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Red Alert: A Path Beyond Update: Gap Generator + Special Effects [message #205448]

Sun, 25 June 2006 22:29

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Hey out there you Renegade-type people. I thought maybe you'd like a little update on our progress. We're currently working on the Gap Generator effect. You can go to our thread on the RA:APB forums to see just what kind of wackiness we're up to. The latest screenshots and media are located here. It's pretty cool, and a lot of you probably don't think what we're doing is even possible in Renegade. Guess what? It is.

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Re: Red Alert: A Path Beyond Update: Gap Generator + Special Effects [message #205458 is a reply to message #205448]

Mon, 26 June 2006 02:18

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Oh yes, how could we possible think that scriptzones that enable fog could exist! Oh magical man, please show us what else you can do with your fire stick and cloacking enabled on a model.

The V2 should of been using the model replace since day one.

oh and Gif Video = No

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Mon, 26 June 2006 05:24

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I like it. Quite an original concept. I havent seen anything like that before on the ren engine... At least I think so.. Dont Get It

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Re: Red Alert: A Path Beyond Update: Gap Generator + Special Effects [message #205502 is a reply to message #205458]

Mon, 26 June 2006 09:02

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Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 26 June 2006 05:18

Oh yes, how could we possible think that scriptzones that enable fog could exist! Oh magical man, please show us what else you can do with your fire stick and cloacking enabled on a model.

The V2 should of been using the model replace since day one.

oh and Gif Video = No

Oh yeah, this is why I don't post here anymore. I'm sorry that our speed of development isn't up to your standards, sire. I will try to improve myself for your benefit.

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Re: Red Alert: A Path Beyond Update: Gap Generator + Special Effects [message #205504 is a reply to message #205448]

Mon, 26 June 2006 09:07

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I don't like the look of a fog (The big black wirly thingy)

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Re: Red Alert: A Path Beyond Update: Gap Generator + Special Effects [message #205519 is a reply to message #205448]

Mon, 26 June 2006 10:37

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Wow, I'm loving what you guys are coming up with so far! Especially with the new gap effect. If Neo could add sparks/lightning above the gap generator like in the old RA manual... In Love

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What's the hit performance wise? Will the fog clear (at least for other Soviet units) when a unit is within the radius?

And why the hate? It's just supposed to be an update. No need to troll Oblivion. That fog doesn't look like the fog I've seen in Renegade before.

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Mon, 26 June 2006 10:51

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I have a bad computer, so I'm not really qualified to say how the performance is. It doesn't seem to run any worse than that map normally does for me.

As for your other question, the fog doesn't clear up until the Gap Generator is destroyed. It also cloaks Allied units so that they are only visible when they fire, similarly to Red Alert.

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Re: Red Alert: A Path Beyond Update: Gap Generator + Special Effects [message #205525 is a reply to message #205448]

Mon, 26 June 2006 12:35

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Would it be possible for the fog to clear just around the tank so that other (friendly Soviet) units can see the tank? Like it worked in RA.

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Re: Red Alert: A Path Beyond Update: Gap Generator + Special Effects [message #205529 is a reply to message #205448]

Mon, 26 June 2006 12:57

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As far as I know that isn't possible.

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Re: Red Alert: A Path Beyond Update: Gap Generator + Special Effects [message #205534 is a reply to message #205502]

Mon, 26 June 2006 13:42

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PointlessAmbler wrote on Mon, 26 June 2006 12:02

Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 26 June 2006 05:18

Oh yes, how could we possible think that scriptzones that enable fog could exist! Oh magical man, please show us what else you can do with your fire stick and cloacking enabled on a model.

The V2 should of been using the model replace since day one.

oh and Gif Video = No

Oh yeah, this is why I don't post here anymore. I'm sorry that our speed of development isn't up to your standards, sire. I will try to improve myself for your benefit.

It has nothing to do with your speed of development, I said nothing about that.

Just dont act like its something amazing and above what we can do.

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Re: Red Alert: A Path Beyond Update: Gap Generator + Special Effects [message #205536 is a reply to message #205448]

Mon, 26 June 2006 13:45

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Re: Red Alert: A Path Beyond Update: Gap Generator + Special Effects [message #205539 is a reply to message #205534]

Mon, 26 June 2006 13:52

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Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 26 June 2006 16:42

It has nothing to do with your speed of development, I said nothing about that.

Just dont act like its something amazing and above what we can do.

I personally think it is, and I would also like to know who "you all" are. It's something that was previously thought impossible; now we've shown that it isn't.

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Mon, 26 June 2006 14:01

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A fog effect in a central area? How was that impossible? You could do that with emitters if you had to.

As for speed, who cares, the mod is out there and its being worked on.

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Mon, 26 June 2006 14:28

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Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 26 June 2006 17:01

A fog effect in a central area? How was that impossible? You could do that with emitters if you had to.

