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| stupid racist bastards [message #20494] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 12:13   |
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| John Shaft Jr. |
2. Now Racism can be in any form or fashion. One of the definition is what Sir Phoenix had said. But Racism can go way beyond that. Racism can be in many ways. For example: You know people would try to explain they are not racist and say something like, “Oh I’m not racist. I had three black people over to my house.” or “I’m not racist because I have three white friends.” or “I’m not racist because I hired 3 Puerto Ricans to work for me just yesterday.” or “I have a Asian girlfriend.” Now that’s racism. Because it wasn’t racism, you wouldn’t be dicing a race up in groups and counting how many friends you have from every race group out there. You would just say, “Well I have 23 best friends” or “I hired 3 people yesterday.” Because really it should not matter what friends from any race group you or who you date. But see people do it anyway cause its human nature to do it. Been doing it for so many years now. Why stop? I know it’s the right thing to do, but people are not going to stop doing it.
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So, someone's racist if in their defence to being accused of being racist, they say that they have friends from different races? How is that racism? How is having friends from different races, being racist?
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20495] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 12:15 |
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IceSword7
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lmao i really aint that racist ill call people a nigger every once in a while but i really only said it to piss the faggot n00bs on this fucking site.
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20496] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 12:24 |
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Aircraftkiller
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| joroe34 |
It scares me to know that people with ACK's mentality exist. They attempt to justify their ignorance by making statements that "everyone is racist." No ACK, I am not racist. I can say this because for two years I was on the other side. The one who was being discriminated against. I lived in a Country where Americans in the militarty were hated. I could not go into certain resteraunts, clubs etc... I could not shop in certain stores and the natives did their best to avoid having contact with me. It was known that the Natives thought Americans smelled funny and worried that we would come out at night to rape their children. I must say, it really sucked. It was an eye opener. So ACK, I challenge you. Grow up! Join the US Army, request deployment to the Middle East, live there for a year. And lets see if you will still be so ignorant. In other words... put yourself in the mexican's shoes.
Just my thought.
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No, what's sad is that you use the liberal tactic called "I'll attack you in the hopes that your point gets lost in a sea of insult."
You're not racist because you went overseas? What does that have to do with anything? I've been to Mexico. I lived there, in Mexico City, amongst the people. I would see smog clouds floating down the street every morning, every person smelled like a sack of shit, and the only clean people were the ones who worked for hotels or had a decent job.
The rest didn't even seem to care about the squalor they lived in. You see some people coming up to you covered in filth, trying to socialize... right. I don't think so.
I don't really care if you've been overseas or not. That means nothing to me other than the fact that you helped defend this country.
I'm not going down the street yelling "I HATE MEXICANS" or whatever. I simply dislike Mexicans and anyone who smells like rice and beans. I fucking hate that smell when I'm trying to walk somewhere in public... You know how irritating it is to be walking around in a city, head to the mall, sit in the food court... Then some Mexican guy sits across from you and all you can smell is rice and beans instead of the food you're trying to fucking eat!?
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20498] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 12:37 |
joroe34
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Ok, ack let me type slower so you can understand.
All I said was put yourself in the situation where you would be discriminated against. And then come talk to me. It does not sound like you felt discriminated against when living in Mexico. What it sounds like, is you just hated it there, because of the filth? What does that have to do with hating all mexicans?
About being liberal. Not true, actually, I am a moderate. For me, I like to treat people with respect, no matter their situation. Another thing ACK, eventhough I was treated like shit by the most of the Natives where I was serving, I do not condem them all or the people of that nationality I meet here in the states today.
Again ack, just my opinion.
We have two ears but only one mouth. So that we can listen more and talk less.
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20501] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 12:50 |
HTDana
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Now we're really getting away from talking about Renegade...this will be my last post on this topic.
ACK, calling "I'll attack you in the hopes that your point gets lost in a sea of insult" a "liberal tactic" sounds like the same sort of smearing you claim to oppose. Are you about to announce a shift in politics, ACK?  Saying "tactic" alone would have worked, but being "liberal" has nothing to do with one's style of argument. Hollow rhetoric belongs to anyone who wants to use it. *again climbing down from the soapbox, this time for good*
Have a good one, all.
HTDana
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20503] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 12:55 |
joroe34
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Ahh ack I dont want you to bend over, I just want you to be a nice guy. Because when you become a nice guy you may make others around you nice. As for whining, nah, dont think I am whining. Just giving a view point different than yours. I know it can be uncomfortable walking through different neighborhoods in this country. That is what we need to change, I think. Question is how? My guess, I can control myself, so the change starts with me. I chose to not let people like you spout off with out being challenged to think differently. Or are you happy being called a honkey, cracker and such?
ok ack you can stop bending over now.
We have two ears but only one mouth. So that we can listen more and talk less.
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20515] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 13:31 |
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Slicer_238
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hahaha. You know whats funny is when a black person calls another black person a nigger. Its funny as hell because they think it means brother, friend, or buddy when it really means no good sac kof shit. It always brings a laugh to me.
May Trey rest in forever bliss and happiness.
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20544] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 14:49 |
Afromn96
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actually niger really means like black in another language but people use it as a racist cutdown. i understand that there is prejudice and all but do u really have 2 have a chatroom called "if u got a nigger i got a rope" that isnt just prejudice that is murder and it is fuckin screrwed up.
AFRO_MAN96 [wol names:Afromn96, sicilian69]
"you mess with the fro you got to go"
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20591] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 18:54 |
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Crimson
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I moved this to the Politics forum where this discussion is more appropriate. IceSword7 is banned, however.
