, 25 September 2006 20:31 |
Just so you guys know, there's more CO2 coming out of limestone and shale beneath your feet than ANYTHING that we could produce.
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I think the idea is that limestone, shale, cows, etc. + (nothing else) = one "natural release" number, but
limestone, shale, cows, etc. + (everything else) = much greater "excessive release" number, which is related to everyone's concerns.
Yes, others things do it naturally, but that's just it... it's done naturally, and is a "normal" occurance. Adding to that is what people are concerned about.
Example:
Simply to use random numbers for simplicity's sake, lets say the Earth can handle 100 units of CO2 before a "Global Warming" occurs.
Let's combine all the natural sources of CO2, and make it equal to 1 unit released per year. That means it will take 100 years for Global Warming to occur.
Let's now combine all the artifical sources of CO2 and make it equal to 1 unit. By themselves, it also means it will take 100 years for Global Warming to occur.
Not that big of a deal, right? One thing that's missing though:
Because both are occuring simultaneously, we need to add them together. 1 unit of natural + 1 unit of artifical = 2 units released every year. It now only takes 50 years instead of 100 for Global Warming to occur.
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| Re: Global warming [message #222573 is a reply to message #222545] |
Tue, 26 September 2006 16:51 |
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| warranto wrote on Tue, 26 September 2006 23:02 |
| Steppo wrote on Mon, 25 September 2006 20:31 |
Just so you guys know, there's more CO2 coming out of limestone and shale beneath your feet than ANYTHING that we could produce.
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I think the idea is that limestone, shale, cows, etc. + (nothing else) = one "natural release" number, but
limestone, shale, cows, etc. + (everything else) = much greater "excessive release" number, which is related to everyone's concerns.
Yes, others things do it naturally, but that's just it... it's done naturally, and is a "normal" occurance. Adding to that is what people are concerned about.
Example:
Simply to use random numbers for simplicity's sake, lets say the Earth can handle 100 units of CO2 before a "Global Warming" occurs.
Let's combine all the natural sources of CO2, and make it equal to 1 unit released per year. That means it will take 100 years for Global Warming to occur.
Let's now combine all the artifical sources of CO2 and make it equal to 1 unit. By themselves, it also means it will take 100 years for Global Warming to occur.
Not that big of a deal, right? One thing that's missing though:
Because both are occuring simultaneously, we need to add them together. 1 unit of natural + 1 unit of artifical = 2 units released every year. It now only takes 50 years instead of 100 for Global Warming to occur.
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not only that:
100U = earth
-1U = trees plants
1.5U = nateral release
1U = our realeas
but also if a global warming does accur and we go into an ice-age this is reset. all we are doing is speeding up how long it will take.
some scientists think that we are in a ice age now because it was alot warmer 1000000's of years ago
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| Re: Global warming [message #222583 is a reply to message #218605] |
Tue, 26 September 2006 17:27 |
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An ice age now? That is weird.. Where did you hear that at?
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| Re: Global warming [message #222625 is a reply to message #218605] |
Tue, 26 September 2006 19:16 |
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Dave Anderson
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I suppose it is possible, and could be happening as we speak. I would think though that it will not happen in my lifetime. It just seems a bit silly to hear people speaking of an ice age when they are talking about global warming. It doesn't seem to add up.
David Anderson
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