As for speed, who cares, the mod is out there and its being worked on.

Yes, if you like having a constant FPS of 6.

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Re: Red Alert: A Path Beyond Update: Gap Generator + Special Effects [message #205579 is a reply to message #205448]

Mon, 26 June 2006 17:30

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Its a cool effect and everything but i think it could ruin a map. Like if i really like the map but i hate the gap generator, i woulnt play the map.

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Re: Red Alert: A Path Beyond Update: Gap Generator + Special Effects [message #205597 is a reply to message #205519]

Mon, 26 June 2006 18:45

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YSLMuffins wrote on Mon, 26 June 2006 14:37

What's the hit performance wise?

I'm running everything on full, with 4xAA and 16xAF using RenD3D9. I also have some other settings turned on to increase image quality via the nvidia drivers(7900GT). So keep that in mind when judging the FPS.

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Re: Red Alert: A Path Beyond Update: Gap Generator + Special Effects [message #205605 is a reply to message #205448]

Mon, 26 June 2006 18:56

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Thats sweet. Could it be possible to make a map where cirtain parts of the map are foggy, and the rest isn't.

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Re: Red Alert: A Path Beyond Update: Gap Generator + Special Effects [message #205608 is a reply to message #205545]

Mon, 26 June 2006 19:11

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PointlessAmbler wrote on Mon, 26 June 2006 17:28

Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 26 June 2006 17:01

A fog effect in a central area? How was that impossible? You could do that with emitters if you had to.

As for speed, who cares, the mod is out there and its being worked on.

Yes, if you like having a constant FPS of 6.

yeah, you'll get that on a 400mhz packard bell.

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Mon, 26 June 2006 19:26

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Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 26 June 2006 05:18

Oh yes, how could we possible think that scriptzones that enable fog could exist! Oh magical man, please show us what else you can do with your fire stick and cloacking enabled on a model.

If you think scriptzones can have a spherical area of effect that moves with a vehicle, go ahead and try.

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Mon, 26 June 2006 19:59

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Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 26 June 2006 23:11

PointlessAmbler wrote on Mon, 26 June 2006 17:28

Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 26 June 2006 17:01

A fog effect in a central area? How was that impossible? You could do that with emitters if you had to.

As for speed, who cares, the mod is out there and its being worked on.

Yes, if you like having a constant FPS of 6.

yeah, you'll get that on a 400mhz packard bell.

I suggest using a computer that meets the minimum specifications for the game.

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Mon, 26 June 2006 20:42

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Renx wrote on Mon, 26 June 2006 22:59

Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 26 June 2006 23:11

PointlessAmbler wrote on Mon, 26 June 2006 17:28

Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 26 June 2006 17:01

A fog effect in a central area? How was that impossible? You could do that with emitters if you had to.

As for speed, who cares, the mod is out there and its being worked on.

Yes, if you like having a constant FPS of 6.

yeah, you'll get that on a 400mhz packard bell.

I suggest using a computer that meets the minimum specifications for the game.

Thats not my pc, it was sarcasm of what it would take to create lag from emitters.

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Mon, 26 June 2006 20:44

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NeoSaber wrote on Mon, 26 June 2006 22:26

Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 26 June 2006 05:18

Oh yes, how could we possible think that scriptzones that enable fog could exist! Oh magical man, please show us what else you can do with your fire stick and cloacking enabled on a model.

If you think scriptzones can have a spherical area of effect that moves with a vehicle, go ahead and try.

You dont make it spherical, you use aliased script zones to create the effect.

Move your box out a distance, create an axis point of zero on your proxy box, and just 360 clones all around, done. It doesnt require "brining down" the walls of basic renegade modding.

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Re: Red Alert: A Path Beyond Update: Gap Generator + Special Effects [message #205671 is a reply to message #205448]

Tue, 27 June 2006 00:14

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It's a cool effect, but I think it's pretty ugly-looking.

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Re: Red Alert: A Path Beyond Update: Gap Generator + Special Effects [message #205672 is a reply to message #205448]

Tue, 27 June 2006 00:14

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I don't think you get it. The mobile version of the effect has it centered around a vehicle that moves. And this effect is much nicer and runs better than that 'billions of emitters' idea you seem to think is so great.

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Tue, 27 June 2006 02:06

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Oblivion165 wrote on Mon, 26 June 2006 05:18

Oh yes, how could we possible think that scriptzones that enable fog could exist! Oh magical man, please show us what else you can do with your fire stick and cloacking enabled on a model.

The V2 should of been using the model replace since day one.

oh and Gif Video = No

While I'm sure you're the king of Renegade modding and can make moving script zones and adjust the fog in real-time before that feature is even in the engine or scripts.dll or bhs.dll addons, let me tell you that-- well you can't. Sorry.

Unless the whole part about hacking in the adjustable fog was all in my imagination

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Also, yeah, Gif Video might load slow if you're on a 28.8k line.

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