I'm the bawss.
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20600] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 19:08 |
Afromn96
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im not that upset with the word nigger but i am extremely angery at this"if u got a nigger i got a rope" and thanx crimson 4 banning icesword
AFRO_MAN96 [wol names:Afromn96, sicilian69]
"you mess with the fro you got to go"
-Eddie Griffin
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20658] |
Thu, 15 May 2003 06:54 |
reptokill
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| Aircraftkiller |
Perhaps you need to open your eyes... Discrimination is a part of life. It's a part of humanity. Stop whining about it and learn to deal with it. People aren't going to bend over to your will because you want everyone to get along.
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You are right, discrimination is a part of life. Racism isn't and even though racists discriminate I don't believe those 2 terms are the same.
Here's what Webster's World Dictionary thinks:
discriminate = to differentiate, to distinguish, to show partiality or prejudice
racism = the practice of racial discrimination, segregation ect.
We all discriminate in one form or another due to our human nature. There is no excuse for being a racist. There is no excuse for making racist remarks. There is not excuse for making general statements against one group of people.
I do believe that someone that went through certain circumstances in life (example: being yelled at every day by people of a certain race) would feel prejudiced against that group in general. However, the belief that all "blacks" or all "hispanics" are the same is ludicrous. If people of your own race did those things to you then you would feel prejudiced against those specific people and not the whole race.
I know people of all races that I like very much and I also know people of all races that I don't even want to talk to or be seen with.
My point I guess is don't generalize because no 2 people are the same and not everyone of a certain race is the same...
"iF YOU ALWAYS DO WHAT YOU ALWAYS DID, YOU ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU ALWAYS GOT"
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20664] |
Thu, 15 May 2003 08:43 |
John Shaft Jr.
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| Sir Phoenixx |
You said people, who in their defense say that they have friends from different races, are racist. This is completely contradictory. That is not racist in any way, shape or form.
Now who would appear to be more racist, a person who said he has friends from different races, or a person who only has friends from his race?
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I think you miss understood me. Ok let me read back what I said.
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Racism can be in many ways. For example: You know people would try to explain they are not racist and say something like
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Well this is probaly how they got losted at. Now let me explain. And this is the truth. You know how people that you would call racist and they would try to back it up with "Well I have such and such friends" but they still refer to black guy as "nigger" and Chinese as "Chink" or Puerto Rican as "spic" or Japanese as "Jap" or white guy as "cracker". Now if you wasn't racist you wouldn't refer to any race group with a racial slur. Thats who the people I was referring to. And there are some people ont he boards that do that.
I also was referring to the people that just blurt out how many friends from any race group they have. For example, "I have 5 white friends." or "I have a 6 black friends." And I'm saying to myself why you have to dice them up in groups and all. Why can't you just say, "I have 11 best freinds all together." But see all thru out the years people don't do that. They rather say I have such and such friends to make themselves not appear racist. Which that person may not be racist or anything. I'm just saying, you don't have to go and dice people up into groups and all.
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20786] |
Thu, 15 May 2003 17:46 |
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| John Shaft Jr. |
You know how people that you would call racist and they would try to back it up with "Well I have such and such friends" but they still refer to black guy as "nigger" and Chinese as "Chink" or Puerto Rican as "spic" or Japanese as "Jap" or white guy as "cracker". Now if you wasn't racist you wouldn't refer to any race group with a racial slur. Thats who the people I was referring to. And there are some people ont he boards that do that.
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In your other post you didn't say that, you didn't mention racial slurs.
All you said was that someone is racist if in their defense to being called a racist they said that they have black friends, chineese friends, or whatever.
| John Shaft Jr. |
I also was referring to the people that just blurt out how many friends from any race group they have. For example, "I have 5 white friends." or "I have a 6 black friends." And I'm saying to myself why you have to dice them up in groups and all. Why can't you just say, "I have 11 best freinds all together." But see all thru out the years people don't do that. They rather say I have such and such friends to make themselves not appear racist. Which that person may not be racist or anything. I'm just saying, you don't have to go and dice people up into groups and all.
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I don't know, or have seen anyone ever put their friends in groups by race when they were asked about how many friends they have. I've only seen people say that they have friends from certain races when ACCUSED OF BEING A RACIST. What better way to defend yourself when being called a racist then showing them that you do have friends of different races?
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20797] |
Thu, 15 May 2003 18:42 |
Afromn96
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i agree with Sir Pheonixx
AFRO_MAN96 [wol names:Afromn96, sicilian69]
"you mess with the fro you got to go"
-Eddie Griffin
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20830] |
Thu, 15 May 2003 19:41 |
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bigwig992
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Prejudice, yes, racist, no. I have no problem with someone of the other color, hell, I have plenty of friends of every color. It's their personality that gets to me. Yes, black kids can walk down the hall, dragging their feet, barely pronouncing words, and making funny noises trying to make beats to rap songs. So what? I've seen white's,mexicans, and asians all do the same thing. I hate all of them.
There's black, asian, mexican, irish, anyone, that skateboard, I love them. They share a common interest with me, so I like them.
A black person can be working a register at the mall, and be a complete asshole to you, so? Any other color could be just as mean.
A white man can randomly give you $50, but why couldn't a black man?
Basicly I think what I'm trying to say, is to me, it's not about the ethnic group, but the way they act. Serisouly? I think all the races around here are equal. It's the whole "ghetto kid" or "skater kid" or "dorky kid" or "prep kid" that people care about now. Color doesn't matter, it's who they are.
-The ONLY Renegade fan to pee off a school.
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